oh haha, for the record- I have nothing against Brad P, he was a significant contributor to the first 1/3 of my j3glllopment. big time. I'm not just being politically correct, I sucked at this stuff.

Scotty and I do some of that stuff, and nearly everyone I know that is good with chicks (to some degree does that stuff... not pickup guys... just friends), BradP, David D., etc. def. doesn't have a patent on it obviously. I see what you are saying, there's def. parts/techniques from the PU community that I use.

i will say though-- it takes different meaning though, today its to screen the girl.. rather than "I hope she likes this [technique], I hope she laughs at this."
ironically, not that it matters too much-- these certain techniques fit Scotty and I well, we look really scary sometimes and it counterbalances stuff well.. me anyway
we do it in a masculine way though, rather than I'm super harmless lemme be your gay friend... which ive seen more times than I can remember

Scotty does the hand thing and wont let ago of girls hand... for 5 minutes.. when im out all do the spin thing and pick the girl up and carry her away.. its those techniques 'on steroids' as people say
the GAP story is one that ive always told, a true story from highschool, i generally hold off on this stuff until the girl is screened. a lot of the stuff I did when I was part of the community at-large "worked" it was just coming from the wrong place 'i hope she likes me'.. if that makes sense

good question btw

R - you actually raise a good issue here, I'll talk about it more.

The main thing that sets what I do apart from PUA is-

off the top of my head-

1) Looks, Style, Social Freedom = Pussy [instead of] Game = pussy
2) Numbers game [instead of] Long Interactions
3) Sexually Available v. Sexually Unavailable girls [instead of] Every girl is always available, if you don't get them you did something wrong
4) Screening vs. Funny Man/Hope She Likes Me
5) Touch to screen vs. Time your kino (so she likes it)
6) The girl already likes you if you touch her and she stays vs. Create Attraction
7) Call the girl who likes you [instead of] spend weeks sending text messages
Simple shit [instead of] there's a complicated explanation to female behavior and a technique to counterbalance it
9) Get Laid vs. Pick up girls

(I got the word PUA video in here for the google results)

What isn't mentioned in here is the "techniques," it's because the actually techniques (just as words) are pretty insignificant. The girl in the first video (and this girl in this one for the most part) I could have talked about the weather and they would have been excited. I use the techniques that are part of my persona (grab girls bicep, bodyguard).. but they are "a part" of me. They aren't a foreign stories like, "I saw the craziest thing! This cat looks like you!" or some sort of I hope you like me 'cold read'. If I was into magic/being a real psychic- I'd do cold read.

So if my technique "works"... it works because of my looks, style, social freedom (confidence) not because of the technique "created" attraction. You obviously know all this, just wanted to explain for the other guys.

I'm def. not against routines/pickup lines, but I encourage guys to create their own based on their life experience. They only need 1 or 2. These routines are meant to screen and show what you're about, no necessarily to make the girl laugh/like you. The screening happens from touching... even just a little bit.. very quickly.

Now when it all comes together, the lesser aggressive (these basic approaches) can look like "high level PUA". Getting a phone number can only "look" so good. The main thing that matters, in my opinion, is how solid the number is and how much the girl wants me to call her... that is evidence of a DTF girl if there was some physical dialogue.

hope that makes sense.

I need to do a discussion on this because the "phone numbers" look very "high level PUA" and perhaps they sorta are but that's basically what these look like if a guy isn't trying to bounce a girl

Thanks bro- it's really basic. When my goal is to simple get a solid number and I see that the girl is into me (and i cant take her anywhere, logistics)... I'm out ASAP.
It's not my style to suggest plans, or talk about soft plans/invites. It's not good or bad, I just don't do it.
80% of the girls that take ## from tell me "i'm surprised you called me, I never thought I'd see you again." and that tells me that are pretty excited.
Scotty does though, he tells the girl whats up and where he wants her later that day, I think he does anyway.