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One of the very first models of seduction, 'Mystery Method', insisted that you need to "build" both attraction and comfort to "seduce" a women.
The entire process will take an average of 7 hours.
"If you go out at 10pm, meet a girl at 1am - it will be at 8am, after 420 minutes (7 hours) of building attraction, comfort, thumb wrestling, story telling and back turning, that your penis will penetrate her vagina."
You don't even have to be sexually experienced or even socially competent to know that no such "rule" exists.
Giving Mystery the benefit of the doubt that he is actually drawing this from his experience and has slept with some girls, perhaps he wasn't suggesting that it HAD to be 7 hours but rather that was how long it would usually take him.
In that case, it shows that PUA/seduction actually moves SLOWER than normal guys do. Normal (non-PUA geek) guys in the top 10% generally take girls home from bars in 2 or 3 hours every night of the week.
What in the world could you talking about for 7 hours anyway?
One key thing I learned from Scotty was (assuming the girl was sexually available and not JUST looking for a boyfriend)-
More significantly-
When he told me this back in the Summer of 2008, it basically went in one ear and out the other- the concept seemed to oppose the necessity of "attraction, comfort, text game, dates, timed escalation, etc."
Certainly I needed a period of time to "work on" the girl, even if she liked me and wanted to have sex with me.
7 hours seemed to closer to realistic, even though I had tagged some attractive girls within about 3 hours.
I obviously had been listening to too much PUA bullshit.
With experience and some sanity, less of a reliance on canned lines and "structure" to my interactions, I progressively got better with women. I started getting more girls, hotter girls and getting them quicker.
When I realized that screening girls by touching them quickly could separate the girls that were DTF and the ones there were not- there was basically no need to "work on" girls or any need to analyze anything anymore.
The only thing to possibly work on was "getting quicker".
I basically just wanted to know that I could go out 2 nights a week and probably Get Laid one or both nights.
When I lived at N. Kings Rd. in Los Angeles in early 2009 - walking distance from 2 super popular places, including my favorite place ever- Skybar; I had the chance to pull this off, over and over and over. After living there for about 8.5 months, I moved to Santa Monica Beach where I would do the exact same thing during the day. By that time, late Hollywood nights weren't my thing.
As I started moving faster with girls my approach didn't actually change.
The goal/game plan was the exact same.
Stop an attractive girl, touch her and if she stayed around- I was going to try and take her back to my place under the pretense of "Hey I have to be somewhere at __o'clock, but lets chill for an hour or so. Tell you what- I'll make you a sugar-free drink that's amazing." (or something like that).
If they said anything other than "No." I would grab their hand and start walking to my place which was never more than about 6-7 minutes away ON FOOT.
The only thing that changed was how fast I was EXECUTING the game plan.
Although "trying to move fast" helped my mindset somewhat, it was the experience of seeing the same predictable responses for the past 2-3 years that made me more secure with the interactions- and able to move faster.
To me- all I was doing was profiling DTF chicks quicker and speeding up the process that was probably going to happen anyway, so long as they remained sexually available. In fact, arguably, I "lost" less girls that might have flaked had I just taken their number. A lot of girls are into the moment but get "wet feet" when deciding whether or not to call back a guy that clearly wants them for sex.
It wasn't until the end of 2012 that I realized something.
There have been several comments on the Youtube videos pointing out that some of the girls I aggressively approached (and successfully left with) weren't totally "comfortable"-
It turns out that the Youtube PUAs were right, these girls aren't super comfortable.
To tell you the truth, it didn't even occur to me that girls weren't comfortable.
Nor did it matter or stop them from leaving to chill with me.
I'm looking for girls that are DTF, not looking for girls that require "comfort".
The moral of the story is-
Women don't have to completely comfortable to have sex with you very quickly.
They just need to be excited.
If they are shy, chances are, they won't express this excitement too much.
Besides- there only so much "comfort" you can build in 5 minutes anyway.
The good news is-
You don't need that much.
I don't have 7 hours to "seduce" a girl, I literally don't have enough material to last 7 hours. Chances are, if you nail them in 7 hours you probably could have done it faster.
Next time you are wondering if the girl is "comfortable" enough, try and put her in your car or make out with her. Don't assume that she "needs comfort," like some sort of abused puppy, don't assume anything.
Don't ask for or wait for obvious signs saying, "Okay, now it's time to put me in your car, I'm comfortable and attracted enough to you. I'm willing to have your insert your penis in my vagina."
You will be waiting for weeks.
Or in my case, pre-2005, for months.
These days, the simple fact that a girl speaks to me after I've touched her is the green light to start making preparations to take that pussy home. Sometimes- it's exactly what she wanted too.
Remember- the goal is Get Laid.
It took me a while to realize what this meant and behave based on the goal.
You might have to think about it a little bit.
The is goal not to "build comfort" "tell stories" "make her laugh" "make her like you" "be seductive" etc.
All the stuff may or may not happen the process, but it shouldn't be your focus.
For more information on this specific topic check out- "Mr. Pussy Inspector vs. Mr. Funny Man"
HAHA reminds me of myself too:
When I was younger and fucked up by PUA shit I also thought I had to "work" a lot on them. My mindset was "I have to BUILD attraction" instead of "I have to RECOGNIZE AND ACT ON attraction." I wasted so much time,...
HAHA reminds me of myself too:
When I was younger and fucked up by PUA shit I also thought I had to "work" a lot on them. My mindset was "I have to BUILD attraction" instead of "I have to RECOGNIZE AND ACT ON attraction." I wasted so much time, and missed so many opportunities back then...
You're so right: Comfortable is BORING. Girls actually LIKE it to be a little uncomfortable. Makes their heart beat. And they juices flow.
And now I have fucked way too many girls within 2 / 10 / 60 minutes, to ever believe in that stupid 7-hour rule again.
0-hour-rule FTW!
Amen brother! I personally like to make a girl comfortable talking to me at least, i don't think you need like deep comfort or anything like that. Only thing I have to do to make it exciting is start touching and talking more sexual and...
Amen brother! I personally like to make a girl comfortable talking to me at least, i don't think you need like deep comfort or anything like that. Only thing I have to do to make it exciting is start touching and talking more sexual and flirtatious.
If she is comfortable talking to you and doesn't leave, thats the first part-1st check mark!
If she is comfortable with you being flirtatious, sexual, and touching her, and she doesn't freak out-2nd check mark!
If she is available and comfortable going with you somewhere private-3rd check mark!
All 3 check marks= Win!
All it takes from 5min-4hrs. Either way all less than 7 hours.
Keep up that swag playa.
One thing that struck me about those two videos in particular is that:
If you take out the physical contact and leave just your conversation with her, like it was a basic open, chat and get her number, it would probably not have resulted in...
One thing that struck me about those two videos in particular is that:
If you take out the physical contact and leave just your conversation with her, like it was a basic open, chat and get her number, it would probably not have resulted in much. She wasn't saying much and the conversation was stilted and awkward. Most guys would've ejected, and if they did a number she probably would have flaked. But because of the physical dialogue, she was aroused and ready to go at that moment.
Very good post. This attidute is huge mindshift. From "I have to be with her/talk/date her for couple of hours or meet her at 2/3/4/5 dates before she let me inside her pants" to I'm gonna fuck her within 1/2 hours. I don't like this "mindset"...
Very good post. This attidute is huge mindshift. From "I have to be with her/talk/date her for couple of hours or meet her at 2/3/4/5 dates before she let me inside her pants" to I'm gonna fuck her within 1/2 hours. I don't like this "mindset" thing, but this is what we are supposed to think.
Fucking amazing article! It has further cleared my ideas about hitting on girls, screening them and getting laid quickly with them. Definitely one of your best articles. Now I can see that it is really simple and easy to get laid with any hot...
Fucking amazing article! It has further cleared my ideas about hitting on girls, screening them and getting laid quickly with them. Definitely one of your best articles. Now I can see that it is really simple and easy to get laid with any hot girl (when they are sexually available), as long as you are, of course, maximizing constantly your looks, style, social freedom, etc. It's not complicated at all, as PUAs, geeks and normal average guys point out. And, of course, you don't need to create comfort in the girl, because back into my experience, I remember having gotten laid with many hot chicks within half hour or even less in their houses because they were DTF and excited, even though some of them weren't comfortable which just doesn't matter at all - what only matters is that they must be DTF and excited (either expressively, or not so expressively if she is shy).
Fucking amazing article! It has further cleared my ideas about hitting on girls, screening them and getting laid quickly with them. Definitely one of your best articles. Now I can see that it is really simple and easy to get laid with any hot...
Fucking amazing article! It has further cleared my ideas about hitting on girls, screening them and getting laid quickly with them. Definitely one of your best articles. Now I can see that it is really simple and easy to get laid with any hot girl (when they are sexually available), even within a very short period time (from less than 1 minute to half an hour, depending especially on logistics), as long as you are, of course, maximizing constantly your looks, style, social freedom, etc. Itâs not complicated at all, as PUAs, geeks and normal average guys point out. And, of course, you donât need to create comfort in the girl, because back into my experience, I remember having gotten laid with many hot chicks within half hour or even less in their houses because they were DTF and excited, even though some of them werenât comfortable which just doesnât matter at all â what only matters is that they must be DTF and excited (either expressively, or not so expressively if she is shy).
This is truth from the mountain! And it mirrors my experience in fiery seductions.
Whenever I went too much into comfort, it got slowed down and less energetic - albeit enjoyable as well.
But it's certainly better to err on the side of too much...
This is truth from the mountain! And it mirrors my experience in fiery seductions.
Whenever I went too much into comfort, it got slowed down and less energetic - albeit enjoyable as well.
But it's certainly better to err on the side of too much energy, than being overly timidâ¦
Hey Chris, very good article. I was just wondering, does this technique work as well with the girls in Asian countries like Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam just to name a few? I mean fairly considering the fact that there's a huge cultural barrier...
Hey Chris, very good article. I was just wondering, does this technique work as well with the girls in Asian countries like Thailand, Philippines, Vietnam just to name a few? I mean fairly considering the fact that there's a huge cultural barrier and most women are conservative. Hope to get a reply from you soon. Thanks!
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