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GLL_DonDada wrote: You've tried Phenibut?

yeah i've tried it since stragely its one of the only things NOT banned in Australia.. lol

but i didnt really feel anything.. i'm not sure what i'm supposed to feel either. im not very susceptible to stims tbh, barely feel preworkout, energy drinks, coffee, alcohol etc.
(weed is the only thing that affects me but it just puts me to sleep.. so i rarely smoke)

If you can try to find another guy from this website and they/he might be willing to help you with the girls thing. I'm sure that when you start dating girls and sleeping with girls you'll see that some of the women you meet are kind, sweet too. Good luck bro.

Lower your standards, that's what I did in order to lose my virginity although I'm not really satisfied with my dating life or sex life yet because I haven't really been exclusive with a woman yet

Stud_Muffin wrote: If you can try to find another guy from this website and they/he might be willing to help you with the girls thing. I'm sure that when you start dating girls and sleeping with girls you'll see that some of the women you meet are kind, sweet too. Good luck bro.

lol funny af you should mention it planning on meeting some guys from this site tomorrow if all oges well.

i don't know about you but I've never been on a date so i don't have any reference for anything mate

WishIWasASaiyan wrote: Lower your standards, that's what I did in order to lose my virginity although I'm not really satisfied with my dating life or sex life yet because I haven't really been exclusive with a woman yet

hmm dont have any standards at this point i'll take anything but no girls have ever talked to me, attractive or not.

ive also noticed when im out only average or above average girls make eye contact with me or smile at me all the below average girls that i would have a chance with just ignore me. maybe they have low self confidence or something

i even noticed this on tinder i only swipe right on below average girls and i get no matches but once i swiped right on average to above average girls and got a few matches but i was too scared to message any of them and i later deleted my account out of disgust.

Yeah it can be very annoying that even average and below average looking girls have lots of options still, it seems even those girls can be turned off when a guy is needy or desperate, it's obviously very hard to not be needy or desperate if you haven't had that much past success on your shoulders

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what's your question?

killtheinnerloser wrote: what's your question?

its in the title lol
Getting past the self loathing and hatred being a virgin past 30?

You can't talk/think yourself out of self-hatred. Only way to get out of it is to fix what's making you unhappy

Which is being a virgin. So fix that bit and you'll stop hating yourself

I would start with escorts and yoga classes. Than progress to nailing the girls in the yoga classes while learning to love yourself.

killtheinnerloser wrote: You can't talk/think yourself out of self-hatred. Only way to get out of it is to fix what's making you unhappy

Which is being a virgin. So fix that bit and you'll stop hating yourself

Untrue, and sometimes even fixing the "problem" does nothing to solve the underlyin issue of self-hatred. Because it turns the "problem" isn't the actual cause of the self-hatred, it's just something one uses as a scape-goat to blame all their bad feelings on. As an example I hated myself because I couldn't play the guitar, I hated myself because I was a virgin, I hated myself because I was small and weak. I fixed all those "problems" to an extent that I'm better than most people at every single one and guess what -- I still hate myself. And that's because there was no problem that needed to be fixed in the first place. I just find it difficult to accept who I am. Why am I not enough? Of course, there's probably some daddy issues, like I remember my father used to say things to me like "you realize nobody's interested in the same things as you?" and make fun of my weight and in general make me feel bad when I was a kid. But I shouldn't let that affect how I talk to myself anymore.

Most people lose their virginities at a young age because they don't hate themselves so it kinda just comes naturally, because some women are drawn to guys who don't hate themselves. The virginity doesn't actually cause the problem, it's just a symptom of an underlying condition.

Getting rid of the virginity will probably help, but will Deltsbrah feel all better afterwards? I doubt that. I mean, he already has in fact lost his virginity and was miserable after the experience.

That's why personally I've decided that I ain't gonna do jack shit for at least a year and just focus on letting life occur and accepting it. We need to get out of the mindset that virginity is somehow a "problem" and that by "fixing it" things are gonna get all better. We need to stop judging people based on how much they're having sex (or any other outward aspect whatsoever) and respect every person for the person that they are. It is only then that people can stop hating themselves and - more importantly - one another. Cuzz really there is no fucking problem! You're just fine as you are! Just go talk to girls like normal.

Stop crying.

Start the AA program, make an online profile for us to critique, and get to work.

Stop wasting everyone's time.

You've been on this forum for almost 3 years; just do something.