TOPIC: Best diet for aesthetics?

Anyone have any thoughts on this? What's the best way to eat to look your best, like healthy skin, and higher testosterone, and staying more lean? I feel like better hormonal profile also sharpens your looks more as well.

My main goals for 2020 are getting jacked / ripped for the first time in my life and trying to get hotter (higher quality) girls.

I'm already pretty satisfied with my style and hair cut. I have no balding or grey hair at all luckily at 29. Already wear 2" lifts. Have plenty of facial hair too even though I keep it trimmed these days just not fully shaved to add more edge to my appearance. And very good hygiene like good breath, smell good, smooth hair, etc.

My big weakness is not working out and being in really good shape. So that is next on the list for me I want my looks as maximized as possible as a very short guy.

I am already fairly lean just not shredded. And don't have much muscle either.

I got down to around 6-8% bf last year around June.

I've eaten the same shit for the last 2 years basically with varying levels of dedication, personally I swear by a pure meat and vegetables diet. Though I do eat carbs sometimes.

Sugar and gluten causes inflammation in your intestines and your body. Scientific studies have linked inflammation to depression. So when you're eating sugar and bread and dairy and shit (milk is another thing I cut out) you're inflaming your gut. You're making your body more lethargic. You're making it harder for yourself.

I ate 1 KG of salmon and a head of broccoli a day with a couple carrots. For about 3 months. Get up at 5am, go to gym, 40 minutes on a treadmill incline walking keeping my heart rate at 125-135 bpm (while fasted) - this heart rate range burns the most fat with the least amount of muscle loss.

Added in intermittent fasting. Fasting also reduces inflammation. If you've never fasted for 24-48 hours before I'd reccomend it its hard but you get a lot of clarity and energy. You go into a state I'd describe as hunter mind. You get more focused, its as if your body knows you are hungry and is putting you into a predatory mode.

So I'd do 40 mins cardio in the morning, some stretching, go to work, black coffee (doesnt break fast) eat my lunch around 1-2pm. Salmon and broccoli. Gym after work, push/pull/legs. I'd hit the sauna every day because hot/cold temperatures also reduce body inflammation.

I'd also do cold showers every morning. Cold showers are great for your skin, heal muscles, heal joint pain and are also good at reducing inflammation.

Actually I'm realising right now how amazing I felt when I did all these things. I haven't done them in a while because I got into a shitty relationship and started slacking again.

But yea dude, meat and vegetables is all you need. 500g chicken for lunch, 500g ribeye steak or something for dinner, 500g of salmon a couple times a week for oil. You get all the nutrients you could want from an assortment of meat and vegetables. And I've never felt healthier and more alive in my life. There are many high level athletes that swear by this shit as well

And yes I learned a lot of this shit watching Joe Rogan podcasts. But I put it all into practice and its legit. After 2 years of this I have the physique of a high level athlete and the athleticism is amazing. I actually feel if I wanted to choose a sport or skill I could get to a fairly high level quickly. When I was at 6-8% body fat hot girls were eye fucking me on my way to work every morning and it felt great. It's hard to maintain. But it's fucking worth it and I want to get back there.

I actually want to make it clear - to anyone. They can get in fucking amazing shape in 3-6 months (provided they're not tremendously out of shape).

When I started the intense training/diet above I was coming right out of another toxic relationship. I had spent 3 whole months smoking half a pack to a packs of cigarettes a day and playing guild wars. Literally all I did. I didn't do any exercise and my body was in shit shape.

I decided I was going to get in the best shape of my life and get a girl hotter than my ex. I was going to put the work in. So I started eating healthier, I would wake up in the morning and walk to the gym and do a workout. I decided I was going to completely cut down and eat 2000 calories a day before I bulked up again.

And yeah, in 3-4 months I was the leanest I'd ever been. I still had a bit of muscle because I had been lifting weights, albeit inconsistently and with improper diet for 6 years before that. But I came out of a hole where I could barely run 4km and just decided I was going to push myself and get better. Anyone who is not completely overweight right now can get down to 6-8% body fat OR LESS in 3 months. All it takes is dedication.

Our bodies are extremely adaptable and change fast. Depending on what we do and put in them. It's crazy you can go from being strung out and pasty in 3 months to having great skin and looking healthy as fuck. Just by eating right and training

@Rapitup Did you hit any plataues in the this diet? Ive been dieting down right now but hit a plataue and this diet would really interest me as its easy to follow (Just needs you to be disciplined) which i have no issue with.

Really solid reply man, appreciate it alot. You seem to know your stuff on this subject.

I'm not just asking although I will take all the feedback I can. I'm working on it currently. I am really trying to transform my facial aesthetics. My body too of course but it's also in how my face looks.

I know it sounds strange but I am seeing dramatic shifts at times, such that I literally look like and feel like a different person on a regular basis.

Right now I look super sharp cause I'm coming off a 30 hour + fast and took some stimulants and chugged a shit ton of water the whole day. Felt like I wanted to throw up in the shower at the end of it but my face actually looks good for once. I know I can only get so lean doing stuff like though cause I don't actually work out right now, at all, so if I push it far my face gets alot sharper but my sex drive goes through the floor I start looking emaciated and still hold onto some fat and lose more of already lacking muscle.

My veins are popping out too and I have V shape on my waist that girls seem to love. I love looking like that and even though I think you can succeed without it the boost in my confidence when I like how I look is massive. When I look shit which is pretty easy for me to achieve just by slacking even a little bit I feel shit too.

I also am eating really healthy right now so I'm sure that helps me but I know getting into really good physical shape is the only way obviously I'll really get there. I've done it before somewhat but never really stuck to it.

I'm worried about the natural limits of my hormones though and how far I will be able to push it without assistance. I'd rather avoid drugs as much as possible.

I used to smoke reds all day, eat junk food, drink whisky, blackout, etc and still be ok but that was at like early to mid 20's and I'm hoping it didn't take too much of a toll on my body. I would have periods of being really healthy other times not so much at all. I am realizing you only got one body and if you waste it you may never get it back. Can't afford to waste any more of whatever I got left.

I feel like I can still do stuff at my peak I just have to way more careful and disciplined than in the past.

I'm actually say I'm good looking when my body is operating at it's max it's just not easy to put it in that zone and even though I can boost it there temporarily I haven't been able to hold it consistently yet but I've never really been as disciplined as I am getting with it now.

I know I'll never be that good looking cause I'm still short but I'm perfectly happy with my looks at what I know are their max potential.

I've tried cold showers before too and probably will start that as a regular habit soon.

And get tanned this summer too since I look way better with a tan. I'm hoping I can put my energy back to where it was in the past. It's hard to explain, I don't feel bad, but I can definitely feel a shift downward even at 29. I don't ever really feel that bad but just don't feel the same kind of intense boost of intensity that I would feel in the past and I miss that shit. I know getting older is inevitable and you gotta let it go eventually but I will definitely hold on it as long as I can.

Sorry i cant give much insight into this topic as im far behind both of you guys in terms of diet it seems like but hearing you both speak about the benifits of being super lean (Face / Veins / V shape / girls reaction etc) is super motivating. Weight loss is so hard though past a point. Im super discplined but my body just stops losing weight after a while of dieting and i can never get down to the extremely low BF.

Taylor1345 wrote: Really solid reply man, appreciate it alot. You seem to know your stuff on this subject.

I'm not just asking although I will take all the feedback I can. I'm working on it currently. I am really trying to transform my facial aesthetics. My body too of course but it's also in how my face looks.

I know it sounds strange but I am seeing dramatic shifts at times, such that I literally look like and feel like a different person on a regular basis.

Right now I look super sharp cause I'm coming off a 30 hour + fast and took some stimulants and chugged a shit ton of water the whole day. Felt like I wanted to throw up in the shower at the end of it but my face actually looks good for once. I know I can only get so lean doing stuff like though cause I don't actually work out right now, at all, so if I push it far my face gets alot sharper but my sex drive goes through the floor I start looking emaciated and still hold onto some fat and lose more of already lacking muscle.

My veins are popping out too and I have V shape on my waist that girls seem to love. I love looking like that and even though I think you can succeed without it the boost in my confidence when I like how I look is massive. When I look shit which is pretty easy for me to achieve just by slacking even a little bit I feel shit too.

I also am eating really healthy right now so I'm sure that helps me but I know getting into really good physical shape is the only way obviously I'll really get there. I've done it before somewhat but never really stuck to it.

I'm worried about the natural limits of my hormones though and how far I will be able to push it without assistance. I'd rather avoid drugs as much as possible.

I used to smoke reds all day, eat junk food, drink whisky, blackout, etc and still be ok but that was at like early to mid 20's and I'm hoping it didn't take too much of a toll on my body. I would have periods of being really healthy other times not so much at all. I am realizing you only got one body and if you waste it you may never get it back. Can't afford to waste any more of whatever I got left.

I feel like I can still do stuff at my peak I just have to way more careful and disciplined than in the past.

I'm actually say I'm good looking when my body is operating at it's max it's just not easy to put it in that zone and even though I can boost it there temporarily I haven't been able to hold it consistently yet but I've never really been as disciplined as I am getting with it now.

I know I'll never be that good looking cause I'm still short but I'm perfectly happy with my looks at what I know are their max potential.

I've tried cold showers before too and probably will start that as a regular habit soon.

And get tanned this summer too since I look way better with a tan. I'm hoping I can put my energy back to where it was in the past. It's hard to explain, I don't feel bad, but I can definitely feel a shift downward even at 29. I don't ever really feel that bad but just don't feel the same kind of intense boost of intensity that I would feel in the past and I miss that shit. I know getting older is inevitable and you gotta let it go eventually but I will definitely hold on it as long as I can.

I'm a decent looking guy, average height and I notice a huge difference from going even from 12-15% down to 6-8%. If you're really determined you can get there, you don't necessarily need to do all the cold showers and 5 am wakeups even. The cardio is a big help, and lifting is too. Diet is the foundation but training will make you.

As far as PED's go... Everyones different in what they believe. I think I could post pictures of myself at my peak that would make some people think I take PED's even though I've never taken any.

I still have another 5-15lbs of lean muscle I believe I could hold before I reach my natural limit. And taking PED's without the lifting discipline behind it is a recipe for disaster. Personally I don't like the idea of messing around with my body chemistry in a way that will permanently effect me. Though I take a bunch of recreational drugs so I'm a bit of a hypocite. Test and shit obviously is safe I've just never felt like I want to get that big.

I don't know what you look like but I know getting lean will make a huge difference to your results. I can get laid at 15% body fat but I never felt legitimately good looking until I got down to 6-8% body fat. I had a sick jaw line, and I literally spent years when I was younger thinking I had no fucking jaw at all. I was just eating like crap and high body fat. It took me getting lean to realise that.

I think every guys gotta do it at least once. Reach their physical limit in muscle and leanness. At least to know what you're truly capable of, it may surprise you.

@CFC1905 I did reach a point at the end of my cut where I felt like I hit a plateau and I wasn't noticably losing weight. What I would've done if I was in that situation again is introduce HIIT workouts, like boxing or sprinting. I also didn't do a progressive calorie deficit. I ate exactly 2000 calories a day for the whole three months. If I started cutting again I'd reduce my calories by 100 a week until I hit 2500, and then monitor from there and reduce calories whenever fat loss stops.

The diet is also incredibly easy to track calories with. Having a weekly eating routine, where you eat the same stuff every week makes tracking calories much easier and takes a lot of the thinking out of it. 500g of chicken and 500g beef or 1kg salmon is about 2000 calories. Then you can increase it more as needed with greek yogurt, nuts and fruit. Or other healthy food like brown rice or eggs.

Do you have a picture of when you were 6-8% bf? Just curious since many people's perception of what different body fat % are quite skewed.

Yeah, any pictures of 6-8% bf??

Left one was probably my leanest. Might’ve been closer to 10% in these photos.

The one on the left was May 2 2018... Right is is Oct 18 2018 while lean bulking... The middle one was Dec 8 2018, after some lean bulking and a bit of a mini cut.

The one on the post below was Feb 18 2018.

And this is where I started from in Feb 2018 after smashing my level 80 ranger on guild wars and deciding to start to train again a couple weeks before. At this point I had been on GLL, lifting weights with a few breaks here and there and aggressive screening for ~4 years.. So I had some foundation to build on

Yeah def not 6%, I would estimate 10, but good fucking job you look ripped and you even look like you retained your muscle while cutting down which is pretty impressive. Most people look completely flat when they cut to that bf%. Good genetics for sure.

Will be trying your regimen actually but with HIIT and martial arts