TOPIC: Default pic is crucial. (Before & After example w results)

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Left is before, right is after. Before picture got replies from girls I consider under my league looks-wise. Hot girls responded rarely, and the ones that did asked about work and other boyfriend-material subjects. After picture has a good reply rate with hot girls (30+ replies in 24 hours) and these conversations are flirtatious, not boyfriend-material.

I want to explain the difference in these pictures, so you don't waste your time like I did.

-The angle. First pic is down looking up at me. This makes my body look wider and less lean, and it makes it look like I have a double chin. Second pic is eye-level. Here I have a better shoulder to hip ratio, and my jawline looks much more defined. If you're one of these guys that can't seem to take a good picture, watch this video. It's 15 min long but you don't have to watch the whole thing to understand what he's saying:


-Style. In the first pic I'm wearing flannel. These are big in my area with hipster girls, but the v-neck casts a wider net in terms of "types" of girls. Hipster/preppy/whatever girls all recognize a v-neck as being trendy. It shows off my tattoos and doesn't make my body look frumpy like the first pics. I've got a vip wristband in the second pic (the type from a club or bar) that hints at my lifestyle. Also a lot of girls say the like my phone. I don't get it but there it is.

-Filter. They make your photo look hip. Use any of the default iphone filters, it doesn't matter which one.

-Secondary pics. These aren't as important but they seal the deal. One of my pics is me shirtless playing the drums at a gig. A lot of girls say they don't like shirtless pics (the same girls that say not looking for a hookup, so they don't feel slutty) but having a reason to be shirtless (beach, drums, whatever) looks smoother than a shirtless bathroom selfie. That said, if you're fucking ripped it won't matter either way. If you don't have any muscles and/or have a high bodyfat percentage, get on a starting strength program. It will make your body and even face look better.

As promised here's my results in a 24 hour period. This is from okcupid:


I use "Hey, nice face." as my opener. With the old pic I got a lot of bs replies. "Does that ever work." Or just "lol." New pic girls tell me I'm hot. Two girls I forgot to reply to, and they each sent me a second message basically saying "Sorry if what I said was weird. Let's keep talking, please approve of me." Several of these have progressed to getting numbers. Lots of shit falls through with my schedule, but if I get an internet girl out on a date I'll fuck her 9 times out of 10.

Best wishes.

Also, very importantly:
2nd pic has much better facial hair. head hair, lighting.

Awesome man! You motivated me to start a POF account too. Update us on what happens with these girls

Great post. Thanks!!! This is the kind of simple things that will help everyone.

Maybe its okcupid is better. POF seems to really suck dick now, and not literally lol. Literally all whales and rarely reply

Awesome post.

Its great to know that a bathroom selfie does work if done correctly. Gonna let my facial hair grow a bit more and try this in a few days.

On PoF I mostly see overweight girls, ghetto chicks and prostitutes who work through the internet. Tinder and OKC are your best bet.

This is gold. Also an improvement over the advice Ethan x and I have been posting here basically suggesting guys watch the "All about the jaw line" and all "about the a squinch"

Someone sticky this, the hip filters are def. in

Yo Johntron, freaking awesome stuff man. Going to try this out myself on PoF and OKCupid and see what happens. Thanks for the heads up.