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Struggling with seeing women as open to casual relationships 29 Aug 2019 01:17 #320746

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I’m really struggling with believing that women genuinely want a casual sexual relationship. In my mind, I just don’t see how women would be interested in one night stands or ongoing non-committed relationships.

I don’t really have any evidence that women want these types of relationships -- none of my male or female friends have talked about it. In all of the relationships I see and have experience with, men and women are only committed, monogamous, and longer term (2+months). I’ve had causal sex with only two women (both were unattractive and I didn't see them again), but it still feels like a very rare thing -- especially for attractive women who have options.

This is impacting my AA program since I feel as though I’m wasting women’s time with the drills. I’m wasting their time so that I can run drills, so that I can overcome my AA, so that I can achieve casual sex -- which is a selfish goal and not really possible with attractive women anyway.

Any advice or perspective you guys could give would be appreciated.
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Struggling with seeing women as open to casual relationships 29 Aug 2019 01:43 #320748

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Struggling with seeing women as open to casual relationships 29 Aug 2019 02:43 #320749

First of all, you ARE wasting womens' time with the drills.

The purpose of the drills is not to get laid or get dates. You're supposed to do the drill and leave. It doesn't matter what thoughts are going through your head.

You're supposed to be uncomfortable. That's why day 1 is asking for the time. If you go out and cant do a drill, that's fine. Go home. Then get up and go out and try again.

This kind of question won't help you. Get your ass out there and follow the instructions, soldier.
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Struggling with seeing women as open to casual relationships 29 Aug 2019 02:45 #320750

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You just need more experience mate. Theres a lot of evidence on this site in the log posts that contradicts your claim here.

My version of this was I didnt think daytime cold approach would actually work for me - despite the ton of evidence it does all over GLL. Yeah I was very wrong.

Even if attractive women you want arent up for casual sex(which isnt true) it would still be worth trying to remove your own fear of going for it.
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Struggling with seeing women as open to casual relationships 29 Aug 2019 04:26 #320754

Spend 25 minutes doing this:

Swipe through 200 girls on tinder, reading each one's bio. See how many talk about casual sex, or "Not looking for a relationship", or "non-monogamous" or "poly" or often much more explicit than that. That'll tell you there's plenty of girls on Tinder open to it.

Here's 3 examples I pulled up for you in like 1 minute of swiping:




^The peace emoji is sexual. Same as the eggplant one.


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Struggling with seeing women as open to casual relationships 29 Aug 2019 06:23 #320756

I am familiar with the thoughts you describe. This type of thinking has held me back many times. I have tried to build some kind of a relationship thinking that's what the girl wants, even though both she and I just wanted casual sex. This has led to the girl getting turned off. Thinking too much about what the girl wants instead of what I want, stems from my fear of getting rejected, but it actually just leads to more rejection. All these types of beliefs are limiting since we make them true by our actions. That's why it's useful to choose to believe in things that are more suitable for your goals, and seek to reinforce those beliefs instead of dwelling in negative stuff.
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Struggling with seeing women as open to casual relationships 30 Aug 2019 13:13 #320807




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Struggling with seeing women as open to casual relationships 30 Aug 2019 18:23 #320818

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Some women are lifelong sluts who just like casual sex. But most women go through periods of slutitude that cum and go. :silly:
-Girl at college, even with a LTR will want to fuck all the new guys in her world.

-Anytime a woman has a breakup or divorce they often just want a good fuck instead of a new LTR

-Some women will find you fuckable but not dateable. Twice, I've had a Jewish woman pick me up at the bar and turn
into a fuckbuddy. I think they love that I look like their German oppressors. But as a Gentile, there's no way they would bring me home to their parents.

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