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Counting calories 23 Jun 2019 03:02 #318441

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I'm wondering if I should be counting calories. I'm 5 foot 10 138 pounds so I'm definitely not worried about adding a little bit of fat. Right now I just eat as much as I can of healthy foods. I wake up and eat 2 servings of steel cut oats with peanut powder. I take 4 plates to work to eat at my breaks. 2 of them are whole grain pasta with 80/20 hamburger and bertolli sauce and the other 2 have pinto beans, organic brown rice and two slices of chicken tenderloins in each. With each meal I add in a slice of ezekiel's organic whole grain bread.

If I lift weights I drink a protein shake with almond milk right afterwards and when I get home I try to eat another 2 servings of steel cut oats. I'm only a week in so I can't say if I've gained any weight, but I'm hovering around the same weight. I also drink a gallon or more of water every goddamn day, not including coffee or kratom. What do y'all think? Right now I'm lifting only 3 times a week doing full body workouts for about 30 to 45 minutes. I'm really not trying to rush my exercise, but I swear I'll be done that soon. I stretch for a few minutes before I lift as well. I do 3 sets of one upper body exercise 6-8 reps, 3 sets of 6-8 reps lower body, 3 sets upper body, 3 sets lower body, then 3 more sets of an upper body exercise. I rest for a minute to a minute and a half.
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Counting calories 23 Jun 2019 04:22 #318442

Bro you are tiny!

You need to start eating at least 2500 calories daily!

Eat at least 150g of protein daily as well.

Of course, avoid eating junk food and you will grow.

Also, start training 5x a week.

I also recommend going on a SARM cycle
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Counting calories 23 Jun 2019 05:20 #318443

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I've always been a skinny dude. You should've seen me in high school. Literally skin and bone. 5 times a week? As much as I'd love to lift every day, isn't that too much? Especially for an ectomorph like me? I'm doing 3 times per week now so I'm not over doing it and burning too many calories. I'll definitely lift 5 times a week if you think it will get me results. I think I'm eating around that range in calories. Also, is occasional junk food ok? I ate an ice cream cone earlier and it's the first junk food thing I've eaten in a while. I don't binge on junk food, but I'm wondering if the occasional treat is ok. I'm not sure what SARM is, but I'll look into it. Thanks man.
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Counting calories 23 Jun 2019 05:31 #318444

Dagon197 wrote: I've always been a skinny dude. You should've seen me in high school. Literally skin and bone. 5 times a week? As much as I'd love to lift every day, isn't that too much? Especially for an ectomorph like me? I'm doing 3 times per week now so I'm not over doing it and burning too many calories. I'll definitely lift 5 times a week if you think it will get me results. I think I'm eating around that range in calories. Also, is occasional junk food ok? I ate an ice cream cone earlier and it's the first junk food thing I've eaten in a while. I don't binge on junk food, but I'm wondering if the occasional treat is ok. I'm not sure what SARM is, but I'll look into it. Thanks man.


I used to be skinny too bro and this is what has worked for me.

I currently weigh 162lb with a 6 pack and I’m 5’8 in height.

I train every single day, I eat at least 3 big meals a day, and I’m on SARMs which help you grow muscle fast. Think of them as steroids without the side effects.

Put in the work and you will see results
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Counting calories 23 Jun 2019 08:02 #318445

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I appreciate it man. I looked up SARMS and I might give it a try. One thing I read that I'm a little worried about is apparently they can cause mood swings. I definitely don't need that shit lol. I'm already a moody motherfucker sometimes. I'm gonna do some more research on them though.
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Check this websites: Leangains.com and rippedbody.com

Make your own research.

In my opinion you shouldn't try PEDs if you are not even close to your genetic potential. Even sarms are not free of side effects. Learn to train and to diet first.

3x or 5x a week? Depends, you have to take into account volume and intensity. 5x of a full body strength workout (which I would recommend) is overkill.

You should count calories, don't be lazy about it. Buy a scale, weight your food and calculate your macros using my fitness pal. But don't obsess about it either. I mean, calculate them roughly, not gram per gram. And relax every once in a while and eat out, etc. What matters is what you do 80% of the time.

"Healthy food" wont make you grow. What makes you grow are macros: A caloric surplus and eating enough protein (from a good source such as meat, not oats). Be careful to not be in a huge surplus otherwise you will gain fat (no more than 300kcal).

"healthy foods" aren't healthy actually, it is just bioscience, for example oats have lectins and way too many carbs (although they are ok for bulking). of bulletproof blog by Dave asprey. Healthy foods are for overall health, mental performance, wellbeing, etc but don't necessarily affect your body composition.
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Thanks man. I'll do some more research on how many times to lift. I'd honestly like to lift every day because I enjoy it, but maybe it would be overkill like you said. I think I'll stay away from the SARMS for now at least. I'm gonna download my fitness pal and start logging my calories.
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Counting calories 23 Jun 2019 17:25 #318458

Dagon197 wrote: Thanks man. I'll do some more research on how many times to lift. I'd honestly like to lift every day because I enjoy it, but maybe it would be overkill like you said. I think I'll stay away from the SARMS for now at least. I'm gonna download my fitness pal and start logging my calories.


Gabo is saying it’s overkill to do full body workouts 5x per week.

I never advised to do full body workouts 5x a week. I simply stated that you should workout 5x per week.

I split up my workouts by body parts and that’s why I go every single day.

If you’re new to the gym, focus on compound lifts for now: squats, deadlifts, bench press, military press, barbell rows.

I recommend doing the 5x5 program. Once your comfortable with the basic compound lifts, then you can start changing up your workouts.
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To answer your question. Yes count calories if you're not getting the results you want. Find out how many calories you eat to maintain your weight. Then add an extra 100 per day. Try it for a few weeks. Then add another 100 per day if needed. Note, you should gain less than a pound a week, unless you are ok putting on fat.

I'd stick with your 3 day/wk plan for the first month or two while your body gets used to the stress. Then look into "split" routines 4-5 days a week. Ideally, you hit each muscle group 2-3 times a week.

Finally, you shouldn't expect muscle size gains for the first 3-6 months. Initial strength gains are neural adaptations.
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Counting calories 23 Jun 2019 23:03 #318477

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I'd rather not put on too much fat. My main goal is to look good. I know I'm gonna put on some fat, but I don't want too much. Appreciate it. I'm gonna shoot for around 3000 calories per day and see where that gets me. That My Fitness Pal app is fucking great.
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