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So I may not be posting detailed logs anymore as I feel that era of my life has come to an end like some others before me I still feel obligated to share any precious nuggets of knowledge I have acquired in my journey.
So this is one of them I think you guys might like a lot.
A couple of months ago a blood test showed that although my total testosterone was very high, my free test was crazy low - well below range. I won't go into all the specific details as to why that was and how it ended up that way because I would end up rambling on about it for ages.
The point is: my dick was not functioning well and my libido while not dead was notably less than it used to be.
So I decided to take some action and do (a lot) of research for all possible compounds that are known to increase free testosterone or inhibit SHBG (sex-hormone binding globulin) which makes testosterone unusable by your body no matter how high your total levels were.
In addition I did all the usual healthy shit I normally do e.g. enough sleep, decent diet with no vitamin deficiencies (especially VitD, K2, Zinc, magnesium etc.)
For the first 2.5 weeks I didn't notice anything. I was working at sea just doing my thing. Then without warning I woke up one morning was harder downstairs than I can ever remember being. And this kind of burning, aching sensation to fap. It has been this way essentially ever since and I had quite a few fapping binges (one day I did it 7 times which I am sure never happened since I was in my teens).
Now I have to say I DON'T know which of these supplements has caused this. It didn't happen overnight but it kind of did. Maybe they built up in my system until a certain switch was turned on in my body. I won't pretend to know. I was considering adding L-DOPA 20% and Siberian ginseng to the mix but I think if I got any hornier my lifestyle would become worse not better. I am already at risk with watching porn and I am now remembering how easy it was in my teenage years to become addicted.
I also haven't had sex since November due to being at work and being currently at home with my parents. So I don't actually know if I will still feel this way when I do have sex though I doubt there will be any problem. For the first time since 2014 I have been having AMAZING bathmate workouts - no more turtle dick.
And I have not yet had another (free) testosterone test but will do very shortly. I will be very interested to see how it compares to the one I had a couple of months ago.
Finally I plan to remove one of these supplements every couple of weeks to see if there is any one of them which stops this incredible state of feeling like a horny 15 year old again. If you all are interested I will post the progress here...
It has been 3 days since I ran out of D-aspartic acid which was my intention anyway as I read that you are meant to cycle it. Otherwise you get these elevated prolactin problems as well as lowered testosterone strangely enough requiring AIs to remedy. I doubt it is that strong and those studies were done on mice but still. Gotta be cautious!
And I can say my sex drive has completely....
disappeared... Well not entirely. But declined to 'baseline' so to speak. The fact it gradually faded these past few days points to the evidence that DAA does indeed have a profound effect on libido and from the 2 week mark my libido was raging EVERY day I continued to take DAA.
So I don't plan on taking it for another 3 or 4 weeks which is convenient cuz I am going to be working at sea anyway.
What I WILL do however is add mucuna extract - with L-Dopa 20% which had scientific evidence in increasing testosterone and is known to offset the potential prolactin increases brought about by DAA or other compounds.
I know Fenugreek and DAA are known to help with libido but from a quick research I didn't see anything relevant for Boron and Nettle leaf? What are they supposed to do?
I have taken DAA alone for a month before and I haven't noticed any effects from them. Though I have used Zinc, L-Arginine, Saw Palmetto( and maybe something else I don't remember) and I would get crazy boners after 3 days, but then things would calm down again. So I'd have a similar experience like yours. I don't know what the logic in all that is...
What would be the recommended cycle for DAA?
Do you have any sources I could read about mucuna extract and L-Dopa 20%?
Boron has been proven to boost free test (which is my problem at the moment). Stinging nettle leaf I don't believe raises test at all at least directly but reduces inflammation and is known to prevent prostate problems this way. More of a nice to have than a must have. Zinc, magnesium, Vitamin D, K2 etc. i take as a baseline because obviously any deficit of any of those could be a testosterone/libido bottleneck.
Like you I once used DAA standalone on more than one occasion for a few weeks and noticed nothing. Yet when combined with those other compounds it quite possibly made a huge difference. But this experiment is far from over - we shall see...
Stand by for testosterone hormone panel results marking 6 weeks since starting this. I’m sad to hear that about fenugreek but I guess if it is used for women to induce breastmilk production it sort of makes sense.
How much mucuna do you actually need to use to get the effect you want and do you cycle it?
Idan the Mac wrote: How much mucuna do you actually need to use to get the effect you want and do you cycle it?
On Examine they said 5 grams of extract powder so thats what I use..I buy this bulk powder on amazon, b/c with capsules you'd have to take way too many...adds up $$$.. so basically 2 tsps at night.. I skip every 4th or 5th day... Also make sure not to take it at same time with tyrosine or phenyalanine since they compete for absorption, also never with Vitamin b6
E2 in range
Total Test in range
Free Test in range
DHEA in range
DHEA-S in range SHBG double normal range! Progesterone double normal range!
Thyroid - all in range
The clinic messed up my order and didn’t test for prolactin which was incredibly irritating.
So it looks like I have found the key to feeling like I have barely average libido most of the time despite having very high testosterone and why so little of it is ‘free.’ SHBG. Sex hormone binding globulin. Progesterone might have something to do with it also.
I have read a lot about this. Seems SHBG is complicated as fuck. There is no sure fire way to bring it down. There are some powerful steroid type compounds like winstrol and danazol but that is pretty extreme for the moment. And what is causing it to be high could be 1000s of things. A few things I can immediately dismiss such as thyroid problems. Serious liver damage unlikely too given my enzyme results were all within range. That clomid/nolva cycle from last year is where my money is at.
Stinging Nettle Root which I have been taking for 2 months now should in theory help. It won’t bring it down but it is meant to bind to it in place of test which allows free test to increase. But further reading seems to point to the fact that e2 can rise this way (we will see at my next blood if my e2 will be any higher). Proviron is supposed to act this way too though with greater strength. That may well be the next step.
Fenugreek is said to increase prolactin/e2 as Beef said. Same problems associated with D-aspartic acid. Next blood test will verify if I will continue taking I suppose. The Mucuna puriens L-Dopa should offset that a bit though may need to increase the dosage depending on bloods. 1g/day is small compared to what Beef is currently on but I may indeed up the dose when the time comes…
For now until 1 month from now:
Double boron intake from 6-12mg/day and try and find that green tea extract
Increase magnesium to 1g split throughout the day
Then I will reassess if more serious action will be needed. So far it seems only DAA is what leads to crazy sex drive though it takes 3 weeks (at 1g/day) for that to occur. I prefer smaller build up due to what I read about it.
So it is mid-february now and I can say my libido has been lacklustre at best the last month or so (just as well as I was working). I didn't have the urge to fap at all.
Yesterday I decided to start using D-aspartic acid again as it had been over a month since cycling off it- 3000mg/day split up throughout.
My sex drive has dramatically increased already. Not quite at the intensity it did at the start of the year but it is getting there and I wouldn't be surprised if a full repeat of that full week or so of extreme horniness awaits!
In March I will test my bloods once again and see if my SHBG has been lowered.
I also booked an endocrinologist appointment. The time may have come to go on TRT at last if there is no way to lower it because this seems to be the root of my all my troubles
Is there any chance of becoming dependent on DAA for high testosterone levels? Something that always worries me about taking supplements
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