TOPIC: Sexual Escalation Failed

Hey Losers,

I haven't been around in a while. Recently obtained personal transportation, so that has been a blessing for many reasons, but mostly because I have a better shot going out again. I've been online dating again for about 2.5 weeks now. Anyways, during my online dating hunt I got a girl to come out. Tall thing, not the prettiest honestly (Probably a 5.5 on my scale and my standards are not very high, but I'm hungry for experience).

Keeping it short: Went for coffee, said we should watch a film at my place, She agrees. I drive her and get touchy minutes into the film. She tells me to back off, I do for a second and go for a kiss. She kisses back. We do this a few times before I tell her I'll give her a massage. I do so on the couch, but say we should move to the bed (More space you know). She agrees.

I go through several resistances from unhooking her bra, taking off her shirt and pants and panties. But then...I sneak over for the gold wrap and she says "What are you doing?" "....Getting the condom?" "We're NOT having sex. Sorry."

I feel crushed, but play it off like it's whatever. Not to mention this happens after I had her suck me off during the massage. I try putting my hands down her pants, but she still remains hesitant and so I give up. We play naked (sucking tits, telling her to give blowjobs, etc) and I finish myself off.

I drop her off at her car and she says Goodnight. It was fun, but I can't stop thinking about it. If I went through so much back-and-forth to get that far, why did I give less pressure when the time came? Was she ever going to have sex? It felt like pushing for the goal was too much I guess. I'm not very experienced, so I'm glad I was able to get that far, but I was hoping it'd all fall into place, you know? But when trying to finger her twice and get the condom once it all fell apart.

Obviously I've been using Rooster's great basic guide. But I couldn't keep the persistence. It always feels like there never will be a next time. Anyways, this was more of an informative story for the guys out there to push a bit more. However, tips are appreciated if more experienced guys have overcome this.

Don't get too hard on yourself, from the looks of it, you did everything you could do.
You can never know what's inside a girl's head. She was probably nervous or something, whatever the matter is, it is most definitely not on your part.

Happened to me once or twice too. Probably everyone on this forum at one point.

Best way to not have these kinds of situations is to screen hard beforehand.
And as you'll max out your looks and screen, you'll have less encounters like this.

Keep up the good work.

Thanks Plisken. I'll definitely keep going as I work on myself.

How long did you persist?

Most of my friends complain about LMR. But, when I ask them "well how long did you persist?" they say "15-30 minutes"

LOL.

I think the most I've persisted was 4 hours. She kept saying no and eventually, I gave up. A day later, she messages me, saying "Next time I come over I'll blah blah blah". And I tell her "Nope, there's not going to be a second time". She probably was one of those girls who, for whatever reason, don't have sex on the first date. That's fine, but whenever a girl resists her biological urges due to societal norms, it pisses me off.

However, I've gotten laid with girls that kept saying no for 2-3 hours. The "trick" as I later found out (and I think BIB also mentioned somewhere) is to eventually get your fingers inside her pussy. When you do that, it's game over. I've also had a girl tell me "You know we're not gonna have sex tonight, right?", said "oh well", but kept escalating. Took her shorts off and slythered my fingers inside her - goodbye resistance, hello sex.

If she give you resistance when pulling down her pants/shorts, you can probably say "just wanna see that booty of yours" or something.

Crisis_Overcomer wrote: How long did you persist?

Most of my friends complain about LMR. But, when I ask them "well how long did you persist?" they say "15-30 minutes"

LOL.

I think the most I've persisted was 4 hours. She kept saying no and eventually, I gave up. A day later, she messages me, saying "Next time I come over I'll blah blah blah". And I tell her "Nope, there's not going to be a second time". She probably was one of those girls who, for whatever reason, don't have sex on the first date. That's fine, but whenever a girl resists her biological urges due to societal norms, it pisses me off.

However, I've gotten laid with girls that kept saying no for 2-3 hours. The "trick" as I later found out (and I think BIB also mentioned somewhere) is to eventually get your fingers inside her pussy. When you do that, it's game over. I've also had a girl tell me "You know we're not gonna have sex tonight, right?", said "oh well", but kept escalating. Took her shorts off and slythered my fingers inside her - goodbye resistance, hello sex.

If she give you resistance when pulling down her pants/shorts, you can probably say "just wanna see that booty of yours" or something.

Yeah, I definitely only persisted for about 15-30 minutes as far as the bedroom went. lol. I didn't think it could take hours and still succeed. .

Funny you say that "Just wanna see that booty" line because that's exactly how I did get her pants and panties off. It was afterwards where I still had trouble. As far as time goes though, I certainly didn't go for long. How did you fill up the rest of those hours? Making out and body play?

I don't remember how I filled those hours. However, don't focus too much on the verbal stuff. As Chris has mentioned before, the fact that she's still there with you is a green light. It will help if you read some of his first articles - they will really put a lot of things in perspective.