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You can start by forcing yourself to get laid with about 10 chicks even if you don't like it. That'll start to heal your thought processes.
I believe ya need ta talk to people that are in the same boat as you (in real life, not on online forums). Only people who're going thru the same can identify with you and give you advice. Whenever you go into that deep and dark place and your mind spirals out of control into obsessive negative thinking about girls, you need to have someone to call to discuss your feelings. A lot more people actually hate chicks than you think but only a few entertain those thoughts as much as you do.
25 y/o virgin before GLL
Terminator wrote: You can start by forcing yourself to get laid with about 10 chicks even if you don't like it..
I'm too much of a retard to even go on a single date.. Which if i do (go on a date somehow, not actually get laid) would make me feel infinitely better but at this point I don't think there is a single female in the almost 3 BILLION or so female population who would even talk to me because I trigger their weirdo sensor.
Doesn't matter if you think so or not, you're certainly wrong about this. Everyone is a weirdo when they're doing shit that they've never done before. I've creeped out so many girls you wouldn't even believe. But creeping bitches out and not stopping caused me to eventually develop some sense of seduction tactics allowing me to have women willingly give theirselves to me. Looking good also helped, and you're on the way to that too. I think you should re-read and watch all of Chris's stuff. Start with the basics.
If a girl is willing to talk to you, that's a start. Build up on that. It's not productive to think too far ahead into the future; otherwise the journey will seem insurmountable. One step at a time is the way to approach everything in life. Eventually you'll notice women don't mind talking to you. The most important spiritual principle needed for this is gratefulness. I remember when I started doing the AA program, I was so excited when I noticed women gave me the time! It was so awesome coming from zero female contact. Just the fact that some girl would stop and tell me the time when I asked felt like a gift.
You require faith. If you don't believe in yourself, trust GLL.
Deltsbrah wrote: Yeah I was reading your recovery thread and was thinking it would be massively helpful to have a group like that to talk to. But thing is THERE ISN'T ANY SUPPORT GROUP FOR VIRGINS lol
I dont think there is any real-world support groups for social anxiety, depression, porn addiction or internet addiction either..
Pretty ironic if i was an alcoholic or a meth-head there would be so many recovery/support groups that would help.. but not for my issues.. its a joke because depression i think IS the most common mental illness and social anxiety is the second most common (i think), but no one gives a shit probably because depressive ppl with anxiety don't go committing crimes or beating people up, no we just suffer in silence for decades and then just die or kill ourselves.
Yes, that is a true shame indeed. But you have to remember; NA was formed by addicts to addicts. There's no government or any controlling power at hand. In the same way, virgins and depressed people should unite their powers for common good!!! Let the healing begin!!!
25 y/o virgin before GLL
Hey delts brah. Let me first say that you are not alone. I have met several young men in your position. I'm only 23 but I've met a couple guys in their 30s who haven't had sex yet. So you are not alone!!!
Second. I will be the first to be honest. I am not opposed to paying for pussy. Why not go to the Las Vegas bunny ranch and get a pro? I love the fact that we have that option as men. And I really am not trying to be funny or offensive.
Third. I think you have high standards. Lower your standards and fuck ugly bitches and read Chris' post on lowering your standards. Trust me we have all been there.
Fourth. You mentioned that you don't feel at ease when speaking to women. Give Kratom a try! Or phenibut. Your social anxiety will chill out.
deltsbrah because its difficult, it makes it more worth it in the end.
I think its fun for guys going out to get laid because its so difficult. technically if we budget our money, we can get a lay a month , with hot women, just paying for it. saving time by not approaching, work and pay for the lay. but there is really no enjoyment out of that because there is no effort.
nothing that comes easy is worth it. btw, i believe the first girl I dated was from sri lanka. seemed all goody two shoes from the outside, but the whore was strong within her, let me tell ya. so fun.
i found it easier getting dates from ppl of the same culture, but thats from my experience anyway. you got this man.
Man I really hope for the day you write a post telling us you went on a date or you fucked a girl.
I honestly believe you can, because even weirdos and socially akward people can get dates and can get laid. Besides you are not as ugly as you think, I have seen your pictures. I truly believe that the only thing stopping you is your own limiting beliefs, and hopefully you realize this one day.
It won't be asy and it will take a lot of time, but for sure you can defeat your own mind that has you imprisioned right now.
maybe you should just do an online dating profile and state in your description: I'm socially akward and I'm looking for a socially akward girl to go together on a socially awkard date. (I'm serious btw)
You have to realize, you are not the only socially akward man in the world, nor the most socially akward man in the world. In this forum alone we have seen way weirder guys than you.
Another thing to consider is that there are socially akward girls as well, who feel just as hopeless as you do, but you can't really tell from just looking at them in the streets. Hence why I say that you should try the online dating with the description I pointed.
Believe me, A VERY POWERFUL connection in the world is one you share with people who suffer the same struggles as you do, so if you met a very socially awkard girl who is in the same spot as you are, you prob will make a connection if you talk about it with her.
Just give it a try, you obviously have nothing to lose.
thebull wrote: maybe you should just do an online dating profile and state in your description: I'm socially akward and I'm looking for a socially akward girl to go together on a socially awkard date. (I'm serious btw)
lmfao epic post lol'd in real life..
The amount of awkwardness and awkward silences would be over 9000
Even socially awkward girls don't like awkward guys and prefer confidant/goodlooking guys not ugly retards like me, but im a troll both online and in real life so i'm actually tempted to do this for laughs.
Generalization. Besides if a woman can't attract a confident/good looking mate then they will be happy to receive you (= lower your standards). Note I'm not calling you a retard or ugly, I'm just attacking your claim.
Deltsbrah wrote: its the same issue in real life im just too embarrassed to talk to girls regarding anything personal. im even too shy to admit to people in real life that i am attracted to females i avoid the topic due to embarrassment. thing is i can talk about pretty much anything as long as im not in the picture.. i.e. i can talk about a sexual encounter that one of my mates had (i literally did so with a couple of guys tonight) but when it comes to myself I cant.. When ppl ask me why i dont go out or have a gf I just tell them "i dont do that kind of stuff"
The only way to become non-embarrassed is to force yourself to act in spite of your embarrassment (=exposure therapy).
You're not unique. This shit works for anyone.
25 y/o virgin before GLL
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