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I hate to break it to you, but Steven Segal and Aikido are completely useless in a real fight.
While I'll admit that Aikido's very beautiful to watch in demonstrations, it has no practical applications in a real fight. In fact, I would rank Aikido as one of my least favorites in this regard, just above those guys who claim they can knock someone out without even touching them just by throwing their chi energy at them.
One of the founding principles behind Aikido is that in an ideal encounter with an attacker, both the Aikido practitioner AND THE ATTACKER would be unharmed at the end of the engagement. You read that right. Aikido was originally developed as a way to AVOID injuring your attacker. The founder of the system (Morihei Ueshiba) was basically a pacifist and tried to devise a way for both people to walk away from the attack unharmed. Aikido is more of a spiritual and philosophical artform rather than a practical style of combat.
In all the demonstrations you see of people using Aikido, the "attackers" are just going along with it and not putting up any resistance. The attackers are basically throwing themselves to the ground. I have actually taken a couple of Aikido classes. I can confirm that from first hand experience. Not once did I ever feel like the instructor actually threw me. Some Aikido practitioners would say, "Exactly. He was so good that he made you throw yourself. That's real Aikido man." That's bullshit. Aikido is basically a bunch of guys pretending to get thrown around by their instructors, when in reality, if they ever had to use those techniques they wouldn't work in the slightest. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
There is a style of Aikido called Shodokan Aikido. Shodokan Aikido is basically a competitive form of Aikido. Usually I'm all for martial arts techniques proving themselves in competition, but the result of competitive Aikido is just a very weird looking shoving match that I can't quite explain. It almost looks like grab ass and really lazy, sloppy Judo had a baby. And while you may think that would be pretty cool to watch, trust me, the baby grew up to be a huge disappointment to both of it's parents and now smokes crack in a van down by the river. It's complete bullshit.
Ethan X is right, aikido is hokey. It's more like a dance than a martial art. People going along with the flow of things without much resistance. Yes maybe in 25 years like the asian master you will understand human movement and possibly be able to subdue an attacker in hand to hand combat. But 1 year of Krav Maga could get you out of a hole lot more.
To throw in my 2 cents on the topic, I have a black belt in Aikido and Hapkido. I was also a MCMAP (Marine Corps Martial Arts Program) instructor while in the Marines. For the past 10 years or so, I've trained at a Boxing gym and also an MMA gym, where I've studied Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Muay Thai, Wrestling, and MMA. I was on the US Men's Muay Thai team at the Muay Thai world championships, and took the Bronze medal for the United States. Along with all of this, I've studied the Russian martial art "Systema" for a number of years as well.
I'm not saying any of this to brag, but to illustrate the point that I've had the chance to weigh different styles against one another. My opinion on what style to practice is the same as my opinion on what weapon is the best to use; it all depends on how you train it, and what you're made of. In prisons, the guys who survive fist fights best are the ones that wrestled in high school. In close quarters situations, like those in prison, it's as simple as bum rushing the guy with straight punches until you can get close enough to take him down. If you've wrestled, then you have developed enough body knowledge and sensitivity to where you can take the person down. After that, it's simply staying on top and raining down punches, elbows and head butts. Bruce Lee himself said that the best way to beat a black belt is to study Boxing and Wrestling for a year or so.
I'm personally a fan on the eye gouges and knee kicks (front snap kick to the knee to get the guy to buckle). I can't tell you how many times this combination has gotten the drop on someone who was standing in front of me, daring me to make the first move. Action is always faster than reaction. It's either a quick finger jab to the eyes, followed by a swift kick to the knee... or a swift kick to the knee followed by an eye jab. After that, an elbow across the jaw, temple, or even throat is a good follow up. However, all the technical knowledge in the world wont help you if you don't possess the constitution to execute the move when time comes. This is helped with mental rehearsal.
We know about the fight or flight scenario. Both are great choices in a street fight. However, not making a choice between fight or flight is what kills people. Freezing in place and hesitating/panicking will leave you a willing victim. The next time you are standing next to a co-worker, and he or she is droning on and on about something useless, try and visualize how you would react if they were to attack you from this particular angle in this particular environment. Try not to look too crazy when you visualize stabbing them in the neck with an office pen and then slamming their head into the nearby water cooler. You rehearse this enough times in your head, and shadowbox the techniques in front of the mirror enough times, and you will essentially program yourself to diagram a situation well enough to where you can actually act.
...Anyways, just my thoughts. Happy Hunting.
May the Best of Your Past be the Worst of Your Future.
We need to be careful about confusing 'match fights' with 'street fights'.
A street fight normally starts at punching range, 18” or so, plus with very few people being out on their own, the last thing
Sorry to cut it to you but your "friend" (if indeed you know the guy) above hit a guy that did not even pose a threat other than verbally. The guy is half the size, it looks like they are talking to each other, 'your friend' gets ready to smack him and then sucker punches him with a straight jab to the mouth. Not difficult.
If that dude had actually been in fight mode (and not weighed like half the other guy) the whole thing would have looked different. Also lucky nobody was carrying guns or your friend would be dead.
All in all...thats a great example of what NOT TO DO. Unless you wanna get fucked up eventually
When you have been there and done it, then get back to me.
What the fuck has weight got to do with it?
Are you happy to be hit by a sub 200lb guy, but not one over 200lb?
A middle weight boxer looks very slight, but will knock you out, slap your girlfriend, then stamp all over your head should he choose, because you are asleep and helpless.
If you bothered to read the end you will see that the three were all known violent offenders, and people with experience, (clearly not you), can tell when someone is about to go, and will end it there.
And for your information it was a right cross, not a jab, just shows how ignorant you are
That's some straight up knowledge in that post right there. And well done in the fight. Full respect. Everybody should listen up to what Lubomyr has to say should he decide to grace us with more posts.
Regarding Nytol's video post, I would approve of taking the first shot. As luck would have it, the camera doesn't record voices, so the man who was knocked out could have been saying anything. When I teach my self-defense seminars, I tell people that they need to "draw a line in the sand" and decide when enough is enough ahead of time. What I mean by this is that you have to decide when to switch from Ready to GO.
If you're lucky enough to not get completely ambushed or sucker punched, you have a chance to set parameters. Crossing the line may be someone stepping into your "bubble." I train police officers and federal agents on a weekly basis, and they all agree that someone getting in past your arm length is cause enough to feel threatened. This means if someone steps in too close for comfort, that can be an immediate call to arms, and reason enough to strike first.
Crossing the line can also be someone actually putting their hands on you. This is obvious enough. Someone bumping you with his shoulder, or putting his finger in your chest is reason enough for you to break that finger off. Another way of crossing the line, and one that we all have to be aware of, is a verbal way. Harassment is a crime just like assault is a crime. When a crime is committed against you, you have to decide if you feel safe or not. Most people will get scared when someone starts speaking to them inappropriately or threateningly, but they won't consider it an attack. I do. If the guy in the video said something to your friend that caused him to fear for his or his woman's safety, he could later explain to the police that he made a judgement call and acted before it was too late. The only thing I would have done differently was immediately attack his friend. I'm sure you've all seen the Happy Slapper vs Boxer video, but here it is again. Notice that he doesn't wait for the guys friend to jump in. He takes it to him as well.
Keep in mind that a street fight (if you're doing your job) shouldn't last more than 3 seconds. Seriously. It should be "One Thousand One. One Thousand Two. One Thousand DOWN." Martial arts that teach you to strike fast and hard from the start work best for street fights. That's the biggest difference between sport fighting and street fighting. In a sport fight (Boxing, Muay Thai, MMA), you can't afford to be crazy and hot headed because the guy will hang back and wait to pick you apart. In a street fight, you've got to hit him with absolutely everything you've got right from the start, and not give him the slightest chance to mount an offense.
Thanks again for the nice intro, guys. I look forward to becoming part of this community.
May the Best of Your Past be the Worst of Your Future.
Regarding Nytol's video post, I would approve of taking the first shot. As luck would have it, the camera doesn't record voices, so the man who was knocked out could have been saying anything.
The guys walked into the burger bar in Cardiff, and right away started saying how much he’d like to do things to Jusin’s wife’s arse.
This was clearly a guy who was out looking for trouble, and unfortunately for him he picked on a guy who was able to deal with him.
99% of people would have backed down, and probably just been attacked, or gone home filled with shame that they let their partner be sexually insulted and did nothing.
I too would have dropped the friend straight away, and in retrospect Justin should have, as he had the 3 of them hanging off of him at one point, (yes the guy got up and tried to hit him, but was too fucked to accurately land a shot).
Legally the Police and CPS dropped the assault charge after the initial arrest, and he pleaded guilty to criminal damage for breaking the window, for which he got a fine and had to pay £120 costs for its replacement.
The guy who got thrown through it also had to pay £120 towards it, which I think is excellent
'Three Second Fighting' is what it is all about, you are clearly a top man who speaks from experience, a pleasure to meet you.
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