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Hmmm. I cant think of a single street fight I have seen that HASNT gone to the ground?
Ok I just read what you quoted and I can see the way that I wrote it isn't what I intended.. I didn't mean that 99% of fights don't goto the ground.. I was meaning that it isn't true that 99% of fights do goto the ground like the statistic says. I can see the confusion in how I wrote it now. Alot of fights do stay standing up, you can't say 99% either way.
There is alot that don't, and you don't want to train specifically or only for the ground.. and you especially don't want to stay there and go for submissions. You want to be able to escape if you're stuck and get back up.
I had been traning MMA for 3 months, when a douce came and knocked me down in the streets .. When I was lying on the ground, he was standing above me and raining punches down on me. I did a heelhook on him and almost broke his leg - when he went to the ground, I had the ground control - Grappling saved my ass.
Why did the guy knock you down..I thought everyone in Denmark was happy and non violent? :-*
muay thai boxing. a good elbow or knee by someone who knows how to throw them can be devastating. just please stay away from garbage like wing chung or teakwando
why is teakwando bad? I know joe rogan knocks it.
Personally, it isn't the style, unless you are becoming a pro fighter, that's different.
if it's about dealing with someone who is vioent, better to give off a vibe that won't attract these types. Then the question is, if it gets physical, what maneuvers would finish the guy off quickly, the last thing you want to do is get into a fight where you are not getting paid for it >
many times a guy will attack you when you are not looking. I was once standing in a bar where a guy was knocked down from behind, half the time that is how it will work . people who are violent are highly likely to be psychopaths or narcissists, and since these types are always filled with an undercurrent of rage, they have to unload sometimes
I took Krav Maga for about a year. Krav, in my opinion, excels at instilling two concepts:
Maintaining guard - while my training wasn't extensive, I can say that I at least know how to posture up.
Dirty boxing lays the foundation of your offense. Hooks, straights, elbows, hammerfists, and uppercuts were taught immediately. Groin, straight, and side kicks round out your arsenal, but if shit got real I'd probably fall back on my fists. An instructor would rather your striking be explosive than graceful because the purpose of Krav Maga is to hit hard, fast, and GTFO. There was ground defense but no ground fighting that I can recall. By ground defense I mean knowing what to do when you're on your back deflecting head stomps and knowing how to get back on your feet. In fact, sprawl drills (a takedown defense) were practiced almost every session because my instructor was adamant about not going to the ground. He personally knew jiujitsu guys/doormen that had their heads caved in from attempted ground submissions.
Overall, Krav Maga is probably effective against untrained assailants, but the fact that I can only say probably is its major downside. The knife defense was intuitive, though I (fortunately) have not had an opportunity to use it. Sparring, if it occurred at all in our studio, was not part of the first year curriculum. At no time did I feel I was in real danger and I suspect that a violent offender would have the advantage in an altercation. To his credit, my instructor emphasized situational awareness over combat. Here is a video I believe everyone should watch:
That is raw shit. If I saw a hoodlum walking walking towards me, hands in his pockets playing with something that might even remotely be an edge weapon, I'd cross the street.
Ultimately, I don't think there is any substitute for real world fighting experience. I perk up when guys like Nytol say they have fought many times per week for eleven years. Listen to him. When my schedule clears up I plan on getting into boxing to build actual contact fighting resolve. Krav Maga might be a good addition if you already participate in contact sparring and want to learn situational awareness.
Just want to point out that I don't think Jitz is bad. I'm really not qualified to speculate on its street fighting application. The other day I read an article which noted that celebrated military combat instructors forewent ground fighting in spite of their grappling roots.
Fairbairn was a judo/ju-jutsu trained man, highly experienced in throwing,
holding, and grappling groundwork. Biddle was a ju-jutsu man — thoroughly versed in grappling an mat fighting. Brown and Begala were both catch-as-catch-can wrestlers, with the obvious heavy
orientation in mat fighting and ground-grappling that this suggests. Kawaishi was a judo/ju-jutsu man — as thoroughly oriented in groundgrappling
and matwork as anyone on earth. O’Neill was a premier judo man whose specialty, groundfighting, saw him
defeating Japanese champions and literally beating “all comers” who wished to
have a go at him on the mat.
Every single one of those incomparable masters of practical, all-in fighting and
close combat was PRIMARILY A GRAPPLER/GROUNDFIGHTER in his own
fundamental and experiential orientation; yet, when pressed to develop methods
for actual combat, EACH ONE DISCARDED GROUNDGRAPPLING and
taught a repertoire of vicious, direct skills BASED UPON BLOWS of the hands
feet, elbows, head, knees, and fingers! Every single one.
Maybe someone more qualified disagrees with the article. Read it if you're interested.
As someone trained in westren boxing have you ever had this happen to you in your experience on the street
Traditional boxing has that foot twist for added punching power. but kick-boxers exploit the shit out of this with low kicks
I've seen some traditional boxers who had trouble adjusting back when I trained thai.
Also how did you got into the bouncing gig? Any tips for breaking in mate?
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