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Although I look it- I'm not actually Black.
18 Months ago when I started GoodLookingLoser.com I never wanted to speak on topics that I didn't have plenty real, insider experience with and enter "I-know-everything-but-have-never-done-any-of-it-but-trust-me-I-have-an-eBook" status.
However, it seems like once every 12.5 days or so a Black person asks me for advice and if I have specific recommendations.
(the undertone is- how can I get White, Asian, Latina, etc. girls?)
I do have suggestions.
I have plenty of friends that are Black, some of them score with a fair amount of with non-Black chicks.
A lot of them don't.
I've thought about what separates the two groups can that is where my perspective/suggestions comes from.
Some things are obvious, other things I'm still thinking about and might have to discuss with a couple of them.
The 4 Black kids that I will refer to- have both casually slept with and been in committed relationship with White girls.
There's a few others that I've recently become friends with on the West Coast, but I haven't known them for too long so I'm not going to conclude anything just yet.
I'll talk minorities more in the future, these suggestions are unique to Black people however. Some of these can be considered 'techniques'.
While we're not big on techniques, perhaps "Black People" are the exception- they can benefit enormously by presenting themselves in a certain way.
For those of you that wet your little diaper when 'race' is brought up, know that I'm bi-racial and therefore can't be racist according to your standards. Besides, I have more Black friends than you. (ha.ha.)
The "normal guys" of any skin color all present themselves in a stereotypical, normal, follower manner.
Most White people look like nerdy office people, Most Asians look like computer programers, Most Latinos dress like Black People from 10 years ago, etc.
It's not unique to Black people.
"Normal" looking people of all races are pretty much invisible to Hot Girls.
In fact- I feel that a higher percentage of Black guys go outside the norm and dress well.
They want to look good.
Which, for starters, is what I encourage you to do.
(Look good- not just "stand out")
All 4 of my Black friends that hook up with attractive girls all have status or appear like they do.
Before I tell you what they do/how they present themselves, I WANT YOU TO KNOW-
These guys ALL do the WELL-DRESSED GQ STYLE.
No poor yung thug/lil ghetto, clothes that are 3 sizes too big or not-yet-famous rapper look.
From the way I just presented these guys, you might think-
"Holy shit, those guys have REAL status, I don't have that, I'm just a sitting here in this apartment."
No, I just made you think they do.
While it is true that they "are" all those things, the fact of the matter is- only ONE of the them (#2) is a legit super athlete that plays his sport at the highest level.
And Even still- he is currently an NFL free agent and no chick (even in the state of Florida) would recognize him or has even heard of him.
The pro-basketball player isn't in the NBA. He's in a league below the NBA D-League.
(that's why he was doing adult stuff in LA in the off-season)
The pro-MMA guy was good locally but hasn't won a fight at a more competitive level.
The guy from Harvard Law- well... nobody would look at him and know his specific accomplishments.
So lets not think not confuse these examples for Johnnie Cochran, Adrian Peterson, Kobe Bryant or Anderson Silva.
No one knows or recognizes these guys.
In fact, I get mistook for a pro-athlete/MMA fighter AS MUCH OR MORE than they. 2 of them will tell you that.
Yet, while ALL these guys were super popular in college and scored with all types of girls- they continue to do so after college in WHATEVER city they are in.
They DEFINITELY PLAY UP THEIR STATUS.
The way I presented these guys to you (high-status... OMG) is the SAME WAY they present themselves to women.
But not in the 'try hard' way (that seems to be reserved for Hollywood-wanna be White boys).
These guys seemingly have really good finesse with how they communicate their status.
Here's some examples-
Shortly after saying "Hi" and introducing himself- he will ask girls where [in New York City] they live, then he mentions lives at the [well-known upscale apartments] on the Upper East Side because it's near where he works. He also mentions that he just finished Law school.
Girls (certainly the interested ones) immediately ask where he works and where he went to Law School.
a: Super prestigious firm, Harvard Law.
Girls, especially the young-professional White girls that he is interested in, are impressed.
~ While this suggests he is more of a nice "boyfriend" candidate, I will discuss that shortly.
Black Football Player
After introducing him and exchanging names, he'll ask what the girl does for work/school.
Because his 6-3 250lbs, girls will ask him back and assume he's an athlete.
He answers that he's "A-List an actor in Hollywood".
Every girl is immediately taken back by this.
(yeah- every time)
He keeps the joke up for a little while, tries to make the girl believe him and then explains that he's going to get into acting after he's done with football.
He'll then tell the girl that he's in the NFL and plays for the ________.
He tells me this works great for him because girls just aren't used to a Black guy presenting himself with a sense of humor (and obviously status).
He immediately grabs the girl by the hand and tells her to "help him" get up to the bar. (my idea)
~ Again, while this seems "playful" or "funny man," I'm going to talk about that shortly.
Black Basketball Player
Unlike the other guys, this guy seems to only to like "thick-ass white girls".
These girls aren't the hard-to-get, high-status platinum blondes.
A lot of these girls generally go for Black guys in the first place.
He knows this and moves SUPER FAST. Smiling the an entire time.
(I mean, this guy got me to do porno after I just met him... damn)
He does a bunch of different things to engage girls but he usually grabs their arms and say "don't beat me up" or one of those 'fun' things.
After the joke subsides, he'll ask the girl what she does if she hasn't asked him already.
When she asks, he says, "Basketball... Hopefully the Lakers."
(same thing he told me)
Girls/people immediately think he's an NBA player or a top college player. After all, he's 6-7 265lbs. (bigger than LeBron)
Most girls have no idea about who's a pro athlete at the highest level and who isn't. "Lakers" is good enough for them.
To them, he's an NBA player and a fun guy.
(sometimes he tells girls that he's not going to rob them)
He'll immediately take them to "show them how to dance" and feeds them compliments while touching them more and more.
He fucks about 50 girls a year.
~ Again while this seems really "nice guy," I'll clear that up later.
Black MMA Guy
This cat does the "Well-Dressed" GQ, but he also does/did the Affliction/Tapout look.
In his case, it fits exactly what he does.
While not a pro athlete in a major sport, this guy has one advantage-
He's a mixed race (appears 75% Black) and is really good looking.
He looks like Shane Battier, but a better looking version.
(actually Shane Battier is good looking)
White girls say that he's "good looking," if you are a good looking Black guy take note of what "Rian" does.
Since he's good looking and has excellent social skills, he doesn't particularly do anything special when he engages girls, mostly "basic guy" game.
When the question comes up of "what he does" he tells girls that he's "training for a fight".
Most girls are pretty familiar with MMA or they don't think he's a boxer or something, they think it's cool.
He starts talking about how his Mom is worried that he's going to get his face bashed in and she'd rather that he play the piano or stop eating and be a model.
Interested girls will generally jump on this in one of two ways-
In both cases, he says "thank you" and tell them they they are attractive too.
(he talks to the hottest girls possible)
After that- he takes them somewhere to sit down and talk.
~ While that might not anything other than 'nice', I'll get to that topic in a second.
As you may have noticed...
All these guys flash/play up their status ASAP but in a smooth way.
They don't WAIT for girls to ask them 'who they are' or 'what they do' nor do they spit out their accomplishments like a try hard.
They immediately lead the conversation to the topic, it seems natural.
Like the Football Player says, "I'm Black, I need to stand out."
All these guys know what they are doing and the last thing they bitch about is how they "want to be themselves".
They play to win. That's who they are.
What If I'm Black/Any Race and Don't Have No Status?
If you don't have any sort of established legit status, it doesn't totally matter.
You should be working on your life, in general, and slowly separating yourself from the boring, undersexed, frustrated norm.
But that often is good enough.
As long as you talk/communicate your high-status ambitions and why you win at life.
Black Lawyer Guy has been talking about how he was going to Harvard (or Yale/UPenn) Law for years. (it had a similar effect as it does now)
Black Football Guy was always talking about acting and play pro sports.
Black Basketball Guy- same thing (minus the acting).
Black MMA Guy was always talking about how he wanted to be a MMA Fighter, was training for it and how his Mom didn't approve- long before he ever competed.
They have ALWAYS looked the part, even if it wasn't on their resume.
Status, Status, Status- these guys get it.
While on occasion, they might come off as a "Black Douchebag" (said no one ever) and lose a girl that was otherwise interested, they are ALWAYS going to make it clear they the AREN'T the average Black guy/Any race guy.
As you probably noticed (or when I pointed it out to you 4 times in red) the techniques these guys use seem to be sort of "nice guy," "boyfriend material" or "funny man" in comparison to the stuff I generally advocate.
Though I never want to get into analyzing "words", I clear up any confusion-
Don't confuse being POLITE with being a "pussy," "funny man," or "nice guy".
What you look like, your clothing, your vibe and how you carry yourself plays WAY MORE of a factor (than what words you say) into how you are profiled and if you look like a edgy/bad ass/player or a nice guy/boyfriend material/bitch boy.
Just by stereotype-
Black guys ARE NOT perceived as Nice Guys, Boyfriend Material, Pussy Cuckolds.
They just aren't.
You have to look and come off REALLY SOFT to make a total "nice guy" first impression if you are Black.
A lot of legitimately thoughtful and nice Black guys get this very, very frustrated by this.
But keep in mind ALL RACES are stereotyped, just most races are stereotyped as "nice," on the opposite end of the continuum.
I suggest Black guys use this TO THEIR ADVANTAGE and be SUPER NICE (POLITE), at least initially.
Scotty is a good example.
He's "edgier" looking than most Black guys. He has tattoos on his fucking face. He is SUPER POLITE.
Verbally, he never stops being polite. Physically, however, he isn't.
He bags tons of chicks. And Quickly.
Don't worry- you won't be 'losing' too many girls because they are DTF and you come off a some "Black Nice Guy".
It might happen, it probably does to me sometimes.
(never to Scotty)
But you're still Black, as long as you aren't overweight- girls will assume you are good in bed and have good equipment. (more on that later)
There are some beneficial stereotypes applied to Black guys.
I have to think about it some more, but a lot of the "rules" or mindsets that I push here- LOOK EDGY, BE EDGY, TOUCH GIRLS ASAP, etc. aren't actually going to help Black guys.
At the end of the day though-
...is still the name of the name.
You've thought about it long enough.
Chris just how important do you view muscle mass in terms of overall success? I don't think you've ever gamed as a toothpick but surely you know or know of guys who have. How important is it, in general? I feel like even girls that aren't...
Chris just how important do you view muscle mass in terms of overall success? I don't think you've ever gamed as a toothpick but surely you know or know of guys who have. How important is it, in general? I feel like even girls that aren't "into" jocks or muscles might be turned off by a skinny guy who tried to come off as alpha
Sure, 'opposite' in what regard though?
specifically- what is the title/topic
i'm due to interview him when he gets back from his vacation
I agree and the black guys I reference would overwhelmingly agree. There's such a issue with "selling out" among black guys that prevents a lot of them from improving. I'll talk more about these guys later, they have as many white/other friends...
I agree and the black guys I reference would overwhelmingly agree. There's such a issue with "selling out" among black guys that prevents a lot of them from improving. I'll talk more about these guys later, they have as many white/other friends as black. Especially the athletes
I have started reading you stuff recently and I am very impressed by your approach. But I am very lost after I red this article. You say all the stuff you advocate e.g. being aggressive, edgy, and so on will not work for black guys....
I have started reading you stuff recently and I am very impressed by your approach. But I am very lost after I red this article. You say all the stuff you advocate e.g. being aggressive, edgy, and so on will not work for black guys. What will then ? could clarify more please?
"How white guys can increase their chances with black chicks". So into black chicks.
I live in HB, so unfortunately there's none around, only surf bettys (which is still totally awesome BTW and there will be thousands of them this week during...
"How white guys can increase their chances with black chicks". So into black chicks.
I live in HB, so unfortunately there's none around, only surf bettys (which is still totally awesome BTW and there will be thousands of them this week during the US Open).
GGL, you make a very good point. You are right though, some of the things you say might not work if you are black when approaching chicks. To keep it simple, it's all about status. High Football players - approached by girls. College Black frat...
GGL, you make a very good point. You are right though, some of the things you say might not work if you are black when approaching chicks. To keep it simple, it's all about status. High Football players - approached by girls. College Black frat kid - not so much. Within the black community we called non black girls who are attracted to black man "jungle fever" It's all about approaching the girls who have the fever. Here's a list to know if she has the fever. 1) curly perm hair 2) bubble butts or thick ( white guys don't like that, black guys do) Thank GLL 3) hoop earrings 4) goes to black/spanish club or have black lots of black friends in her social circles 5) tall girls( most whites guy don't really like to date girls who are tall leaving them insecure) 6) if she likes black television shows and masculine gangster music (not including Usher or pop artist) on her facebook 7) weed smoker ( America's reason that they illegalize weed was to prevent white girls from hanging out with the Jazz musician). I can go deep into this
I didn't think the "Get Hung" guide would have girls eyeing my bulge. It did.
I didn't think that your exercise and diet advice would have girls checking me out. It did.
I DEFINITELY didn't think that your hair-loss prevention would fix my hairline. Not in a billion years. It mother fucking did. You saved me a crazy amount of time, a ton of money, unnecessary pain, and destroyed my #1 source of anxiety. DESTROYED IT.
Kratom is next!
To anyone reading this, follow through, read this material, APPLY this material, and enjoy life.
Thanks again Chris, life would suck without you.
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