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I am all for credibility but if there is a chance for me to learn something then why not? If you can't get laid that much past the age of 30, then I need to know this shit, please let an expert comment. Not an expert on this so I definitely want experts to comment but this thread in its very essence was a theory thread, it says "brainstorm" so that is what I took it as.
Now I do think I know a lot about career and the corporate world being that I worked for a pretty good company (top 20 employer list caliber) and will likely head to an even better company. I can comment a lot about that. Almost everyone was in their 20s, out of college and had some good work experience coming out.
Depends on how you define great first, you won't be working on Wall Street, for a big 4 strategy consulting firm (MBB) or doing sales for Oracle and SAP if you slacked off in your 20s. I went to a pretty good school and have a lot of friends who are doing well in these careers in their 20s. Age is literally everything to the household names in business that pay you a shit ton, they want you when you are young and hungry so they can overwork you and they know you will listen to orders.
As for starting a business, NOT that easy if you want to be successful, you need some work experience to get an idea of how these things work unless you are a Mark Zuckerberg level genius.
I am not saying it can't be done if you adjust your expectations, luck out or get into the healthcare field where graduate studies and professional school can net you a six figure job but you do have a ceiling there.
colorado88 wrote: Just lie about employment gaps. They're very unlikely to find out.
If you lie and say you worked for a certain company, they WILL call your references. All good and decent enough companies will check references and call them to see if you actually worked at the company. I've had to be a reference for friends and former coworkers that went off to other companies, the person that called me was getting right down to the nitty gritty to make sure that they were making the right choice in hiring.
It is really hard to get away with a lie since companies these days check references a lot more due to the fact that they do not want to deal with a hiring mistake, it is extremely costly for them in the long-term.
Now if you are willing to join a startup that you don't even know is going anywhere (likely hasn't been past the Serie A funding), then they will not check but life is so uncertain as they can go bankrupt anytime.
These days with LinkedIn and how much data companies have at their disposal, it is extremely tough to get away with a lie.
Just fudge the dates to cover the gap, or create a fake job reference to fill in the middle. Checking references is kind of a joke. It's like a formality that some companies do. I've never had one of my references called before.
colorado88 wrote: Just fudge the dates to cover the gap, or create a fake job reference to fill in the middle. Checking references is kind of a joke. It's like a formality that some companies do. I've never had one of my references called before.
What industry are you in then?
I am in the corporate world and they always call references. In fact, a lot of companies will want to talk to your former boss to get an idea of how you were as a worker. Most decent to great companies always check references and a lot of them will even hold it against you for not having a LinkedIn account, pretty hard to lie on there.
Bad Idea Bear wrote: Yes, of course you can easily get laid over 30. In fact, it'll probably be easier to fuck girls in their 20's when you're 30+
The world is filled to the fucking brim with 30-something guys fucking young girls. I plan to be fucking girls in their 20's into my 50's.
As for the career stuff. Man. No you don't need experience in your area of business before you start. I literally just started a service business for an industry that I knew NOTHING about.
The fact is, just like girls, you can easily build a business/career in your 30's, if you actually try.
This forum needs more guys like you.
On the topic of guys getting laid in their 30’s, there was a user here (klbsa) who was 39 and had a steady rotation of fuck buddies through online dating, and I think he mentioned that lots of the girls were in their 20’s. This guy was in seriously impressive shape and didn’t seem to have to work very hard to get laid. I think he got banned awhile back for promoting his website though... too bad. This forum needs more role models to emulate.
My point is simple. Money is money and pussy is pussy. One doesn't lead to the other (they lead you in opposite directions). If you want pussy, go get pussy. If you want money, go get money. Sure you can get rich in your 20s and then fuck lots of girls in your 30s. That's basically the track I'm on (I'm not "rich", but I established my career first). But I had to beat approach anxiety (by walking up to well over 1000 girls). I have to each grilled chicken and broccoli and lift weights. I have to buy lots of clothes and pay attention to style. I have to spend a whole afternoon setting up a fancy shot of myself with a camera to put on Tinder. And I have to walk up to random girls as often as I can, hit on them, and get rejected 90+% of the time. It's the exact same process as if I had done it in my early 20s.
Look good and talk to girls. Don't over-complicate it, especially if you think you'll end up with some magic formula to get around those two things. Like people who think if they pick the right super complicated exercise routine they'll get big without having to do heavy squats and benches. It's all just avoidance.
As for not being able to start a career and gaps in your resume, LOL my dad always told me that. You're in sales, right? That might be why. I, like colorado, am in tech. Resume fluffing is widespread with consulting agencies (I only recommend it if your tech skills are genuinely far above what your experience would suggest, you'll need to pass technical interviews, and then actually perform on the job). Either way, if you spend six months building an iPhone app on your own that isn't completely basic (doesn't need to be original or make money, it's just to show you know what you're doing), I'm way more interested in you than college grads. It's about skills. I want people with skills, that most people won't bother to ever acquire. Mike Rowe talks about this. Almost every field that has technical skill requirements is suffering a huge shortage of labor.
Sometimes this forum needs Bad Idea Bear just to get everyone's morale up and get guys marching, this thread was taking one real depressing turn until he stepped in but I thought more about what Sweatervest said and now that he clarified it, makes more sense to me as well.
I work in a corporate role and I have the weekends to be free to do what I like and it is not super-demanding. Despite all that, I think about the friend I had in college who works as a bartender and it does ring true for me. I might be making more money than him but he is still going to get girls because at the end of the day, it is all about access and status to a girl in a world she is interested in. Sure I can go out and game girls at a bar or nightclub, I've done it, but he still has a leg up on me because he is the bartender.
IMO, experts here correct me if I am wrong, a model will STILL fuck a photographer before she fucks a banker or accountant simply because that photographer has access to her and status in her world.
The reason you see these rich Wall Street dudes marry flat ugly women or at best be a meal ticket for a hot girl past her prime is because they don't have as much access in their lives.
Its more about access and status than it is about money itself because hot girls want "cool" guys as Chris said. They are all always chasing some sort of cool or trendy dude to brag to their friends about and a lot of rich guy jobs like banking are just "boring". That just goes back to what I said at the start of the thread, status in nightlife or modeling industry would surely help a guy out with getting hot girls based on what OP was aiming for.
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