TOPIC: Going Out Alone Post (What I'm Working On)

I literally can't WAIT for this to come out. It's not enough for me to go out.... I want to go out AND screen tons of girls

The ability to go out alone is really key to:

1. creating social circles from 0
2. getting laid when you want

These are at least 2 things I can think of that Chris can focus on! Both of which are great life changer for many people.
Most of us in our young years, will relocate a lot. If we learn how to create social circles from bars, it's a great addition to a successful life. I've personally done that my first 2-3 years in the US. My English sucked and I was very shy cause I didn't know the customs well. Yet, that didn't stop me to get into social groups and hang out with people. It was totally random, and I wasn't consistent. It's a great skill to have

Chris has already covered the part where he worked hard to get to the point where he KNEW he could get laid whenever he wanted. I personally don't want my sexual life to depend on any girl. So I'm working hard to get to that point where I even if I loose my FBs or girlfriend, I can still go out and hook up. It's such a great power to have as a man!

Being able to sell yourself to total strangers helps a lot in building your personality and laying the foundations to building your own business someday! Social skills are key to that!

Aye, I can't wait for this either. I assuredly am not capable of going out alone right now (not mentally, anyways).

ETA wrote: creating social circles from 0

Some material on building circles would be great as well. Every socially/financially successful guy I've ever met makes networking and making friends/connections look easy as fuck.

SmoothOperator wrote: In my case, I did 6 weeks of AA program. I did not do some of the harder drills until I am 100% comfortable. Shortly after I did the program I got a girlfriend. But now I am single again, I don't feel comfortable approaching. I still do, but not anywhere as aggressive as when I was doing the AA program. And of course I don't have the enthusiasm and motivation to do the whole program again like I did the first time.

Yes, you will lose a lot of magic, you did it and now you forget a little about it, and you lose enthusiasm. But at least, you know you did it in the past, and you can do it again. That kind of confidence is the only thing that lasts, and it is definitively worth it.
I lost a lot of aggression, discipline, etc. But when I see a chick I like and I think she'll respond well, I go ahead and talk to her. When I need to do something that I lack motivation or will, I just do it anyway with discipline.

Good Looking Loser wrote: keep this thread going - i love all the concerns/perspective you have, some of this stuff didn't really occur to me or i didnt plan to expand on.

TELL ME what you want covered

i have a whole outline written, but there's holes in some areas
this series has been tougher to write than I expected (more on that later)

I want to read what you have to say about it. Right know I only have a mental plan of getting some money, leaving my parent's house and renting somewhere close to a bars zone and making friends / social circle there.

the reason that guys don't go out alone isn't just 'approach anxiety' --- its deeper than that (don't feel part of the scene)

that is the hardest part for me to bridge

I once (many years ago) went alone to the mall, and I felt like shit. I didn't talk with anybody, I only talked with myself inside my head, and focused on me and my "destructive" toughts. I think I go out with friends because friends are fun and you can talk to them and not think about yourself.
Also, I think you can feel "safer". Maybe at a psychological level, being with a friend, if you get in a fight or any kind of trouble you have someone to back you up. I remember two times I would have gotten in a fight, but didn't because my friend came and say "lets go". You can't think really well if you don't feel safe.
And when you go out at night, you can take up to 5 hours. Its horrible be there for 5 hours without nobody to talk to! Yeah, you could talk with strangers, but it is more difficult (anxiety) and not so nice. Maybe we should consider going out alone as stepping out of our comfort zone?

The ability to go out alone is really key to:

1. creating social circles from 0
2. getting laid when you want

Yeah, I agree. I mean, I don't know because I don't go out alone, but it seems to be like it. When you go out alone you start making friends by talking to anyone, and you can get laid too (at least I think so because I saw GLL in the vids going alone and fucking)

Chris has already covered the part where he worked hard to get to the point where he KNEW he could get laid whenever he wanted. I personally don't want my sexual life to depend on any girl. So I'm working hard to get to that point where I even if I loose my FBs or girlfriend, I can still go out and hook up. It's such a great power to have as a man!

Yeah, I agree, I want that too!
Anyway, I have managed a "losers way" to have my sexual life not depending on any girl. I like sex and would love to fuck a pussy, but at the same time I don't mind if I can't. It's ok, it's great but at the same time I wouldn't die if I fail.

I think this way of thinking should apply to money as well. If you want money, you have to want it, but at the same time despise it a little bit. This way you don't get your hearth broken (and want to die) when you put money in a new business you don't know if it will work, and then fail miserably. Money is just a tool. Sure, you need a minimum to have a peace of mind and buy some food. Do you get the idea?

Being able to sell yourself to total strangers helps a lot in building your personality and laying the foundations to building your own business someday! Social skills are key to that!

Yeah, I agree in everything you say. I'd like to improve with fucking and at the same time with social skills.

Well, I've been thinking about this lately. But what's the difference? Because a lot of times that I go out with friends and I'm talking to a girl my friends move to another bar/club and when she asks where my friends are and I turn around to point to their location is like: "yep, I lost them again". And I don't care about that because I know that I can find them if I want. Sometimes If said girl wouldn't go anywhere I would look around the bar/club one more time to find new receptive girls. If not, I would head back outside and call my friends.

So I think the main problem is not the fact of being alone, is the thing of knowing that you can't go back to your "camp" in case that things don't go well. Who cares of being alone when you are obliterating a girl's pussy in the club?

Chorchie wrote: Well, I've been thinking about this lately. But what's the difference? Because a lot of times that I go out with friends and I'm talking to a girl my friends move to another bar/club and when she asks where my friends are and I turn around to point to their location is like: "yep, I lost them again". And I don't care about that because I know that I can find them if I want. Sometimes If said girl wouldn't go anywhere I would look around the bar/club one more time to find new receptive girls. If not, I would head back outside and call my friends.

So I think the main problem is not the fact of being alone, is the thing of knowing that you can't go back to your "camp" in case that things don't go well. Who cares of being alone when you are obliterating a girl's pussy in the club?

There is difference, and the point is you will feel "safe" if you know your friends are somewhere around, on other option if you go alone completely, no body that you know is near

If Chris can't make this, can someone of you who done it many times make good FR or post about it? It's better to hear tip from somebody who done it many times

moveon wrote:

Chorchie wrote: Well, I've been thinking about this lately. But what's the difference? Because a lot of times that I go out with friends and I'm talking to a girl my friends move to another bar/club and when she asks where my friends are and I turn around to point to their location is like: "yep, I lost them again". And I don't care about that because I know that I can find them if I want. Sometimes If said girl wouldn't go anywhere I would look around the bar/club one more time to find new receptive girls. If not, I would head back outside and call my friends.

So I think the main problem is not the fact of being alone, is the thing of knowing that you can't go back to your "camp" in case that things don't go well. Who cares of being alone when you are obliterating a girl's pussy in the club?

There is difference, and the point is you will feel "safe" if you know your friends are somewhere around, on other option if you go alone completely, no body that you know is near

If Chris can't make this, can someone of you who done it many times make good FR or post about it? It's better to hear tip from somebody who done it many times

The thing I think most of us fear is being there alone doing nothing. If I go out alone and I approach a girl I'm relaxed because at that moment I'm busy with her, the same if I go out alone and chat a bit with some people I know that I randomly encountered. But we all know that we can't be approaching nonstop even If we do it without eye contact/other signals or talking nonstop to known people/smalltalking with strangers. We know that If we go out alone sooner or later we will be there unoccupied: standing at the bar, standing between all the groups or if we are dancers dancing alone. It feels ankward, and Chris nailed it: "you don't feel part of the scene" when you are alone standing by yourself.

As someone who had extreme social anxiety for the vast majority of his life, I HONESTLY FUCKIN RATHER GO OUT ALONE than with a group of friends( unless they have the gll type of mindset). When going out with a group of friends two weeks ago, one of my friends always kept on cockblocking me even though I was having great social interactions, making bitches laugh, etc. I absolutely bitched him out and told him that I was never ever ever going out with him again. For someone that has gotten over most of his social anxiety and has the capability of vanishing the rest on phenibut and kratom, I need as many reps as possible. I decided that I would have been much better going out alone because I could have taken sets all the way to the end instead of them ending when my damn friend vigorously pulling me away. One set with a brazilian foreign phd student was going quite well (30-40 min convo) and my mutha fucka friend pulls me away after 6 times I told him that Id meet up with him later( i was staying at his place). This chick was 8/8.5 and while prolly out of my league, I kept on pushing, making her laugh, and I told myself no more being a pussy and you miss 100 percent of the shots you dont take. I had my hand around his leg how chris does it and she was very receptive to it. When she saw me outside the bar she gave off a very happy dancing vibe( throwing her hands up while sitting on the stool). FUCKN Friend that cockblocked me. While she was either looking for validation, someone to talk to, or quite possibly dtf, I am not happy not knowing the end outcome( rejection, phone number, hangout, lay, etc).

While at this point I use kratom and phenibut when going out, I would eventually like to get to the point when I do not need either. I just am not as witty or awesome socially when not taking either of them right now and I AS OF RIGHT NOW NEEDS MORE REPS AND IMPROVEMENT to get to where I wanna be. Alcohol kills what game I have and makes me antisocial.

Honestly, if ur a cool, fun, and respectable dude, u can go out alone and befriend other dudes at the bar that are cool and you can prowl together in the future( i have gotten some dudes phone numbers that want to hit up a college town in the future ). AT this point I think I would rather go out alone because the experience of getting cockblocked had me in roid rage.

2trippy wrote: As someone who had extreme social anxiety for the vast majority of his life, I HONESTLY FUCKIN RATHER GO OUT ALONE than with a group of friends( unless they have the gll type of mindset). When going out with a group of friends two weeks ago, one of my friends always kept on cockblocking me even though I was having great social interactions, making bitches laugh, etc. ...

That is another story, your friends suck. But you are right, if you get a chick and you came with your friends in the same car, its like you can't get out on your own.

Next to having high status in a club and getting girls thrown upon one's self, going out alone is my favorite.

Many of my personal wingmen have only caused me more trouble than help [except for TooHotForU from this forum].

When a man is alone, he can just screen like a mad man without being held back by others. Bro talk can wait for another time (such as after the game on a Sunday afternoon). I am not as hot as Chris; so I sometimes have to meet 25 girls until I find one that is dtf and one which can be pulled.

Also, I am all about logistics. Pardon me for bringing up the community, but Danjiel Nesek always checks out the bathroom situation in every venue/club that he enters and tips doormen if they are guarding the bathroom in order to get their permission to pull girls in there if necessary. It is all about pulling a Scotty when opportunities arise.

-The Mexican Rake