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I had a similar experience going crazy in a "good" corporate job. It took all my progress away from me and left me a wreck... it really felt like it stole my personality. That bad and it sounds like what you're describing there. Right now I'm a mechanic and I work a physical job and I like it... 1. I work out everyday and am in great shape 2. I see the progress on the boats we build and fix so thats satisfying. 3. Its all bros who work there and there is no workplace girl drama or PC shit. Most of the guys are cool a legit workplace environment where you can say whatever the fuck you want. I can't emphasize how nice it is to work in a masculine no pussy shit tolerated environment.
Especially if it's not forever maybe consider a job like that... construction, trades, wearhouse, garage/shop, supply store whatever.
Once I dropped what society thought (I mean I have a lot of degrees and work as a mechanic) I found out I kinda like the work my grandpa did. That's me... maybe thats you also
I'm willing to try one more sales job, but it'd have to have more freedom. I've applied to a couple of art galleries - I'd fucking love something like that because you get to talk to people, be social, make commission, enjoy the day - you're not just stuck in endless copy-paste calls.
Retail has always been good to me - I've worked it for about 7 years (mostly as a supervisor/manager in supermarkets and a department store). I fucking love that shit - I love mentoring staff and training them up, I love talking to customers, I love when customers have complaints and things go wrong because I can get in there and fix it and turn things around.
As I said though long-term mission is to make money from helping guys/being a mentor. Whether that's teaching guys how to get laid, or selling Tinder/BDSM/3some guides online, etc - I don't mind. I just don't ever want to quit helping guys self-improve, and I want to be able to make a small living from it (enough to pay the bills would make me happier than anything).
Re: training I'm in my 4th year but only the 2nd year of actually training properly (with a strength coach, eating properly, getting enough sleep, etc). Thanks for the push mate, can't wait til it all comes together like you said.
Yeah I like switching jobs - I can't stand working somewhere where I'm unhappy. Applied for 12 jobs today, will apply to 10-15 minimum every day.
Yeah you nailed it - there's nothing more to learn at this current job. I'd rather avoid bartending (I don't do well being up late at night) but I'd definitely recommend it to anyone who's a night owl.
Yeah mechanic would be a sick job. You're constantly working on projects, improving them over time until they're totally fixed. Extremely satisfying.
I like retail for the same reason. I like to get in there, retrain all the staff and make them all awesome, change policies to improve customer service, rewrite the training material for new staff, work on making the store look better, etc. There's something fun as hell about having mini-projects in your job - and it's something I'm sorely missing at my current sales job.
I took your advice and applied to a couple warehouse jobs (doing "pick packing"). I know I'd love that shit as I'd be on my feet getting exercise the whole time, and warehouses usually have pretty chill blokes working there.
If I were you, I'd go after software developers who are completely socially awkward. Major pain while flush with cash.
That'd be your ideal coaching clients. Best to go with one offer and one focus. If you start coaching all of that kind of things, then it'll be harder for someone to take you up on that. It's like that cliche doctor vs surgeon advice you here.
Like if you are in dire need of brain surgery you're not going to a general doctor. You're going for the specialists.
Getting chicks. Fucking them. Tying them up. I'd say you would satisfy many a wet dream if you helped one of those guys get that. Even just once! Real talk.
What can I say, just got my first job at a KFC two months ago. I guess you should make a plan and then do everything you can to bring it to fruition. Are you looking for money? Are you looking for a job you like? How long are you willing to do a job you don't like?
Also, I think jobs are not something we should necessarily like; a lot of times its just what we got to do if we want society to feed us in return. That said, I guess there is a limit and some jobs can really drive you crazy, so you got to have a fixed objective that marks when you leave it.
To perform optimally, and be the most effective at reaching your goals, you need your mental health as good as possible. While being in a shitty position in life can be motivating in the sense, that you don't have any other choice (fire underneath you), it is also extremely draining, and limits how much work you can put into your own business. Both physical and emotional stress takes away your resources that you could otherwise put in your business.
I did this for years, having my business as my life goal, which helped me push through years of feeling like shit. But if you the choice most definitely try to find a job that you don't hate. Side note: The more money you have, the faster you can get your business on its feet (money can be used for advertising, outsourcing, scaling in general) so I would highly suggest keeping a job.
"Motivation is fleeting and easy to rely on because it requires no concentrated effort to get. Motivation comes to you, you don't even have to chase after it.
Discipline is reliable, motivation is fleeting. The question isn't how to keep yourself motivated, it's how to train yourself to work without it."
killtheinnerloser wrote: Ok, I'm going insane at the sales job and I'm going to quit next week. I'm good at it - Wed I got 5 sales (best in the company), thurs and fri I got 2 sales each day. Im top 3 without really trying. I'm clearly good at sales.
But this particular job isn't a good sales job. We cold call people on the phone and just read straight from a script, with no deviation allowed at all. Takes me about 8 minutes to read the script, and I have to do that multiple times an hour, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. I can feel my mind starting to break - I can't handle the repetition.
There's no new skills to learn (I picked it all up in the first few days), there's no new challenges, there's nothing new to learn and no progression in the company. Even the team leaders still have to make calls all day and they only earn an extra $1.50 per hour - so it's not much of an incentive.
Can you guys please tell me: am I being a little bitch? I really can feel my mind starting to unravel every minute I'm sitting there repeating the same script over and over and over again. I had to take a break the other day and go sit in the toilet for 10 minutes just to amp myself up enough to get back on the phone.
I'm also drained after work and have NO desire to write articles, or hit on girls, and I've skipped the gym every day this week. Even started drinking last night (I don't drink normally).
Money is tight (I have debt) and this job pays all my bills. But I feel like my body/mind is screaming at me to quit and find another job (or 2 jobs). I'd be a million times happier working in fucking mcdonalds or a supermarket or doing data entry or some shit.
Andy, I'm kinda sad that you're going through this with your sales job.
Now, don't misunderstand me. I'm not feeling sorry for you. It's just sad that with your success in dating and the skills you've developed (skills other people would kill to have) you're stuck in a job that doesn't fulfill you. I know you could be doing much better man.
I'm helping a friend right now with his dating blog (it's in Greek) and I've also used my Greek fitness blog to make a living so here are some suggestions to help you:
* Pause article writing. It's slow. And since you're depended on Google's algorithm, you're their bitch - a single change can throw you to the bottom of search results.
* If you still wanna blog, let me introduce you to content multipurposing. Take older posts you wrote here, edit them, add thoughts and use them as articles for your blog. Then, you can record yourself doing a video on the topic and upload it on youtube. Then, take the audio and upload it on iTunes (not sure if they're gonna allow it but you can find other platforms as well). If it makes financial sense, you can switch this tactic by recording a video first. Have it transcribed and there's a blog post. Again, take the audio and upload it. Each piece of content should have a call to action to either sign up for your email list (I suggest this) or at least to message you for your services.
* You mentioned something about writing a book. A book on getting laid via tinder would smash it, since you have so much proof. The problem is that the market has already seen such a product. Thankfully, you also have the BDSM angle. So perhaps a "Tinder Guide For The BDSM Connoisseur" would be a hit. And, it would open the doors for promoting your coaching. Me and my friend have seen that people who invest in information (books, dvds, audiobooks) first, make great coaching clients.
* Let me hit you now with my wildest idea. I remember you saying that you're an extrovert (you felt amazing when you went from working from home, to working at Starbucks) You can approach a variety of dating coaches and ask them to promote you to their email lists. Promote what exactly? Well, you can hold a seminar on tinder dating. You can help how to take great photos (perhaps you can even upsell them on YOU taking those photos for them)...critique their conversations and give them a game plan. Of course, you'd give those coaches a cut, but who cares? It's the fastest way to getting started. Plus, if the attendees are interested in coaching, you'll make good money on the back end.
Anyways, those were just a few thoughts. If you'd like us to discuss even further, let me know. I'm not gonna pitch anything. It's just that I got inspired by you a lot (I banged 5 girls in a month via tinder after reading your log) and now that I'm seeing a chance to give back, I'm thinking "why not?"
30 years old
32 lays more than your mom (1 pre GLL)
@crisis_overcomer: seriously good suggestions. I've copied down everything you wrote.
Re: book, yeah I agree Tinder books are saturated. I'm still gonna write one aimed at GLL guys, because at the moment the only official guide to online dating we have is Rooster's outdated POF/OkCupid guide. We're letting newbies down by not having a solid tinder guide.
I'm also working on a BDSM book (newbies guide to getting started in BDSM), as well as a third book - a newbies guide to having 3somes.
This week I'm working in a warehouse, just for something different - it's something I've never done before. It's menial work but the people are cool and the pay is decent. Plus I look sexy in my high vis vest:
On thursday I'll be doing a trial as a labourer/tiler, for semi-decent pay. Doing it mostly because it'll be an easy way to lose weight/stay lean, and because my dad has always been super handy around the house and I was always somewhat jealous of him. He built 2 garages by himself, a shed, renovated 2 houses, built an extension on the 2nd house, built 2 driveways (bricklaying), dug trenches and laid down all the reticulation (sprinkler system for watering grass/garden), did all the tiling for several rooms, put insulation in the roof, built 5 surfboards completely from scratch, fixed 2 cars, fixed 1 motorcycle, made his own beer, and some other shit I've probably forgotten. Needless to say I've always felt inferior, so I'm super keen to do something with my hands for once.
Written a tonne of articles in the last 2 weeks, I've just about hit my goal of 30 total articles.
Writing is becoming very easy now, I'm shocked how quickly it went from an absolute hellish chore to an easy daily habit. Many days I've published 3 articles in 1 day, and I'm writing at least a little bit every single day. More importantly, writing has become fun. I would be in heaven if I could ever make an income from my writing - this is one of my most important goals.
There's still a serious lack of quality tinder guides.
Just go to reddit.com/r/tinder and find the profile reviews. Every guy is smiling, trying to be cute, wearing graphic T's, sandals and a face that says "I like compooters". You try tell them you gotta look like you kill people professionally but they just don't buy it. Also all the terrible openers and trying to be cute-funny. There's a huge sub culture built around fucking up tinder that currently has no alternative.
You could also trying leveraging r/theredpill. Those guys are desperate for real answers as all the endorsed contributors are full of shit.
Welcome to the brotherhood of the Aussie high visibility vest..lmao
I swear you guys love making people wear those every opportunity you get. I've had to wear those just visiting food manufacturing places and coffee bagging plants.. wtf.
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