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Shanghai_Bobby wrote: Wow Andy, it's actually so timely you posted this aye. I'm about 3 weeks away from writing a super comprehensive post on my blog about your exact comments.
I'm probably going to get neg Karma for this, but in my sincerest and humblest opinion, the only way to score consistent 8+ is if:
- you're 10 online
- very hard work cold approaching (like full time job hard)
- using leverage
By my calculations, I'll be in a position to abuse seeking arrangement and other sites like these in 6 - 8 months.
Again guys, don't get triggered and neg Karma - women are naturally hypergamous. With the way feminism is and the amount of hot guys willing to cuck themselves, it's proving more and more inefficient to be just maxed out in the looks department alone.
Moving forward, I truly believe we need a combination of maxed out SMV + the perception of status leverage, and I don't mean buying them shit; I mean being hot and being ultra sorted, and appealing to their inner hypergamous nature.
TLDR, also work on your finances
Yeah that's something I've been working on too. But I call it lifestyle, which you can't sustain comfortably without some financial stability.
It seems like guys that have exhausted cold approach/online game seem to transition to since it's also a more efficient way of getting high quality women while living their life.
I just think people should always move forward and work on their style and looks no matter their position.
As for style, I'd like to give one piece of advice. Don't rush into buying a ton of clothes because dialing your style takes time and a ton of trial and error. You're going to buy stupid shit and throw it out cause you start to hate it and it doesn't look good. I still to this day buy so much stupid shit and end up returning it.
As for what Shanghai said, I totally agree. Online dating is probably 95% looks based and that's why I'm so incredibly critical of people's profiles because you need to have a good profile if you want to get laid at all. Know why I'm critical because girls are critical and they're going to screen you as fast as a swipe of their little-painted nails. Check the last lay that I posted today, girl was sexually available and I asked to come over and I fucked her. If my pics sucked that it wouldn't have happened.
And girls are totally hypergamous, and if they ever date someone of lower status is because they can boss that poor man around like no ones business. That's why we need to get rich, get sexy and fuck hard.
Love all the progress though man. You're doing incredibly well imho.
So jelly that you're a photographer. I've always wanted to be good at taking photos. And I could imagine why girls like that, they always want hot pics for their gram profiles.
Met this chick on Bumble, met her for a drink, took her back to mine. Sex was good (ok, sex was fucking AMAZING - we went nuts on each other). She's very inexperienced but VERY passionate when she gets horny.
But her personality is where it's at - she's fucking hilarious. She's a huge nerd, she kept talking about Dungeons and Dragons and video games all night. She's also taking self-defence lessons because, and I quote, "I want to become a ninja warrior or a Jedi apprentice".
I spent the entire night calling her Krav Maga to her face, so that's her nickname from now on.
I didn't take proof pics this time - she knows I take pics of other girls, and the first thing she said when we walked into my apartment was "Hey... can you please not take any pictures of me." I'm cool with that.
Which brings me to: I'm at a weird point. I can't be bothered retaining any girls... Or even having sex with them more than once. Circus Bitch is the cutest girl I've banged in ages, and super into me, but I can't even be bothered picking up my phone to type "Hey let's meet up again". I just feel nothing but complete apathy.
I also can't be bothered fucking new girls (I had to talk myself into seeing this chick tonight) so maybe I'm just tired or need a few days off or something. I feel worn out. Apathetic towards girls.
I feel it towards this chick tonight too - she was HEAPS of fun and I know I "should" fuck her... I just "can't be bothered".
Woody Allen is the ONLY girl I've kept around, and that is ONLY because 1) I really like her personality and enjoy hanging out with her outside of sex 2) she's going to bring in other girls for me.
But the rest I just can't be bothered fucking them more than once. It's like I stick my dick in them and then I'm done.
Maybe I just haven't found many girls worth keeping around. Like, maybe I'm getting to a point now where sex isn't enough - the girl has to be cool and interesting too, otherwise there's no point me seeing her a second time.
I'm not sure if this is a good thing, or if I'm losing my mind. 3 months ago I would have LEAPT at the chance to have several fuckbuddies. Now I have a bunch of girls who want to be my fuckbuddy, but I can't even be assed mustering up the energy to fuck them.
I feel like there's something wrong with me. Maybe I'm just overthinking it. I honestly don't know.
It could also be the case that these girls just aren't hot enough. Most of them are cute at best. Fun once, but without an amazing personality they don't hold your attention for long.
I think I'm going to see Krav Maga again to see what it's like a second time. I did genuinely enjoy her company outside of sex... but not super enjoyed it. More like "she was slightly entertaining".
Right now I'm just "going through the motions" and still seeing new chicks, because I know it's what I need to be doing. I can't stop and get lazy just because I'm going through this weird period. I've got a few more dates lined up this week, should be good.
First of all inspiering stuff bro. Reading this I‘m realy looking forward to the point when I have finished the AA drills aswell.
Whatever I have experienced the same apathy towards Girls aswell in the past.
Could be several things like xen pointed out some micronutritients lacking in your diet.
But I went best with not overthinking it too much and just going with how I feel , almost alwasys things looked different in 2 weeks.
Btw are you doing no fap? That was big for me aswell.
I feel ya man. I am at a similar point.
You see, girls are boring, for the most part. On top of the fact that most of them are just barely cute.
The way I see it is, I go through a few stages with chicks. If she's attractive enough for me to want to fuck her, then I'll do it. Then I'll fuck her a couple more times if it's good enough.
Beyond that, she gotta either have a sexy body for me to not get bored, or above average looks with really good skills in bed plus some interesting personality traits.
If you feel like you have maxed out your results at the current level, then all you have to do is raise your standards while maintaining the quantity of chicks you want.
I'd say retain a couple of these chicks, but leave some room and energy(mental and physical) for new and hotter/interesting chicks. Always work towards upgrading(yourself and the chicks).
Personally right now I'd take a cool date with a real hottie vs a quick lay with some barely cute chick.
I'll try zinc. I should point out I *DO* have a very strong sex drive... I'm just not super into any of the girls I'm banging. It's time to upgrade to more attractive chicks (by making myself more attractive).
I can't fap - I don't have time/energy/desire to masturbate. I've jerked off once in the last month.
@ETA: Yeah man most girls ARE boring, I can't disagree with that. Once you remove the
"women are wonderful"
effect and start seeing them as normal human beings, you realise how lame most of them are. No hobbies, no friends, no direction in life, etc. I think that's why I'm attracted to chicks like Krav Maga and Circus Bitch and Woody Allen. At least there's something interesting about them.
Yeah I agree with everything you wrote mate. Thanks. That's really helpful.
I'll keep Woody Allen, Circus Bitch and Krav Maga. But they'll be lower priority - main priority will always be the new girls.
And you're right about upgrading - I have a few legitimately HOT girls I've matched on tinder. (I never actually get to meet up with them, so my looks have a long way to go obviously). But when I think about meeting them, my dick gets fucking hard... I'd give ANYTHING to shag one of these hotties.
I have a lot of self-doubt that I could ever get to a point where hot girls want me. But doubt or no doubt, I still have to max my looks and just see what happens.
No new lays, haven't been pushing it much this week. Krav Maga chick turned out to be weird so prob won't see her again. I'm enjoying fucking Woody Allen, she's definitely my main whore right now.
Have totally overhauled my style - I've thrown out 90% of my clothes and bought a couple new outfits. I'm dressing like a "fuckboy" now - I'll take some photos once I've completed my outfits.
This is the first time in my life I've actually REALLY cared about what I look like. I've been dressing "safe" for too long (which a few of you have pointed out in the past). I finally feel like I deserve to dress like a guy who gets laid.
I plan on taking a few "fashion photos", similar to
to use on Tinder.
Also getting a tattoo, just waiting for the artist to get back to me with a consult time. Gonna get a skull + snake on my forearm.
Woody Allen is losing weight. She actually said to me out of nowhere one day, "I know I'm fat. I know I'm disgusting. If you tell me to lose weight, I will do it." She looked me dead in the eyes and had this look on her face like she was really fucking serious.
So I said, "Ok. Lose 6kg (13lbs) in 12 weeks."
She very clearly just needs someone to tell her what to do, because damn, she got serious about it. She downloaded a calorie-counting app, she's been sticking to her calories every day (1500cals) and has completely stopped drinking.
I was also very honest with her and said "Look, I don't really keep girls around for very long... at all. And to be honest, I'm not super attracted to you - I'm keeping you around for reasons other than your looks. But I'm already starting to get bored, and I know I'll be totally bored in another few weeks. But if you start losing weight, it'll DEFINITELY help keep me more interested."
That seemed to light a fire under her ass.
Her Tinder hunting (for other girls) hasn't been going great. Partly because she's too fussy - she has INSANELY HIGH standards. She keeps swiping "no" for chicks for the DUMBEST FUCKING REASONS - "I don't like her eyebrows", "She uses too many filters on her photo", "I don't like her fingernail colour", "I don't like girls who take photos during sunset, it's too try-hard", "Girls who take photos with their dogs are lame". What the fucking fuck.
I said "Do you actually want to get laid, or do you want to fuck around?" I told her about Chris' articles about "The plight of the lonely bodybuilder" and "lower your standards" etc. She seemed to get it.
She also has SHIT pictures, so I'll take her out and take some good photos of her at some point.
I find it really fucking fun to teach her to get laid, because helping her get laid will help me get laid with 3somes. That's cool.
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