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Short story is... I'm getting numbers, dates, etc, etc...
But I'm not getting much lately past that. The dates all seem "ok" or "nice" but I'm just not seeing much excitement from the girls.
I try to be bolder, move faster but there's clear resistance, she's not feeling it yet to be ok with going along with me.
It's just a pattern lately, lots of "nice" chat but it's going nowhere.
I look at infield videos here and stuff and Chris just seems to chill... like he's not using any crazy routines or PUA stuff, just talking about whatever while pushing forward and the girls seem to just go with it and seem attracted. With me, the girls often seem standoffish, not really seeming to feel that buzz when we are talking.
Any tips or advice where I'm going wrong? If I'm getting them to meet me there must be SOME initial attraction but it seems to fizzle out more often than I'd like... love some help here guys. What do I need to work on and how?
Im no expert but I suggest you stop going on dates if you're trying to to get laid. Invite women to the house or go to their place. If they won't come over then go for drinks near your place. I've slept with 5 women his year and the one I took on a real date has tried to bogart her way to wifey status (unsuccessfully).
And You are Most likely not initiating a sexual dialog before the meetup. If you're goal is to get laid, then you need to screen the girls out that aren't into it before bothering to go on a date. Yea you may miss a few that were dtf but didn't wanna show it at first, but you'll have a lot less annoyance overall wasting your time on girls who you could have got rid of quickly.
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I didn't read anywhere in your post about you making a move. Are you trying to kiss these girls and then inviting them back to your place? Fuck all the other shit, this is the MOST IMPORTANT. Kiss her! Make a move and get her back to your place. Game doesn't mean shit, screening doesn't mean shit, none of this means shit if you don't kiss her and invite her back to your place.
You don't even have to initiate "kino" or "escalate" or any of that nerdy shit. You can literally just go in for the kiss whenever the fuck you want. I do this all the time. You will learn to be more flirty and sexual with experience, without having to consciously think "ok!! Time to initiate the kino now and physically escalate!!!!!" Like a dork.
Quick question, are these girls from online or nightlife or what?
From what I understand from the post, you're trying to take it in a sexual direction (touching, flirting, leading up to the kiss) but they're not receptive to any of the advances you make. If this is the case, maybe you're dressing poorly, smell bad, or have bad breath? You should be passing their looks threshold if they're willing to go out with you - so it shouldn't be your overall looks.
Chris basically lays it all out in the blog post he linked but you should just basically be meeting girls for drinks at a bar close to your house. Talk to them and while you're talking just play with their hand, touch their back, play with their hair, etc until you kiss her. I try to make the kiss happen within 30 minutes of the date. From there, grab another drink - keep making out randomly - then try to pull her back home for a bottle of wine and netflix. The key is being extra touchy until you kiss her. That's about all the advice I can give on this topic.
It's just confusing the hell out of me. The girls go on dates, heck they might even go on multiple dates with me, but then it fizzles.
Either they seem warm in the lea up to the date, then seem totally cold halfway into the date.
Or else they seem warm and want to go on more dates (warm as in, fun but not sexual) but then it fizzles out.
Not EVERY girl is like this but I've rally been trying to level up to some really cute girls rather than girls I'm not totally into.
I get that some girls aren't DTF the first time but I find it all strange. If I girl is out on a date with you, doesn't that mean she's initially interested? Why do they go cold.
I take on board the style and hygene comment for sure. But all I can really say is I work pretty hard in the area. I get a lot of compliments about my style, etc..
I think I'm just a little frustrated at things right now as I want to make progress.
Don't pm me asking questions if you are not going to message me back with a thank you after a lengthy answer or if you are going to debate with my experiences. If you can't say please and thank you, ask your mother to teach you some manners.
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