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Nah. I mean sometimes I'll bang a girl where the sex isn't that great, or maybe her personality is bad, etc - but I'm stil grateful for the experience of meeting her. And for every 1 bad experience, I have 5 experiences like the ones below...
DADDY GOT HIS 5TH COLD APPROACH LAY BOYS!!!!!!!!
Fuck yeah. It's an epic story, jesus. Took an insane amount of work.
So the vietnamese chick (not the virgin one) came over to my place for a 3rd date. Bare in mind on the 2nd date she slept over my house and I tried to bang but she was literally falling asleep on me.
So last night she comes round, first thing she says is "Are we going to stay in your apartment all night or can we go out?" Bad sign.
Right from the get-go I'm super aggressive, making out with her passionately. Gave her a glass of wine to loosen her up a bit. But every time I try to escalate, she pushes me away roughly... Really roughly. She won't kiss me for more than 10 seconds max. I tried for literally 1.5 hours, just kept getting pushed away roughly. She keeps stopping me and saying "Can we go to dinner?" "I want you to take me to dinner" "Can we go to the cinemas?" Of course I say fuck no to all those. Finally she puts her hands on my throat and shoves me hard, hurt a bit, it was VERY clear it wasn't going anywhere.
So I say "Look, if you're not feeling it I understand. Let's call it a night then, I'll walk you back to your car."
She goes, "Really?"
I look her in the eyes and say, "Yeah. I'm not going to sit here and pretend I don't want something I do."
She thinks for a bit and looks sad, then says "ok".
So I walk her to her car, she's walking SO slow like she's thinking about it. She goes "Wait... just so we're clear, what did you mean? What did you want?"
I grab her, pull her to me and kiss her passionately, then say, "I want you."
She pushed me away again, lol, and says "I've never done it with someone who wasn't my boyfriend..."
I say "I understand. I'm not going to pressure you to do something you don't want to do. If you're not comfortable and don't want to do it, it's all good."
She thinks for a bit as we walk the rest of the way to her car. She's quiet, so I say goodbye.
So I leave, and I'm angry, since this seemed like a done deal. I literally texted her, "Come over to my place and we'll drink wine", can't get any more obvious than that. I walk around for a while talking to my buddy Mike on the phone, then I grab some dinner.
I head home, and she's standing in my driveway, and runs up to me. "Oh my god andy i'm so sorry, I forgot my phone!" I'm still mad at her but I let her come up to my place and her phone is underneath my couch. I give it to her, and she sits and looks at me. I decide to give her 5 minutes to see if she'll try to make amends. She asks again, "Can we go to dinner... but if we go to dinner, will you have any expectations?"
Lol she's literally saying, "Give me what I want, but no guarantees I'll give you what you want". Screw that, I say "Nah, I'll walk you to your car."
I walk her down, say goodbye and she says "Am I ever going to see you again?" I don't say anything, and she has tears in her eyes. I felt kinda bad but still mad.
I go back up, and 15 minutes later she calls me. "I'm still in the carpark. I'm just scared of getting hurt. I've never done this before, I've never done anything outside a relationship. I've only ever had sex with 1 guy."
I say "Look. You called me because you want me to make your decision for you. I could lie to you and tell you what you want to hear right now, but you're a big girl, I'm not going to tell you what to do. You either decide to take a chance and see what happens, or you don't. Either way it's your decision, and I'm not going to make it for you."
She thinks for a bit, but still can't decide. The classic female "I don't want to be responsible for my actions" shtick. I tell her to take 10 mins to think about it and call me back.
20 mins later she calls back, this time saying, "I just don't want this to be a one night stand". I'm non-committal, basically saying "Look I don't like one night stands, but I can't tell you what will happen in future, I'm not gonna promise you anything. It's up to you if you wanna take a chance."
Eventually she says, "Ok, I want to try with you."
I say, "try what?"
Fuck, for the next THIRTY MINUTES we went back and forth with me trying to get her to say what she wanted. She came close, "I want it" but I told her she had to tell me directly what she wanted. Finally after 30 mins she says "Oh god... Ok then... I want to have sex with you."
Boom. There you go. Made the bitch take 100% responsibility for fucking me. There's no "Oh he talked me into it" or "I didn't really want to" or "one thing lead to another".
So I go get her, bring her back. Start making out then she's like "I have to take a shower..." Lol ok weirdo. Sex seems like a HUGE deal for her, like she's built it up in her mind. I tell her "It's just sex, chill".
She comes back out of the shower and this time it's 100% different. She fucking makes out with me passionately, lets me touch her tits, finger her pussy and it's on. She's moaning like crazy. I can't get my finger inside her because she's so tight, and I'm wondering if she's a virgin (she wasn't).
Take her to bed and holy fucking shit. 5 hours of INSANE SEX (with a few breaks in-between). She was so innocent at first, but really good at being submissive and following my lead. By the end i was choking her, slapping her, pulling her hair and she loved it. I had to use so much lube because I couldn't get my dick in, she was way too tight. She's a fucking sexy bitch in the bedroom, I love it.
But she's also simultaneously REALLY shy. She wouldn't talk about sex, wouldn't admit she likes sex, wouldn't talk about blowjobs, wouldn't let me see her naked after we finished having sex, didn't want me to come in the shower with her, didn't want to talk about her kinks, and lots of other stuff. She's crazy conservative with some stuff. I just forced her to talk about and do all of it anyway, I wasn't gonna take "I'm shy" and "I'm conservative" as an answer.
We go to sleep in the early hours of the morning, then wake up and fool around some more. I made her cum in 1 minute eating her out, I fucking love girls who cum easily. She was embarrassed as hell, told her she was sexy as shit.
So there you go. Being 100% honest & completely real worked for me. Who'd have thought. Laying my cards out on the table, saying "I want to have sex with you" worked. There were no games, no manipulation, just 100% directly stating what I want.
She also KNOWS I'm a player. She asked me like 50 times (no exaggeration) how many girls I'm seeing. She brought it up like every 10 minutes, slipped it into every conversation. Even said "I know you're a playboy... but I wanted to see if I could handle you." Good girl.
So fucking good. Maybe the best sex I've had. Her body is fucking nice too, she's tiny - 44kg, slim, nice tits for her size, hairy pussy (my favourite). At one point I stood up and picked her up during sex and bounced her up and down on my cock, so much fun. Like this (but standing up, not kneeling):
GOD DAMN. Good shit. I can't believe this happened.
And after she left, 2 hours later Linh the vietnamese virgin who'd never kissed came over.
I had absolutely no expectations, given it took me 3 dates just to kiss her. This was date 5. So I'm gently making out with her, but she's fucking adorable, she keeps smiling and giggling while we make out. I asked her why and she gets shy like a little girl, "It makes me smile when you kiss me". Fucking cute bitch.
I taught her how to kiss properly, how to french kiss too. She went from terrible kisser to amazing kisser in about 1 hour, I was impressed.
So I do my usual "dance" I do with shy chicks/virgins: make out for 30 seconds, pause and talk for a few minutes, make out some more, pause, make out, pause. Always seems to work well, maybe because it makes it seem like you're not too desperate. So the "last minute resistance" shit doesn't kick in because you're not forcing her too hard.
Then I put my hand over her tit over her bra. To my absolute surprise, she doesn't even flinch or move my hand away. Ended up with my hand under her shirt and bra, playing with her tits for 30 min or so. I rubbed her pussy through her pants but she only let me do that for a few seconds before pulling my hand away.
Didn't get any further than that but I'm surprised she let me play with her tits with no resistance. I'm 90% sure I'll bang her, it'll just take 7 dates lol. Afterwards she goes, "Is it ok if we only see each other once a week? Every time I see you I think about you for 3 days afterwards and I can't concentrate on my studies..." Good little asian girl focusing on her studies.
Got 2 more dates this week with new chicks, should be good.
Also just got one of my ears pierced, with a diamond stud earring. Will wear it for a bit and see if I like it.
Last night there were all these weird PUAs in the city hitting on chicks, they were so fucking strange about it. These two guys hit on this one girl (as in, both of them talking to her at the same time). They talked to her for THIRTY MINUTES, then we had to leave and they were still talking to her. How the fuck do you stand and talk to a girl for 30 minutes on an approach, wtf.
I'm so glad GLL taught me "Just go say hi to chicks". It's so much more normal than running "game" or doing "routines" any of that gay shit. So fucking retarded.
That's a fascinating story. I learn a lot from your logs, because on some of these lays you take it a lot further than I do. I often let my ego get in the way and stop trying with girls if they give me too much grief.
My favorite part of the whole entry is where you made her take full responsibility for her decision to have sex with you. If more guys did that, the world would be a better place.
The more I think about it, the more I'm willing to attribute most of female behavior to nurture rather than nature. When you get away with avoiding responsibility for your entire childhood and adolescence, it makes sense that you'd remain the same as an adult.
You are the hero this city needs.
Count: 104 (30 from cold approach since finding GLL)
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^ That image is hilarious, because every girl I date, when she says "What do you do?" I say "I have 3 jobs".
I tell them about my 2 main jobs, they always ask "what's the third?" I make them guess, and they spend the night driving themselves crazy over it. At the end of the date they beg me to tell them, but I say, "I'll tell you next time."
If I see them for a 2nd date, I let them guess a bit more, then I whisper in their ear, "I am the batman". They get so mad it's hilarious.
"I often let my ego get in the way and stop trying with girls if they give me too much grief."
Me too. But I was doing it on EVERY girl and suddenly it's been 6 months with no new lays from cold approach.
So I figured I'd try the exact opposite, break my own rules about not waiting more than 3 dates for sex, etc. I'll do this for a while and then probably go back to screening a little harder (but not as hard as I was before, that was retarded.)
Agree. Girls only do as much as they've been allowed to get away with. I spent the night forcing her to take responsibility for everything, and by the end she got the picture and acted a whole lot more mature.
Bad Idea Bear wrote: The more I think about it, the more I'm willing to attribute most of female behavior to nurture rather than nature. When you get away with avoiding responsibility for your entire childhood and adolescence, it makes sense that you'd remain the same as an adult.
It's still biology, it all stems from that pussy becoming precious when it hits puberty, and from there on they are always on the receiving end of every relationship, thus making them feel like they have no accountability for every interaction they have with people. It's still guys' duty to keep them accountable for their actions, dating would be easier if more guys did it.
Good job on they lay...I've been there and it's very painful to go through all that LMR for that long.
Yes, it's funny the way you played the game with her. But 2 things for me:
1. I'm not sure I care enough about playing that power game with a woman. I'm fully willing to make that decision (and have many times) for a woman. When she says " I dunno", I grab her hand and take her straight to my room. In fact, I find it best to remove all opportunity for them to "think about it" at that point. No easing into it and warming her up. No, the decision is made, we're going to my room, NOW.
2. If I don't feel motivated enough to do #1, then I don't have time to pussyfoot around with "Maybe, I dunno." I'd rather just say BYE, and find another girl who's DTF. That's part of what the extra decade of experience has brought me. Although, I'm not dealing with young 20's women either. Experienced women don't tend to pull that kind of shit.
I agree with BIB, I've been thinking this for a while.. The fact that from age 12 onwards most girls are surrounded by sycophants means they never develop the social awareness or the need to take any responsibility for their actions or their situation. Hence the 'grown kid' thing.
Fat girls are some of the nicest people, and ugly girls tend to actually be quite mature (and interesting). They had less of the advantage so had to grow up.
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