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I recently replaced my weight gain diet for a maintenance diet *. I eat up to 25 eggs a day (among other sources) to satisfy the requirement of 2.2 g of protein/kg of body mass.
Yesterday, I had my cholesterol checked, and I saw that my LDL cholesterol is 178 mg/dL (maximum permitted is 100), adding to 252 mg/dL of total cholesterol!
I consulted with my father, who is a MD, and he recommended (besides all the other, more obvious advice) to cut eggs completely from my diet.
Yet, it's been told here in the forum, by Chris, and other sources I checked that eggs are not supposed to increase your cholesterol levels.
Until a week ago, I was following a diet of ~%40 carbs (good ones, mostly: brown rice, lentils, oatmeal). Last week, I decreased carb comsumption from my diet (only 3 bananas per day), while meeting the calorie requirement for maintenance.
I also eat red meat two days a week, tops (although last week I might have eaten meat 4 days a week). I drink fatty milk, too, but not frequently. Oh, and I eat my veggies once every 2 days, at the least.
How about that? Any other of you have experienced something like this?
* Following the instructions in Chris' "How to Gain Weight Fast" - awesome! I went from 68 kg to 75 kg in 5 months! Thanks a lot, Chris.
Never ever heard of someone eating that many whole eggs. I would maybe eat 5 or 6 yolks per day tops and as many whites as you want. I read somewhere that yolks increasing ones cholesterol was false. But I think that was for normal portions of a few eggs. Too much of anything can be a problem. One doughnut is fine , a dozen is not so good.
@Paulus Maximus: How so? Does testosterone influences the amount of chol in the blood?
@rbenn: I also heard of others that eat 6 eggs, tops, and they have very good physiques. Then again, I did some research, and found that 2.2 g of protein/kg of body mass might be an exaggeration, even when dieting with a caloric deficit.
Some other sources speak about 1.2-1.8 g./kg being enough for maintaining lean mass. At that rate, I can diminish my egg consumption to 6 a day, instead of +15.
That's pretty interesting. It may simply be too much eggs. They aren't the only source of protein you know I eat 5 eggs a day and maintain a steady protein intake of 300 grams per day. Only includes one protein shake too. I eat a lot of meat.
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Terminator wrote: That's pretty interesting. It may simply be too much eggs. They aren't the only source of protein you know I eat 5 eggs a day and maintain a steady protein intake of 300 grams per day. Only includes one protein shake too. I eat a lot of meat.
300 grams is a lot of protein, considering what you said.
Do you happen to have a log of your diet? I'll be very interested to see that.
There comes a point at which eating more protein does not produce an anabolic response in your body and it is a waste of your money to keep eating it beyond that point.
If we look at well-conducted studies that are without flaws and show no sign of bias by being funded by supplement companies, the highest amount of protein that has been found to produce an anabolic response is 1.8g/kg. Most studies in fact report lower numbers than this - around 1.3g/kg. These studies include both elite and novice bodybuilders in both bulking and cutting phases, with both high and low training volumes. You cannot get better results by eating 2.2g of protein per kg of bodyweight than you would get eating 1.8g. 2.2g was once recommended, but our understanding has moved on since those days.
As far as the eggs are concerned, I would listen to your dad rather than to Chris. I used to eat 6 eggs a day, and even that had a bad effect on my health - 25 will certainly be bad for your cholesterol. I'd advise going down to 4 and making up the difference some other way, such as with egg whites or tuna.
I saw one youtube video with a medical doctor saying that knowing your LDL level is not enough. The real enemy is the small particles of cholesterol moving through our blood veins. These small particles are part of LDL, but they are a special kind. They do real damage by causing ruptures in the walls of our veins because they move at a high speed. And he talks about asking our clinics for a particle test of cholesterol.
I've also heard another guy. (don't remember if he's an MD) saying that saturated fat (the ones in the yolks) is actually healthy. He says the fat in the breast milk of the human mother is 50% saturated fat. Also, he says there are tribes that eat 60, 70, 80% saturated fat foods, and they are still alive!. And both of these guys say that the enemy is sugar (processed sugar) and eating too much vegatable oil (sunflower oil which we use to fry stuff) which contains too much omega 6 and not compensating with eating a lot of fish, which contain omega 3. Omega 3 and 6 should be in an equal quantity in our body
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I can't remember that guy training log on bodybuilding.com/forum, but i think he's from NZ and his name is Swifty or something like that. He said that he eated around 20+ eggs a day, and that is something like equivalent of dbol. Could that be true?
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