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How much does a defined jawline make a difference in terms of looks.
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It's not only the jawline, the whole complex changes when a person gets fit, better blood circulation=better color, better cheeks, better neck, better chin and stubbles look super badass!!
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Honestly this obsession with jawline is only good for infecting everyone with body dysmorphia and selling you diet supps that you don't need. I've never met any woman who says they look at men's jaws. When I've shown my facial pics of various bodyfat levels to women none of them preferred the sub-10% bodyfat look. None.
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Unless you are some kind of social phenomenon(fitness competitor, model, actor) I agree with Terminator, going from average(15% bfat) to lean won't get you THAT much better looking unless you go around without your shirt on(being lean helps far more with the body rather than the face imo).
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Disagree with this entirely. |
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Yea I'm with DC7 on this one. The difference in attractiveness between 15% bf and 8% bf is staggering. It makes all the difference
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Okay love all the responses guys but now is the real question I'm currently 6'2 at 180 pounds with a decent amount of muscle but not a huge amount. Is it worth it to get down to 8% body fat witch would probably put me at like 160 pounds or some shit just for the jawline or what should I do? Fastest way possible to start getting more looks
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I agree with DC7 and BIB (and also
Chris
), getting lean is the best thing you can do for your appearance.
I don't know why questions like this get asked. Just get in fucking shape.
What alternative are you suggesting? It's not just for the jawline, it's for all your facial features, your abs, muscle definition, V-shape upper body, and on and on. If you're asking whether you should lean before bulk, you can get completely opposite answers about this depending on where you look. Personally I think (and if I remember DC7 posted same thing on his site, sorry if I misremember) you should lean before bulk, because it's easier to maintain muscle when cutting than to keep off fat while bulking. So get lean first and that gives you space to put on some fat while bulking and stay <12-15%.
This will be the death of your sex life, and anything else you go for. You're either in it for the long haul or you'll quit and go back to porn. Get it out of your head! There are no get rich quick schemes. Be prepared to spend years maxing out your physique. If you already have experience and work ethic from working out "natty" you can try SARMs to speed things up (I wouldn't recommend them for novices because you might end up using them as an excuse to be lazy and you won't get good results). |
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I think a more important question would be what do you need those looks for? You can approach chicks even if they don't look at you you know. If you spend an equal time actually approaching chicks with your current physique vs. taking "years to max out your physique" as mentioned in sweatervest's post above, which do you think will get you more results in terms of lays? Would you rather feel miserable and hungry, have shitty hormones but a fantastic jawline or be happy with a lean, athletic physique (12-15% bodyfat)? The problem with niche forums such as GLL is that they sometimes feed on peoples' insecurities and fixate on some particular details which are actually pretty removed from real life. Go talk about jawlines and 8% bodyfat to your friends, co-workers or the chicks you're dating and see how they respond. You'll see how far this stuff is distanced from reality. It's very hard to accept after spending tons of effort and time on achieving something that it was actually detrimental to your happiness. Keep this in mind when listening to peoples' opinions. There's no magic ticket to success and if there is, it's certainly not your jaw... |
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Obviously at first getting that lean is difficult, but through lots of trial and error, you can eventually come up with a plan that allows you to maintain a top 0.01% physique with minimal drug maintenance, minimal cardio, minimal lifting, and without feeling like you're starving. I think that another issue derives from guys thinking that what a girl says is the truth, or anyone for that matter. Ask a girl how important jawlines and abs are and they'll probably respond saying it's not a huge deal, but then when a prospect comes up and hits on them out of the blue dick skin shredded, awesome looking facial features, stylish, cool guy who can hold a conversation, do you really think that her first though isn't going to be holy shit this stunning guy is hitting on me *drip* *drip*. Obviously this is an exaggerated scenario but you are basically saying you either have to dedicate your entire life to fitness and feel like shit to look good, or deal with being a lot more average, and there is no in between. Not the case. It's not just about having a jawline either, it's about everything that comes along with it. The increased confidence, the better looking smile that isn't shrouded in a handful of cheek fat, the lean physique that looks excellent in form fitting clothing, etc. The pros far outweigh the cons, and asking if being less than 10% is really a big deal is just an excuse to let yourself be lazy. There is no reason to be over 12% body fat ever IMO. Even that is pushing it depending on the scenario.
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100% agree w/ dc7. You don't have to be miserable to be a kick ass mother fucker with <10% bf. And like he said, there is ALOT more reasons to be really fit than just a jawline. Your confidence and, therefore, your quality of life will improve.
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I'm gonna chime in and say the difference in opinion might have to do with people's faces. If you have a really big jaw and cut down to sub 10%, it might be a bit much for some girls. If you have an average or above average sized jaw, you cant really afford to hide any of it with facial fat.
I would feel like a round faced asshole with >10% bf, but I see other guys who aren't in great shape and their faces look pretty lean |
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