TOPIC: Been following GLL advice still 0 lays

Don't go to PUA Hate. It's a terrible place.

Exactly.

PuaHate is good for one thing, making you realize that 95% of PUAs are after your wallet. They don't want to you to have "LONG-TERM" success, they want you to have some short-term success, GET STUCK (like you are now), and then come back crawling to them and buying another product.

But what is PuaHate is NOT good for is ANYTHING ELSE. No offense to them, but you think frustrated virgins are going to give any useful advice?

Stop posting there.

Just follow the advice people gave you here and STOP overthinking the living shit out of this man.

I can't believe you approach for 7 hours a day and can't laid.

Dude I've literally done like 10 approaches and got laid twice. Not trying to bring you down, but you have to realize the problem is not HOW your doing it. The problem is YOU.

Honestly this post was a waste of time. You just don't get it brother.

Dude PUAHATe is the most depressing place on this earth. Why would you spend your time there? I remember I spent half a day on there and it got me super depressed. So many unrealistic standards for men. They think if your not a male model, your a piece less worth of shit. They have standards through the roof and if you don't look like a victoria secret model, they won't fuck the girl. They over analyze your looks

Don't go to PUA Hate. It's a terrible place.

Exactly.

PuaHate is good for one thing, making you realize that 95% of PUAs are after your wallet. They don't want to you to have "LONG-TERM" success, they want you to have some short-term success, GET STUCK (like you are now), and then come back crawling to them and buying another product.

qft. tbh though some of the trolls there are funny as fuck

Leo, ideal for your size is probably pretty close to what my ideal weight is. Maybe another 5 pounds because your a couple inches taller but I can't be positive. Chris is like 6 foot 2 or 6 foot 3 and he talks about ideal body weight and bodyfat % for himself somewhere but I can't remember where. I think it was around 215 and a few % under 10% as well. I don't have any body pics up on here but some guys have asked for my pof and I have a couple on there. Stag (steven) has seen my pof and can vouch for my body.

i just feel so damn skinny that this "clean bulking" crap isnt working, or not fast enough at least.  Lean meats....  Whey and 2 % milk.... should i start gorging on icecream and whole milk?  reason why i ask is because of people who go stuff like GOMAD(gallon of milk a day)

Fair warning: I am just giving my thoughts as I see them, but I'm a noob. I've had sex with 3 girls in my life now, and only one of them was due to game. So maybe my thoughts are bullshit. But I have been doing a shit ton of diet/exercise, and hanging out in person and online with a lot of dudes who get pussy, and going to the clubs around here/doing some casual daytime approaches, and I can see principles at work.

If girls say you aren't hot, something's off. Either your personality isn't congruent with your style which makes you seem non-genuine, or your style sucks for the kind of girls you're approaching, or your style sucks period. (I'd look into a different haircut if I were you, but get a second opinion on that from another guy here, or some girls you know who will give you their honest opinions.) But honestly I think you're definitely muscled enough to get girls to notice you, when you consider all the dudes who get pussy who don't have your body. Try approaching more 6s, less 9s, girls who can't afford to be as picky because they don't get fawned over by all the guys. Play around with your approaches and try some different lines and styles. Practice flirting with girls and teasing them, so they warm up to you more. Honestly though, from the sound of it your results don't seem too crazy. If only 150 or so of your approaches have been "real," and you've gotten some dates, makeouts, etc. I've probably done 300+ "real" approaches, and I got 1 lay from it, which took 2 dates. My first hundred approaches, which I logged in a notebook, I got exactly 7 phone numbers. That was it.

If you aren't already, hit online dating hard. Being a virgin sucks and is a major confidence killer. Once you get the vcard thing out of the way, dealing with women will feel a hell of a lot less intimidating. The thing about online is that everyone there is more or less equal, because the girl judges you based solely on how you present yourself on your profile. For me it's not so good yet because I still look like a fatass, and looks are everything online. But for you, shouldn't be a problem. Your vibe to the girl is entirely determined by what she reads on one webpage, and a few messages and texts, so there's a lot less to control, and you have more control over it. If you portray yourself as cool and popular to her, you are. If you portray yourself as a horny douchebag who will fuck her in the back seat of your corolla, you are. Play the numbers game with your preferred tactic and see what happens.

Yeah your fucked bro.

Good luck though.

Sweet advice dude.  I hate online dating I feel like im getting some guys leftovers...  I hate being picky....  Do you think a cycle would benefit me greatly?  I get about 50 % of numbers i approach pretty easily... its just they wont see me again and that sort of thing

One thing I did to reduce flakes was start setting up dates with the girl while your still talking to her in person. You give her an escape route if you get the number and then leave, because she can just ignore your texts, or say whatever she wants to you over text without feeling nervous because shes safely out of your presence which will influence her decision. Helped me alot, and don't start bulking with a shit load of ice cream and milk. It is so sugar dense you will just get fat. Dairy is usually not the best thing to have a lot of. One cup of milk is like fucking 12 grams of sugar for christs sake. Eat red meat and other calorie dense things. If you've been eating properly for a while now though and lifting heavy and you still look like this, consider a cycle. But only cycle if you know how to diet, because otherwise your just fucking with your endocrine system for no reason. If your really having trouble getting calories in, get the lowest sugar weight gainer you can find. Toss one of those back in addition to your normal diet and you will have an extra 1000 calories in your stomach. Pretty much guaranteed to break a weight gain plateau, and is WAY safer for keeping fat to a minimum than slamming like 10 cups of milk.

The only reason id consider is for other benefits such as facial looks improvement.  Its goign to hurt my hair and help my build but i'd need other benefits to really push me to do so. 

Are the reactions from girls really dramatic before/during your cycle?  do some girls seem not as into you when you're really jacked?  i'd be pretty depressed if i was still getting rejected during a cyc

Being a virgin sucks and is a major confidence killer. Once you get the vcard thing out of the way, dealing with women will feel a hell of a lot less intimidating.

magnus nailed it. i lost my vcard 2 months ago and prior to that it felt like a giant burden. before that i just felt like i was on the sidelines as it seemed like everyone was scoring whether here or in real life. i dont douche on my friends and im not going to but i was even surprised one of my friends lost his vcard before me but that was via his social circle and he doesnt do cold approach. at least when girls ask now i can honestly say im not a loser aka a virgin

i just feel so damn skinny that this "clean bulking" crap isnt working, or not fast enough at least.  Lean meats....  Whey and 2 % milk.... should i start gorging on icecream and whole milk?  reason why i ask is because of people who go stuff like GOMAD(gallon of milk a day)

clean bulking works it just takes time. dirty bulking on high sugar foods will make u fat

The only reason id consider is for other benefits such as facial looks improvement.  Its goign to hurt my hair and help my build but i'd need other benefits to really push me to do so. 

Are the reactions from girls really dramatic before/during your cycle?  do some girls seem not as into you when you're really jacked?  i'd be pretty depressed if i was still getting rejected during a cyc

You might get rejected a lot when your bulking, but once you have a good foundation of muscle and you do a cut cycle and retain all that muscle with gear and your shredded and decently big, the game is much more in your favor if your style is maxed out and so is your social freedom. Also, some people aren't predisposed to male pattern baldness. I have hardly noticed any difference to my hairline at all and I've taken a few cycles. And stop worrying about your jaw bro you don't need fucking surgery, just shave that red beard and when you get shredded your jawline will look good. I didn't get laid once while bulking. Then I fucked 10 different girls in 3 months while cutting. Granted I wasn't doing approaches while bulking because I hadn't found GLL yet, but if I was doing approaches and pof, I would estimate I might've got 1 or 2 lays from the same amount of approaches if I was lucky, and 0 lays from pof.

Just had another date.

Girl agreed to meet up with me in a parking lot.  Got in my car.  Held hands and made out. 

I texted her the next day asking if she wants to meet up and she says "where" i tell her where and she says IDK if i can.  then goes on twitter and says "why dont some people get the hint"

I literally feel like theres a giant cock on my forehead that no ones telling me about...