TOPIC: What if your ugly?

So this site tells people to get above average looking (As well as the others) , I thing that they are all achievable (Got good style ,Just waiting for cash) , Im confident talking to pretty much anyone (I always start conversations with people i dont know ,and am fairly confident in that aspect - Though my confidence will improve even more when i get new clothes / improve appearance) and alot of the other aspects you can just work on.

But if your not attractive then theres no point in working on the others? , So what do if you are ugly? I know about all the ways to improve (Dress well , Again i can do this as soon as i get money and im going to buy some nice clothes before UNI) , Chris skincare routine (Currently doing) , Working out (Currently doing) , Been to countless appointments for my Acne and will get reffered to a Dermo next time i go there (If my skin doesent clear up with this next treatment , Will go there 1st of next month if not) but i still dont think thats going to be enough to get me above average.

I think confidence is way more important. So many ugly dudes with hot chicks. Girls have always found me to be very attractive but growing up I was always shy and I would see ugly dudes always banging the chicks I had crushes on. It takes more than good looks to get girls. If you're ugly then naturally it might be more of a challenge but trust me, it's not as much of an issue as your mind thinks. If you have an apha male personality, looks dont even matter. I remember this dude I went to high school with, he wasn't a bad looking dude but he had MAJOR cystic acne on his face. Like.. all over his face but he was an apha male and every chick loved him.

Yeah , True.I see so many guys better looking (And alot better) than me that are struggling so im thinking theres no point even trying ti improve (Even though i am still doing it anyway - Like i said am working out / Good skincare / researching others things etc).

The confidence thing i dont get though , Like i said even though im really not confident in my looks , I can still portray myself as confident.Wethor its in the shop or going out drinking with friends , I can always start talking to someone about anything and always extend conversation with those i have to talk to (Shopkeepers for example) instead of just standing there silent like a lot of people do.

And its the same when i go out to town for example with friends , I can go with a group of friends but im also confident enough to talk to anyone and spend alot of time talking to other groups , So im portraying myself as confident and (Something that surprised me) alot of my friends said a while back in school that i was one of the most confident because thats how i portray myself , Again i think i could still improve my confidence but the way i portray myself isnt a issue i dont think , Its the way i look.

I dont know , I think its just a case of im doing as much as i can right now , Doing the skincare routine , Teeth routine , Working out , Improving my diet , Growing my hair out and then im going to talk to a hair stylist or something to see if anything can be done with it , Going to the doctors about Acne etc.

But i still dont think i can get above average looking even with everything im doing.I would like to go into uni with a decent appearance atleast so i wont be giving up on doing the skincare , Getting rid of acne etc but it all seems to be worthless.

I wish I could help you more but idk. I used to be the opposite. I had little confidence but I was good-looking. Even now, I'm not sure if I would be as confident as I am right now if I wasn't constantly re-enforced by women that I'm good looking. But anyway, have you tried Dan's regimen for your acne? Also apple cider vinegar and turmeric spice are great. Take a few shots of apple cider vinegar throughout the day and a few teaspoons of turmeric spice mixed in your drink throughout the day. It's really good for acne.

Improve what you can improve and don't worry about the stuff that you can't improve. If you can't get above average, what are you gonna do? Just quit? Or are you gonna get the most out of what you have? If looks aren't your strength then get social freedom, style and charisma like me. Outwork those naturally good-looking guys and you will get better results.

Besides, confidence makes you good looking. I've heard it from many chicks that just the way certain people act makes them look attractive even if their face isn't.

Stop it with these threads...

No im not going to quit , As i said im doing everything i can right now and will continue to do so to improve my situation.

As i said in the previous post , I portray myself as confident and everyone i talk to says i come off as a confident guy but as Chris has said you have to be atleast a little attractive , Even if you have confidence. Im trying not to be negative , I know alot of people have problems talking to people and being confident (Which i dont think i do) so im ahead in that aspect (Which is great) i now just need to improve my appearance.

Terminator wrote: Improve what you can improve and don't worry about the stuff that you can't improve. If you can't get above average, what are you gonna do? Just quit? Or are you gonna get the most out of what you have? If looks aren't your strength then get social freedom, style and charisma like me. Outwork those naturally good-looking guys and you will get better results.

Besides, confidence makes you good looking. I've heard it from many chicks that just the way certain people act makes them look attractive even if their face isn't.

Stop it with these threads...

This. Action over analyzing, stop the mental masturbation.

See it as a blessing that you're playing life on a harder difficulity than all the gifted guys, and like terminator said, what's the alternative?

Everyone starts out at a different point. Some people are born lucky and others not so much. Some are born good looking into a rich family while others sit there and starve most of the day. That's how the world works.

Now nearly everyone who puts effort in can improve their looks if they aren't maxed yet. Let's assume someone is a 3/10 i.e. bottom 30th percentile. If he works out and gets a solid body that's at least a +1 right there if not more. Then he gets really great style, so another +1. Then he gets solid confidence so another +1. Boom. Now he's 6/10. Above average.

Which one do you think will get better quality girls? the 3/10 or 6/10? No matter the baseline, +3 will help you a lot. Yes, you might not be able to pull 9/10's or 10/10's that easily, but without working on your looks at all the best you'll probably get is a 5 with that rare 7.

/and I'm done with the mental masturbation for the day

To the above , I AM taking action.

I have been taken care of my skin and trying to get my skin clear for a year + ,Found this site recently and bought all the products for the Skincare + teeth routine and follow them everyday , Have started working out as well as some other minor things (Putting money aside for clothes for Uni for example) , Bought some new fragrances aswell.

This isnt a post where ive already given up / not started - I have started improving and havent given up (And wont)

Dannn wrote:

Terminator wrote: Improve what you can improve and don't worry about the stuff that you can't improve. If you can't get above average, what are you gonna do? Just quit? Or are you gonna get the most out of what you have? If looks aren't your strength then get social freedom, style and charisma like me. Outwork those naturally good-looking guys and you will get better results.

Besides, confidence makes you good looking. I've heard it from many chicks that just the way certain people act makes them look attractive even if their face isn't.

Stop it with these threads...

This. Action over analyzing, stop the mental masturbation.

See it as a blessing that you're playing life on a harder difficulity than all the gifted guys, and like terminator said, what's the alternative?

Well put. The harder you have to work, the stronger you will get.

OP sounds like you're moving in the right direction and all you need is reassurance: you will be fine.