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I was reading your post about how you pass on average girls. I haven't been approaching girls, however, I do meet at least a girl a month from other sources. Usually, I have the same line of thought. There's another thought that holds me back as well, I don't know how to feel about this one, I know these are girls that I wouldn't even consider for long term relationship, so I feel guilty about asking them out on the prospect of just getting laid. It feels wrong. That's something I still can't get over. I was getting some action from my neighbor, but the last time we met up, she mentioned 'love' and I haven't visited her since, that legit scared me, I've had a couple of bad experiences with women having the love bug. I think she's upset about how I don't visit her anymore, I walked past her the other day and said hi, she pretty much ignored me. FUCK!! I hate that so much. How girls use that to manipulate guys... they try to make you feel like you're a piece of shit for trying to get laid, when I've been curved by girls before because they lost interest.
Ganso, 100% same boat. I feel guilty knowing they want boyfriends in the long-run (especially the average ones) and you are simply being a manipulative bastard, in this case we are intentionally going after the lowest common denominator on purpose. But I agree with Andy. They don't put us first, either. They are USING us for sex, to get a relationship...but I still do feel guilty...fucking conundrum.
One thing I strongly disagree with, though; if I fucked my neighbour and then she stopped talking with me because I stopped visiting her after the word "love", which signals she is trying to get over you or doesn't want to speak with you, I WOULD BE OVER THE GOD DAMNED MOON!!! Got away scott free. Be happy man.
Usually about 90% or so of the women i approach with my fellow wing for daytime pickup have legit boyfriends or are "seeing someone". The return of investment is rather low. I like to think about it nowadays input over output and how many hours of my time gets thrown away to chase women. I would typically blast out sometimes 20 approaches on a good day if i decide to lower my standards to approach both above average and average women. See how you guys go. Remember to set your OWN standards and don't get too carried away with the scaling bullshit. If the girl is personally attractive to you go for it. If she's not, then don't approach her. Simple really.. but that's just me anyways
Okay. Too many unread posts in the last pages. So I will try my best to comment on everything mentioned.
Regarding not approaching average girls it all comes down to WHAT DO YOU WANT from her and/or what do you expect for investing your time in approaching her. Once you know what you want, you shouldn't unwaver from that.
A lot of guys will just approach women to see where it goes, without having a gameplan or a specific destination point. Do you just want to fuck her? Do you just want some attention and a girl texting you nonstop? Do you just want to ignore the average girls because you just want the hot ones for social proof?
No answer is wrong. It all boils down on what DO YOU WANT. Some girls I just want to bang because their personality is not very appealing, others I just want to bang and cuddle and others I want to bang and go on dates because I like them for more than it.
Now how does this relate to average girls? Well. I want my "more than casual sex" girls - girls who are like a serious girlfriend but in a open relationship - to be 8 or above. Meaning super hot. But thats me. Thats why I don't approach average girls anymore, my stomatch cannot fake attraction.
Sure I might approach some 6s and 7s but they will have to have a very very good personality, which is very rare.
So conclusion: It all comes down to what you want. If you just want some sex and thats all, then sure lower your standards. But I'd rather prefer sex with a "girlfriend" material girl than sex with any girl. And for me "girlfriend" material is 8 or above.
Now fucking girls who expect you to be their boyfriend and you promise them or trick them that you will be their boyfriend is bad because you end up in manipulative head-games and guilt WILL follow you.
My recommendation for this is to state your intentions and be honest without saying directly the truth. Something like "Listen, I think you are very cute and I think we connect really well. I don't like to label relationships as boyfriend and girlfriend because it kills the vibe. I think we should just go with the flow and enjoy the moment".
Say it like you really mean it. A lot of girls will feel guilty for the boyfriendish thing and they will erase it from their mind. I tried this yersterday and it worked great.
Good shit, Dekk. Really good shit. Thanks for writing it.
"Do what you want to do" has become my philosophy. And I've spent the last 3 days thinking nonstop about what I want from all this. I've done some deep soul-searching.
What I want is to get laid. To rack up the numbers, to get to 15 cold approach lays and then 30 and 50 and see what happens. I want this more than anything else; more than retention, more than having "loyal" girlfriends, more than getting "quality" girls or hot girls.
I want to play the numbers game and get laid a TONNE, and then see how I feel after that. Maybe (probably) I'll want something different one day. But for now I want to rack up a large cold approach lay count.
I'm willing to do whatever it takes. I'll bang average chicks, just no fatties. I'll go on 10 dates with a girl if it takes that long to shag. I wont lie to them, but I wont necessarily tell them everything (unless they directly ask).
I want to get laid. A lot.
Went out today with an average girl... but holy fuck she put in effort. Tiny top with her tits hanging out, heaps of makeup, she looked like she was going clubbing (it was daytime though). Held her hand but she pulled away immediately so I just gently touched for rest of date. Didn't try to kiss, will next time.
Tonight I'm going to the cinemas with the shy vietnamese chick who claims she's never dated anyone. I would NEVER normally go to the cinemas with a girl but fuck it, I'm committed to seeing every girl through to the end (bang), even if it takes 10 dates. And although she hasn't kissed me yet, she's super affectionate, which makes up for it a little. At least it's clear she's into me.
Tomorrow Im seeing another girl, will try to shag.
I'm taking middays and nights off now, so each day I have 2 slots I can fill with dates/approaching/trying to get laid. I will go hard.
FUCK YEAH. Tonight I made out 4 times with the Vietnamese chick (the girl who wouldn't kiss me on the first 2 dates).
The second time I kissed her tonight, she said "I'm sorry I'm so bad at kissing". She probably is telling the truth about not having dated much (I agree with BIB that she's probably lying about never having dated ANYONE, but I do believe she's inexperienced). She acted like a high school girl does; everything seemed new and novel to her. She kept wanting to hold hands, and she'd look at our hands together and smile, it was cute. She also kept trying different ways of holding hands (eg fingers interlocked vs non-interlocked) and seemed fascinated by it LOL. She kept cuddling up to me and hugging me randomly. I also made her kiss me twice in public, which she didn't want to do the other 2 dates.
Also spent the whole night feeling her up (over her clothes). She lifts, and has abs (I could feel 'em through her shirt), she's toned as fuck. Sexy little thing, only weighs 45kg.
I can't believe I had dropped her just for not kissing me. I basically gave up, telling myself "If she hasn't kissed me after 2 dates, I'll never bang her". In a way, I guess I was trying to avoid failure by being a coward and giving up. I've dropped so many girls now (at least 15 in the last 6 months, and more before that) for equally retarded reasons.
I will bang this girl, though it'll probably take 8 dates or so (tonight was the 3rd date).
Tomorrow night I'm seeing another girl I had previously dropped. She was really happy when I messaged her. Will bring her back to my place and try to bang (I already made out with her twice on the 1st date).
I'm going to get my 5th cold approach lay, and then really get things moving along.
Damn, didn't bang her. Still an interesting night.
So this was the vietnamese girl that my buddy Mike also dated, the one I said I wasn't going to see again because there were a few to many red flags on the first date. She just acted REALLY weird, and awkward, and did a few other strange things. It's hard to explain over the net but if you saw it in person you'd say "Wow, she's weird/awkward". So I dropped her... but then after I had my little epiphany the other day, I messaged her just to see what'd happen.
She was WAY different this time, like a completely different person. She must have been nervous or something the first time, because she was way more relaxed and not at all weird. It kinda caught me off guard how cool she was this time around.
We met at night near my place, took her for a walk and ended up taking her geocaching (a game where you find hidden treasures other people have hidden all over the world). She had no idea it existed and she had this "oh my god my mind is blown" look on her face when I explained it to her. She kept saying how cool it is that there's this secret game most people don't know about, even though it's right there out in the open in the real world. She was absolutely fascinated by it. Most girls say "oh that's cool" but this chick was more enthusiastic than I've ever seen in my life. She had this huge dopey grin on her face for most of the night lol. She kept grabbing my arm and saying "Andy, I can't believe people do this, this is amazing!" lol.
She also acted super enthusiastic when I showed her my photography, and when I told her about my other job, and when I took her to my favourite spot along the river. She was enthusiastic about everything, and it's hard not to have that rub off on you. I love girls like that.
We ended up just chilling and talking for a while, again I was caught off guard by how cool she is. Just a really genuine person. Made out with her all through the night too, but for some reason she's a terrible kisser (like, REALLY awful) but I don't think she's inexperienced. Maybe she is? I have no idea.
At midnight it's time for her to catch her train, but I'm like "Yo come back to mine for a bit I'll show you a magic trick". She was down, so I take her back, make out with her and she's into it, but she's also super wary of the time, she did not want to miss her train and be stuck.... but she ended up missing it anyway because she misread the timetable lol. I tell her she can crash here, she wants to take an uber, eventually I talk her into staying.
We make out more, in my bed, but she's falling asleep... like literally falling asleep. As much as I wanna bang the shit outta her, I realise it isn't going to happen so I go to sleep.
Ended up walking her back to the station in the early morning, right as the sunrise was coming up. There were also some hot air balloons drifting on the horizon. Romantic as fuckkkkk.
She asked me a question only two other girls have ever asked me in my entire life: "Do you love your life?" I love that question, because nobody ever asks it, and very few people ever stop and ask themselves if they're happy. I grabbed her, kissed her passionately and said "Fuck yes."
I'd have missed out on all this if I'd dropped her. God damn. I think back to all the other girls I dropped and I wonder how many awesome experiences I denied myself.
I'll invite her round to mine and push hard to bang next time.
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