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@unbreakable and Toroidal.
Nah I disagree, I think there's a logical amount of hatred that goes towards women. We get sad and frustrated when we can't have what we want (in our case it's pussy).
And pussy is fairly difficult to acquire, and the market seems against males at times, as far more effort goes into males getting laid than it does females getting laid.
I dont usually make Redpill comments but I understand this subject fairly well. I'd be a liar and we'd all be liars if we said we have never felt moderate to extreme resentment to the pussy we've been denied countless times
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- Bang at least 5 girls from cold approach in 2017: 1/5
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Height: 5'6" Age: 22 Lays: 12
Every time I feel myself beginning to resent girls for having the easier position in the sexual marketplace, I remind myself of this graph:
I think of the amazing time I have, the incredible experiences that I've had and will be able to for the next several DECADES with so many interesting and lovely women. Because of women (and being a man myself), I am truly happy to be alive. There are advantages to being a girl but there's not much for you to do except try to lock someone down when you turn 28. I wouldn't trade being a guy for anything.
forevermirin wrote: If I were you, I'd drop pick up. Drop it completely. Then I'd severely limit body building and the guitar thing because you just won't have enough time when you have a job. I promise you 100% that unless you focus on finding love, you will not be happy. Relationships aren't for everyone, but you clearly want it badly.
Well, I haven't been doing any pick-up for about 5 months, which is the time I've been sober, which has resulted in pretty much zero female contact. So clearly simply dropping pick-up is NOT the solution. I don't really have anywhere to meet women, and in social circles I'm completely clueless as to what to do, so the only way I can get laid is by, in fact, doing pick-up stuff. Besides, I did achieve several long-standing releationships by means of it so realistically there shouldn't be any reason why not to do it again.
I want a lot of things badly but I also need to accept that I can't have everything I want.
25 y/o virgin before GLL
Toroidal wrote: I love women, I never went through any sort of hatred stage. They make my life so much better, give me something to do. Also, with the whole men having to be the ones to take action, I do not understand the issue with that. Isn't that THE POINT? Complaining about that is almost like going to a museum and complaining about looking at art. Like, the you're defeating the entire purpose of the man/woman relationship if you want the woman to do things for you.
Now that you mention this, I didn't actually hate women at all when I was doing the AA program as a virgín. I was just so amazed that someone would show any interest towards me and was grateful if some girl stopped to tell me the time. I had a friend at the time who was more advanced in the pick-up scene and a well-respected member of that time's GLL community, and I was distraught by his cynical, women-hating attitude. I wished I could give him some of my youthful vigor. I kept seeing him get amazing results with women only to not even care, and he would only focus on his failures. Fuck man, how the roles change. I've become exactly like that.
The only other thing I can think of is I was juiced up to the gills with maximum dose anti-depressants, so I was simply less depressed at the time. But I'm really anti-medication so I don't wanna take them even if I'd feel better on them.
25 y/o virgin before GLL
I think I found the answer to my own question by once again reading some recovery literature. I'd like to quote something that I feel applies to myself 100%:
Most children, through experiences over a period of time, come to realize that the outside
world cannot provide all their wants and needs. They begin to supplement what is given to
them with their own efforts. As their dependency on people, places, and things decreases they
begin to look to themselves more and more. They become more self-sufficient and learn that
happiness and contentment come from within. Most continue to mature; they recognize and
accept their strengths, weaknesses, and limitations. At some point, they usually seek the help of
a Power greater than themselves to provide the things they cannot provide for themselves. For
most people, growing up is a natural process.
As addicts, however, we seem to falter along the way. We never seem to outgrow the self-
centeredness of the child. We never seem to find the self-sufficiency that others do. We continue
to depend on the world around us and refuse to accept that we will not be given everything. We
become self-obsessed; our wants and needs become demands. We reach a point where
contentment and fulfillment are impossible. People, places, and things cannot possibly fill the
emptiness inside of us, and we react to them with resentment, anger, and fear.
Resentment, anger, and fear make up the triangle of self-obsession. All of our defects of
character are forms of these three reactions. Self-obsession is at the heart of our insanity.
Resentment is the way most of us react to our past. It is the reliving of
past experiences, again and again in our minds. Anger is the way most of us
deal with the present. It is our reaction to and denial of reality. Fear is what we feel when
we think about the future. It is our response to the unknown; a fantasy in reverse. All three
of these things are expressions of our self-obsession. They are the way that we react when
people, places, and things (past, present, and future) do not live up to our demands.
I now see the ability to experience these negative emotions is a gift that sobriety brings me, so that I can see that there is a problem.
25 y/o virgin before GLL
This is creepy as fuck. I literally checked out my 1st GFs FB profile two days ago and been feeling like shit ever since. That's what caused me to instigate this thread as well.
We haven't seen in years and I've been hating her and believing she hates my guts. I have avoided looking her up like the plague.
AND I JUST BUMPED INTO HER IN THE STORE JUST NOW! I'm in shock. What the fuck? This is so creepy and unbelievable.
I didn't know what to do so I just said hi. She said oh hi and walked away. My heart started pounding and I didn't know what to do. I was afraid. Then I went back to her and asked how she was doing. She was smiling and we had a little chat. She seemed super curious as to how I'm doing. Then we hugged. Then I had to eject.
What the fuck what the fuck what the fuck. This is so weird.
25 y/o virgin before GLL
This quote sums it up about life: "Men either sink or swim, Women pretty much float if that makes sense, Men either rise to the top or sink to the bottom, meanwhile women sort of exist happily in the middle"
I love girls, they give me so much attention and do what I say. The girls I've become friends with do anything and everything I want them to do (keep in mind this isn't sexual). That being said, I don't go out much and hang out with drunk sluts or slide into DM's or use dating apps. If I did I would probably hate women too, getting rejected constantly and being just one person giving them attention and getting nothing in return, that would suck.
diatomic wrote: I love girls, they give me so much attention and do what I say. The girls I've become friends with do anything and everything I want them to do (keep in mind this isn't sexual). That being said, I don't go out much and hang out with drunk sluts or slide into DM's or use dating apps. If I did I would probably hate women too, getting rejected constantly and being just one person giving them attention and getting nothing in return, that would suck.
That's a lotta judgement for someone who doesn't hate women.
The reality is any player is gonna have some negative feelings towards women.
If you don't, it's cuz you're playing it safe and you probably aren't fucking that many girls.
But equally likely: you've just had a good couple months and haven't hit a rough patch. If you're only fucking one girl, and shit is steady, you might feel like you have no negative feelings towards women (until you eventually break up). If you're fucking 20+ girls a year, guess what? The game is a rollercoaster.
My point is that you shouldn't feel bad about having those feelings. All players have them, Chris included.
Lay Count: 97 (30 from cold approach since finding GLL)
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2. Quit kratom completely (DONE)
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