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Training for Aesthetics-Worth It In Your Opinion 22 Apr 2014 07:44 #121238

I do a lot of faggy isolation exercises during the week. For example, I will round out shoulders with front raises on a cable and then lateral raises with dumbbells. I do low weights with good form. Don’t worry, I do my overheard presses and will also indirectly get my shoulders with bench, deadlifts, etc. other days during the week.

But a lot of strength guys and bodybuilding studs say those are faggy exercises, do compound lifts, you won’t grow with this isolation crap. Well, I am going for a beach body. I would say like Boy Toy but with a bit more muscle and less abs (I just don’t have energy to get to his level). So, is there some value for still doing these isolation movements, after the big compound ones? I would say my strength is mid-level for my age and weight. My upper body aesthetics (minus any abs) are pretty good. Bitches be lovin’ my body and can’t get enough when fucking.

So my question to you is it worth it for me to add in these gay isolation exercises at the end of my workouts? My thinking is it’s only 20 extra minutes per week out of my life and the extra results it produces with the ladies from an attraction standpoint is worth the time. What do you think?

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Training for Aesthetics-Worth It In Your Opinion 22 Apr 2014 10:45 #121269

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Worth it, it won't be gay when you are pulling sloots with your aesthetics. Just make sure you don't go full curl bro.
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Training for Aesthetics-Worth It In Your Opinion 22 Apr 2014 13:47 #121283

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From your signature it seems your trying to lose weight. Thereby do not do too much volume cause you are in a caloric deficiet.
You would benefit from a fullbody routine, upper/lower or p/p/l.
Never heard of the level mid-level stregnth, but if you write some numbers out that would defiently help for helping you out.

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Training for Aesthetics-Worth It In Your Opinion 22 Apr 2014 14:39 #121294

Unless you start testing yourself, there isn't really much point in doing isolation exercises.

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Training for Aesthetics-Worth It In Your Opinion 22 Apr 2014 15:36 #121317

If anyone more experienced then me read this and thinks I'm crazy, please, by all means, read my log and offer advice, I want to be the best I can be

I'm no expert but I have been weight training in gyms for about 15 years now... Some of that time with a world record holding power lifter, and also one of the best personal trainers I have ever seen.

Here is my opinion.... Until recently, I would always advocate compound lifts, and I always did them with some additional supplemental exercises... With that said, I am currently using a "club house gym" in my apartment building. It doesn't even have a squat rack or a bench press, or even an Olympic bar.. I wanted to see if I could get into good shape using just that gym.. I think I certainly am...

It really comes down to knowing your own body and how you respond to the lifts and build muscle. Everyone's body is different. My core builds super strong super quick, but my arms and calves are a nightmare to get to grow...

Also, I don't think girls give a fuck about how much you lift... in fact, I know they don't. Also, having a "Strong core" is not anything they are looking for....

I think the most important thing is this: Diet + Exercise = Results.

Ideally, I think doing compound lifts + additional lifts to hit your desired muscles is best.

Currently, I am only doing ISO lifts and am seeing great results, I think it is because I am able to put 100% of my energy into the exact muscle group that I want. I also think the fact that I had been doing compound lifts for 8+ years straight I have some "residual" core strength and size for the lack of a better term. Believe it or not, my back and chest etc.. is better looking now then it was when I was doing compounds.
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Training for Aesthetics-Worth It In Your Opinion 22 Apr 2014 15:38 #121319

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Getting to low body fat % is, by far, the easiest part. Everybody can get abs like boy toy.

What are your goals right now? If you want to loose weight then stick to the compound moves. Do them heavy (4-8 reps, 25-40 reps per body part). You're in a calorie deficit therefore your recovery is greatly reduced. Adjust volume accordingly.

This is how everything fitness related works - you train hard as hard as your recovery allows you, rest, super compensation happens and you come back bigger/stronger/faster/whatever. So ask yourself this: do you really need the extra work at the end to stimulate the muscle? As long as you're a natty, no. Your recovery will ALWAYS be the limiting factor. More is not always better.
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Training for Aesthetics-Worth It In Your Opinion 25 Apr 2014 05:10 #122058

To me, training for aesthetics only reinforces insecurity issues related to my looks, while training solely for strength reinforces my confidence, sense of well-being and masculinity. I still look pretty good training for strength, but more importantly I don't give a fuck how I look because being stronger is such a great reward in itself. That is true freedom for me.

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Training for Aesthetics-Worth It In Your Opinion 25 Apr 2014 06:15 #122069

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Mokele Mbembe wrote: To me, training for aesthetics only reinforces insecurity issues related to my looks, while training solely for strength reinforces my confidence, sense of well-being and masculinity. I still look pretty good training for strength, but more importantly I don't give a fuck how I look because being stronger is such a great reward in itself. That is true freedom for me.

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I couldn't agree more. Pulling a heavy ass deadlift which you couldn't pull before is a feeling similar to just fucking a hot chick - feeling alpha and awesome. The truth is, if you're a natty training for anything other than strenght is stupid until you've hit 2x BW SQ&DL, 1.2 BP, 0.8xBW OHP and so on.I'd rather do 5 sets of 6 reps than 3x10 and well, I do.

Another crucial thing about strength is that it's very easy to gauge. Did you pull 200 lbs last time and pulled 210 this time? Then you're stronger this time. It will also tell you if you've lost any muscle during a cut, as strength loss is a good indicator of muscle loss.

However, I don't think training for a better body reinforces any insecurities. if you're training for YOU and not everyone else.
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Training for Aesthetics-Worth It In Your Opinion 25 Apr 2014 14:30 #122111

I don't think you need to choose aesthetics vs strength, at least not until you're a more advanced lifter. There are tons of programs that have you doing heavy compound lifts with some isolation pump work at the end. I'd feel ridiculous if I had a lot of sarcoplasmic hypertrophy without any strength to back it up, but you don't need to completely eliminate higher rep work. Also, as long as you lift, most of the aesthetic look is just having sub 10% bodyfat.

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Training for Aesthetics-Worth It In Your Opinion 25 Apr 2014 16:11 #122127

Dannn wrote: Another crucial thing about strength is that it's very easy to gauge. Did you pull 200 lbs last time and pulled 210 this time? Then you're stronger this time. It will also tell you if you've lost any muscle during a cut, as strength loss is a good indicator of muscle loss.

However, I don't think training for a better body reinforces any insecurities. if you're training for YOU and not everyone else.


Yeah I think the measure-ability of strength training is attractive to me. I'm very much a logical/rational sort of personality so I like something concrete as a measure of progress. As for the looks and insecurity thing, I was stating my position about what works for me with the thought that maybe some others are in the same situation and could be helped by thinking about it that way.
It was in no way a judgement of what others do.

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Training for Aesthetics-Worth It In Your Opinion 02 May 2014 06:14 #123624

Ubermensch wrote: Worth it, it won't be gay when you are pulling sloots with your aesthetics. Just make sure you don't go full curl bro.




I’m definitely banging some sloots. And as I look better, I am getting better ones too. The one in my avatar was fun for a while.

Even though I am an older dude, I have been getting a lot of women in their mid-twenties starting convos. Shit wasn’t like this 2+ years ago. Check my thread here and compare the 2 photos:

www.goodlookingloser.com/forums/members-...-how-old-am-i#123620

The photos are 3 years apart, but I am really starting to see the jawline these days. I think I am 15% BF right now, and maybe 22% back in 2011. I am doing my best to trim down to 10% but I am short on time.

PS What is full curl?
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Training for Aesthetics-Worth It In Your Opinion 02 May 2014 06:25 #123625

jimwendler wrote: I don't think you need to choose aesthetics vs strength, at least not until you're a more advanced lifter. There are tons of programs that have you doing heavy compound lifts with some isolation pump work at the end. I'd feel ridiculous if I had a lot of sarcoplasmic hypertrophy without any strength to back it up, but you don't need to completely eliminate higher rep work. Also, as long as you lift, most of the aesthetic look is just having sub 10% bodyfat.


True. And I do a decent amount of deadlifts, bench presses and squats. But I am obsessed with my arms and they usually get their own day at the gym. I do my barbell curls, but later on follow up with isolation movements like spider curls (highly recommended for shaping but not mass). My diet is very much on point.

I think women love my combination of large arms and a (somewhat) lean body. It conveys both strength and attractiveness.
4/1/13: Body Stats- 5'11", 190 lbs., mesomorph, muscular body, no abs (20% BF), doing GLL Fat Loss Diet
4/1/14: 183 lbs., 15.0% BF, need to add more cardio
Goal: 10% BF, 170 - 175 lbs. and a physique similar to Vin Armani (Google Him).
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