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What do you eat/whats your lifestyle? I've noticed less swelling around my bottom neck since I've cut out sugary carbs, stopped smoking/drinking and started eating lots of vegetables. It feels like the lymph nodes or whatever in my neck are a lot less swollen.
I'm just against surgery period. I think its a pretty fucked up way to go personally and this is the advice I'd give myself, but you know you better than I do.
To anyone who is giving diet advice, low body fat etc. or that I need to respect myself please read my story first and look at the photos (and the yk-11/rad-140 thread).
@rapitup. Had my first alcoholic drink a week ago after a 1.5 year complete break. Diet is cyclical ketogenic and nutrition is on point. Surgery might seem extreme to you and that it doesn’t change how you feel or how chicks react to you. But you know I have empirical evidence that it does. When i got my ear surgery and scalp micropigmentation done not only did I feel significantly better about myself but for a time I started getting laid a lot. So it is a no brainer. And as for hard work, I may be one of the least good looking losers in this community but few can match how hard I worked (at least in 2016).
I am not aiming to bang 10s because right now I am only capable of banging girls within my league (5/6s with the occasional 7). In fact even in this range I haven't gotten a new bang in almost 7 months. If I was able to simple bang more girls without having to do 100s of approaches then I would be quite happy. Once I am able to bang 7s regularly (once a month) then I will consider my goals with girls complete. To me, getting laid now is a means to getting more good quality girls in my life on a reasonably consistent basis and the better able I am to do that, the more I can give myself permission to focus on other important areas in life i.e. business, making money. Don't get me wrong I have loved (and hated) the rollercoaster self-development/cold approach ride I have devoted myself to but my ‘making girls number 1 priority in life’ phase is coming to an end. Instead of being a part-time job, I want to get laid with 'reasonable' quality girls reasonably often (i.e. not less than x1 per month or 2) without putting in 20+ hours of time a week.
As far as getting my body-fat % lower than 7-8%, ain't gonna happen. I've done every keto diet, cyclical carb diet whatever you care to mention but my jawline is so bad that even single digits won't cut it (no pun intended). And believe me I would be on every anabolic steroid available if not for the fact I am working offshore on a ship more than half the year where security/customs are everywhere. I am going to be doing a ostarine/s4/potentially a 3rd sarm cut (SARMs are still legal in Europe - sorry to hear about the ban in the US!) when my next blood test is confirmed to be fine so getting to the 8-9% range should be doable.
Yes I see that BIB is right. The beard improvement truly is the last thing I can do and of course it makes sense to try minoxidil before doing something as drastic as chin liposuction which I repeat terrifies the hell out of me. The wrinkle thing absolutely IS a concern because I have met at least 2 people in person who have had these side effects and they were semi-permanent. So I will be approaching with caution.
Hi, not super relevant to the thread but: I was one of the puahate brainwashed guys that saw your initial posts a couple of years ago and said to get all the surgeries I think I thought you have like 0% chance anyway but reading your story more than proved me wrong and almost brought me to tears. You are a bigger man than most.
Whatever you do next doesn't even matter, you already won. You played the game on hard mode and persevered. Maybe one level left, enjoy it.
Hey brother. Thank you for saying that. Really, it means a lot.
One of my dreams in life is to convert an involuntarily celibate. Or a few. Help them out of that hole. Because let me tell you, unless you've been there the suffering these guys face cannot be quantified. Helping one would be a true victory for me. I guess I still feel like I need to help myself. However, I have DONE it as you said, I did win. I need to remember that.
First off, take some time to think of what you really want. The mindset of your incel days seem to have still lingered even after the cosmetic procedures you have already undergone.
I 100% understand you as I am also planning for cosmetic procedures. My conciousness has firmly decided that until I get these procedures done, it will continue to fck my entire self image over. However, I have also decided that after these procedures, I will work on my inner self perception.
I am not sure if you had drawn a line before you got your first procedure done. If not I would still say do the liposuction and forego the bear transplant.
Now, these are the procedures I will be getting when I go to the motherland later this year.
1) Hairline transplant- This is by far the #1 thing holding me back. No amount of inner game bullshit will change my perception towards my massive fckn forehead. Until this is fixed and I can rock a clean, edgy haircut, only then will a large mental barrier in my mind be broken.
2) Face liposuction - I dont have a chadlike jaw or chin and even at decent body fat, my side profile is gay AF. This is something I thought of recently, but I realized that with a proper hairline and less face fat, my side profile will draastically improve.
3) Laser hair removal on certain parts of the body - This is the least important and can be foregone if needed.
I dont know where you plan on getting your other procedures done, but I would advise you do some medical tourism.
Im looking at an extremely low price for myself back in the motherland.
Main point is, if you do decide to go with it, make sure you draw your line or else like people have said, it will never be enough. And dont take it to heart too much, you are already a boss. Youve gotten 33x more lays than me ( although technically 0 x 33 = 0 ) lol.
You're trippin bro. If I remember right you could probably just use height insoles, facial hair, minox/keto hair gainz and a tan. Those are all easy cheap fixes. I don't think you were that far from "maxed out."
Cut the Kardashian mindset and just max yourself out naturally. At this point, it's probably just your social confidence/location that is holding you back.
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I didn't think the "Get Hung" guide would have girls eyeing my bulge. It did.
I didn't think that your exercise and diet advice would have girls checking me out. It did.
I DEFINITELY didn't think that your hair-loss prevention would fix my hairline. Not in a billion years. It mother fucking did. You saved me a crazy amount of time, a ton of money, unnecessary pain, and destroyed my #1 source of anxiety. DESTROYED IT.
Kratom is next!
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