All contents herein is subject to our General Disclaimer and Medical Disclaimer.
This is an opinion website that offers information of a general nature and none of the opinions should be construed as advice. Nothing contained within the site is the advice, opinion or otherwise the view of any host, owner, server or other provider of services to Good Looking Loser. Nothing stated shall be construed to serve as a replacement for competent advice from professionals.
Affiliate Disclosure: At absolutely no expense to you, if you make a purchase, we may receive commissions from some links on this website. That is how our community supports itself. I don't recommend anything that I have not used personally or believe in. Thanks!
I'm excited to open this new chapter to Good Looking Loser.
It'll move slowly until I get to work on it full-time but it will be enough to really help guys who want to hear about "The Scene".
For some guys - this particular discussion will be TOTALLY NEW insight to how organized nightlife works.
I highly encourage to you RESERVE JUDGMENT about whatever you know or have heard about how nightlife works.
It's probably different than you think. It is different than what I thought.
It's great and just about the most exciting period of my entire life.
(Full time: Late 2009 - Early 2011)
This is where you land the HOTTEST GIRLS - so listen up - if that's what you signed up for.
While this is representative to the Hollywood/Los Angeles Party Scene - I feel in can to most cities in the United States of America.
(with the exception of Las Vegas where the clubs are conveniently in the hotels)
If you didn't know - the clubs close at 2 am in Los Angeles... and the after-parties begin.
This is how it works in the Los Angeles Club Scene.
What is "Party Game"?
You have probably heard of the term "Club Game".
I will discuss that concept and it's primary problem below.
We call it "Party Game" and not Club Game.
There are two reasons for this -
The "game" doesn't even happen at the club.
It happens at the party.
The sex happens at the party too.
(or during pre/post-party hours)
Unless you are tight with a legitimate ~mid-level nightclub promoter - try to forget just about everything you thought you knew about "Club Game" and popular organized nightlife aka "The Scene".
If your source for "Club Game" doesn't discuss BEFORE AND AFTER PARTIES -- disregard everything you read - an Internet Marketer wrote it.
"A Nest In the Hills"
The Party Scene in a Nutshell
In short, this is how it works-
(Ready Losers?)
* Fun Fact: Party Scene regulars and Hollywood Power Players usually arrive between 90 minutes after the club has opened or 90 minutes before the club closes.
Fun Fact: For more exclusive parties - security and valet parking arrives just before this time.
The entire night was ALREADY PLANNED from the start.
Most guys and girls ALREADY KNOW who they were going to have sex or try to hook up with.
(unless stupid girly drama ensues)
The actual "Clubbing" part is a sideshow, an appetizer, foreplay - to the AFTER-PARTY where all the Red Bull, Grey Goose and bodily fluids are spilled.
That's why we don't call it "CLUB GAME".
The club has virtually nothing to do with anything.
Got it?
My Experience In "The Scene"
I have significantly more experience with "Party Game" than picking up girls with the traditional "cold approach" that most guys are familiar with.
The majority of girls I've slept with are from the "The Scene".
While I have picked up top-tier girls via cold approach - the vast majority of them came from the Hollywood Party Scene.
The majority of the SUPER HOT GIRLS I've slept with were specifically from the Hollywood Hills Party Scene.
In fact, the very first cold approaches we recorded in for Good Looking Loser YouTube was the first time I had done a significant amount cold approaching since Early 2010. Cold approach was only my primary stream of pussy in 2008-2009.
Since then, however, traditional cold approach has been only a small supplement to an overall lifestyle - when I am single.
There's a reason for that-
In nearly every way, what I call "Party Game" is better, more efficient, more productive and gets you MORE and HOTTER girls.
Had I known about how to get started with "Party Game" I don't think I would have done any traditional pick up whatsoever.
Admittedly, what I learned, experienced and the results (pussy) I got from my success/failures at traditional cold approach helped build my social fundamentals, got me connected and immediate MASSIVE success in The Scene.
We wouldn't have a blog if not for cold approach either.
Like most guys, the majority of guys in the Party Scene, don't approach women they don't know. They just have decent social skills and drunk guys around them 3 or 4 nights a week.
If you can build your social freedom and get connected in The Popular Scene - you'll never be without options.
Even just a little "Killer Instinct" goes a long way. A lot of the girls are ALREADY interested.
(an active hung penis will also get you attention)
If nothing else, you'll be partying with hot girls on the regular.
It's amazing for your "Sense of Entitlement".
Just for the record-
I've gone to some super exclusive parties in Los Angeles.
I've gotten into some of the hardest doors and been to some invite-only parties.
This IS NOT to suggest that the majority of my "Party Time" was spent as an insider to some private celebrity scene - it definitely wasn't.
When you get connected in the Los Angeles Party Scene, it's possible to go to hot parties. It seemed CrAzY at first - but it wasn't after a little while. After all, I live(d) the Hollywood Party Scene neighborhood.
The Scene in Los Angeles becomes a small world after 6 months of near daily partying - you see the same faces, hit the same parties and eventually find your way to the more exclusive opportunities if you can regularly bring pretty girls with you and get to know a few names.
(more on this later)
The majority of my experience comes from a Scene which I feel the normal person can access.
I will help you do so.
"Club Game" Doesn't Exist
(Clubs ARE NOT Ideal Venues to 'Cold Approach' Women)
Believe it or not, nightclubs (popular scene, dance, event, etc.) are not the ideal place to pick up woman.
In fact - they are arguably THE VERY WORST.
Very few people actually know this, including the vast majority of self-proclaimed authorities on the subject.
There's several reasons for this-
AND THE PRIMARY REASON WHY "CLUB GAME" SUCKS-
Unlike the bar scene - few very girls will ditch their group of friends to fuck a "club guy" they just met.
Girls don't take the "club guy" very seriously. He's probably a creeper and an outsider.
In most cases, getting laid the same night via nightclub cold approach requires an impromptu after-party where your group of friends and her group of friends decide to meet up at a convenient destination.
Certainly possible, both Scotty and I are in the double-digits with this type nightclub cold approach dynamic, but it's a lot of work and a TON of factors outside your control that can easily bring your night to an end.
(I'm pretty sure Scotty has had more sex IN THE CLUB (or outside in his old truck) than taking the girl home from a nightclub via cold approach)
There no guarantees via cold approach - even if you have a horny, drunk, TOTALLY DTF Club girl that is telling you how hot she thinks you are.
I've had it happen a fair amount of times and quickly learned that most DTF club girls are certainly not DTF club girls the following day.
In Los Angeles, these club bunnies are usually hungover and "detoxing" with their fruit juices and useless over the counter medications and talking about the limited amounts of the previous night that they actually remember.
And Of Course - posting photos on Facebook and Instagram in which they look hot.
I've had pretty good luck (as compared to my friends) with taking phone numbers at nightclubs but admittedly - the majority of the leads go absolutely nowhere.
The Real Scene - The In Crowd
Think about what I just explained above.
You are either part of The Scene or you are an outsider with an endlessly uphill battle.
As an outsider, there's very little reason to approach girls in clubs unless they are staring at you and you have place (e.g., after-party) to take them.
If you don't know ANYONE at the club and have no PRE/AFTER PARTY plans - you are better of in a bookstore or grocery store that is closer to your house and about to close. You are certainly better off at a bar.
Most guys go to nightclubs and indiscriminately approach unavailable girls that already have their night planned out.
Sometimes you'll get lucky, I have, but it's really an inefficient way to get action.
(I actually learned this quite fast - I found my way into The Scene right away)
You need to become part of the 'In Crowd' or at least have acquaintances that are.
Especially if you are interested in the most popular, highest-quality, otherwise-completely-intimidating Party Scene pussy in it's prime.
The Scene is where it's at.
As my friend Rich, who does REALLY WELL, noted -
"It's funny how I have these hot bitches chasing me, trying to hook up and stay over [at our party house], if I talked to them at Barnes & Noble (Bookstore) [like you and Scotty do], they'd probably ignore me..."
(not a direct quote)
So the key is -
GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT MATTER.
GET INVITED TO THE PARTIES.
(ideally - bringing some girls with you)
BECOME PART OF THE SCENE.
Then if you approach girls - it will go much better. (status)
Don't worry, you don't have to "know everyone" or become super popular.
You just need to know a mid (or upper)-level club promotor, have a few cool guys to party with and a decent spot to host before and after parties.
(VIP status can be fun and helpful - but it's very optional - and nothing that you spend money for)
Without that - forget about nightclubs.
Just completely forget it.
And that's where I'm cutting you off...
... we'll talk about it soon.
I'll tell you about some of the very best nights (early mornings) of my entire life.
It was a quite an era.
Hopefully I can remember some of it...
Yo Chris,
Do you think "Party Game" applies to the club scene all around the world or specifically to LA? I'm from europe and the situation here seems to differ quite a bit: Pre-parties usually just serve to get people drunk as fast as possible...
Yo Chris,
Do you think "Party Game" applies to the club scene all around the world or specifically to LA? I'm from europe and the situation here seems to differ quite a bit: Pre-parties usually just serve to get people drunk as fast as possible (pre-drinking) and after-parties in private homes don't really exist - the focus definitely lies on being in the club.
Would be interested on your or other experienced guys opinion!
There's not much more that I can teach you Amir -- I think some of this stuff might be able to open up some new opportunities -- def. hotter girls.. as good as it gets.
I'll go into detail on how the "party game" networking goes - but you have...
There's not much more that I can teach you Amir -- I think some of this stuff might be able to open up some new opportunities -- def. hotter girls.. as good as it gets.
I'll go into detail on how the "party game" networking goes - but you have the general idea. Put your name (and others) in the promo's, bring girls to the club, MAKE SURE your promo get credit/$ for them and come inside and tell him. Later on, he'll hook you up with free tables, drink tickets, after party spots, etc. Soon you'll be pre-partying with the Promo, his small group of guy friends and several hot girls.
id like to think and very much assume its going to be exactly like this everyone -- in some capacity.
Which country are you talking about?
After-party is where all the sex goes down in the US of A
Very true article. I used to have a much easier time getting hot women consistently in my late teens to early 20's mainly from big college parties. Now that I'm 28, live in a small town and most of my friends have moved away, I'm more limited...
Very true article. I used to have a much easier time getting hot women consistently in my late teens to early 20's mainly from big college parties. Now that I'm 28, live in a small town and most of my friends have moved away, I'm more limited to cold approaches and online dating. However, I am planning to move to a city of 1.2 million next month. Cold Approaches in a new city would probably be a good way to improve social circle too I would bet? I'm not a huge party guy anymore but meeting new friends through work and the gym would obviously be good too. Not to mention the quality of women increases drastically in a big city
Sounds like he might be talking about the UK. That's definitely the case here. I can only really speak for the uni scene but even right at the top of the social ladder it's pretty common for a girl to go home with a cold approach guy and after...
Sounds like he might be talking about the UK. That's definitely the case here. I can only really speak for the uni scene but even right at the top of the social ladder it's pretty common for a girl to go home with a cold approach guy and after parties aren't normally planned beforehand. Most of the time there isn't one. If people are sober enough at the club one MIGHT get planned there but still probably not (British binge drinking culture is a real thing). If it's a special event like someone's birthday there's a chance of a preplanned after party.
This article is a heavy punch in the face...but unfortunately everything what Chris describes here is so true. I saw it all, i faced it all - The 'Incrowd' is the most scariest thing you'll immediately face in a top-notch club. If you're an...
This article is a heavy punch in the face...but unfortunately everything what Chris describes here is so true. I saw it all, i faced it all - The 'Incrowd' is the most scariest thing you'll immediately face in a top-notch club. If you're an outsider, you have absolutely no chance at all -by outsider i mean...knowing nobody there, be a loner there-. If you wanna increase your chances, you have to socialize with people...and with people i mean the stuff (Bartender, Doormen, Dj, Garderobe...) you have to become a familiar face there. If the stuff knows you and hot girls see you chatting with them...then all of the sudden you are 'Special/Someone' and then you're pushing youself slowly into the 'incrowd' circle. You don't have to make the 'stuff' laugh or tell some funny jokes, just show some love...ask how their day is going, buy them a beer, ask for their name, tell your name, ask if their hungry... go to mcdonalds buy them hamburgers... you see what i mean.
Hello Chris,
I talked to a frend GLL guy regarding a lot of your theries.
I respect you big time and you really changed my perception a lot.
BUT - by all respect - you make one mistake in my eyes. You think all you experience applies to the rest...
Hello Chris,
I talked to a frend GLL guy regarding a lot of your theries.
I respect you big time and you really changed my perception a lot.
BUT - by all respect - you make one mistake in my eyes. You think all you experience applies to the rest of the world also.
In Germany for example, you will hardly find above scenario - you can find that in the elite circle's of the big metropolian centers (Munich, Frankfurt ...) but even there it is rare.
yours - chris
I didn't think the "Get Hung" guide would have girls eyeing my bulge. It did.
I didn't think that your exercise and diet advice would have girls checking me out. It did.
I DEFINITELY didn't think that your hair-loss prevention would fix my hairline. Not in a billion years. It mother fucking did. You saved me a crazy amount of time, a ton of money, unnecessary pain, and destroyed my #1 source of anxiety. DESTROYED IT.
Kratom is next!
To anyone reading this, follow through, read this material, APPLY this material, and enjoy life.
Thanks again Chris, life would suck without you.
Read More...
comment 26220 - "How to Pickup Girls if You Are Nervous... (Nervous Guy Game)"