TOPIC: Been following GLL advice still 0 lays

Okay, great that you gave us a video and that you seem normal and cool, but stop apologizing, you should be thinking you're making their fucking day when u hit on them ! See, to women's egos, flattering male attention fulfills them almost in the same way as getting sex from the girl fulfills a guy so it's a clear transaction: you give her attention/positive incentive, she should give you sex.

However it's clear that you're presenting absolutely no sexuality whatsoever so don't expect to get sex until you become more ballsy and put sex on the table. you need to read all the article on GLL that you can, jot down some sexual sentences, work on sexual attitudes or whatever and go out practicing them until they become natural and you become the kind of guy who elicit emotional reactions from girls. "aww, he's friendly & nice" doesn't count.

I had this problem myself, and I'm currently working on it, When I have maybe more success and more competence, I'll write my learning process from an almost non-sexual guy to a supersexual guy.

Start speaking edgier! Dressing badboy (in DARK clothing and badass jewelry/accessories like dogtags, masculine steel or silver rings and leather bracelets) and swearing or just fucking swearing can make girls giggle and provoke gina tingles, cos they know they're talking to a tough guy that you can't just fuck with and call him bieber's butt buddy cos he doesnt shy away from confrontation.

also you come across soft&nice so you need to learn some "fight flirt" dynamic where you say some dope challenging shit like "you look like a tought cookie, are you? haha, maybe you think so but I could fucking take you in a boxing ring, do you believe that? oh, I would totally dominate&demolish you, but actually.... I dont wanna make you cry so I'm not gonna fight you... I will protect you from homeless rapists & evil squirrels instead, come here cutie butt" AND HUG HER!

Meanwhile, read http://www.boytoystory.com/sexual-innuendo-get-sexual-conversations/   and show us a video where you make innuendos to girls, you can DO IT!

I don't really know how to verbalize sexual intent.  I'm also a little cautious about that just until I know the girl is over 18 +.  That was a 2 set (2 girls) so telling them I thought she was cute was pretty forward.

  I say sorry as a bad habit from doing street/night game at 3 AM and having girls hold mace up to my face. 

Read my previous post for new edits, and read this one. Now you have no excuse. Go out there and BE UNAPOLOGETICALLY SEXUAL! You'll learn that it's acceptable and the way real men should be!!!

For a 2 set, instead of this innocent "you're cute", stepping up the sexualization would go something like this: "daaamnn, you're both so sexy I can't decide which one I wanna make out with first, hey come to papa, let's talk about it and figure out which one of you is more fun, wild and free/single"

Age is no problem, believe me! 17yo's dont get traumatized when you talk about sex, and you can always ASK in the beginning: "hey what's you age/ how old are you, anyway?" or "you're 18, right?"

Here's some SEXUALIZATION TIPS (not openers) I took from my notes. I've brainstormed many of these and some I've tested but not all, I'm just giving you an idea, you take from this what you will, create your own stories of this type or start with these, use your own mind to fit them into the social context, practise until it's congruent (it probably won't be the first 10 times)  and test it in the field and bring back a video, OK?:

0. damn! how'd you get those curves... you're like a sculpture goddammit
1."ooh lala" and the word "baby/babe"
2.you have the best fucking cleavage/curves/ass I've seen all day
3.that gives me a boner/I just got a boner, high-five! btw, you should take that as a compliment
4.mention "bending over" in any context, preferable about her bending over for you
5. youre being dirty and imagining me without a shirt arent you?
6.you should see me without pants
7.baby, i think it's sexy the way you do X
8.you're so sexy that I can't even concentrate on X / that I forgot X
9. I'm sorry to let you down but I've decided to be celibate for life... JUST KIDDING
11. can I say something a bit cheeky? you look like a girl who enjoys having her ears nibbled / neck kissed/ nipples played with. tell me how it feels for a woman to have ZYX done to them.
12. verbally reward anything she says/does: "I think it's sexy when you do/say X"
13. would you believe it I used to be crazy shy? I was too shy to even talk about masturbation/threesomes/sex on the beach/orgies/going skinny dipping/sunbathing naked, but now that I've been there and done that, I know it's totally natural as long as we don't judge, right?
14. don't you just hate how the media talks about sexuality, I mean they blow a simple nipple slip waaay out of proportion? what do you think, should we be ashamed of the natural human form, I don't think so. that reminds me when I went to this nude beach / when I as sunbathing nude... yada yada you get the idea
15.baby don't look at my like I'm nothing but a walking sausage/piece of man meat! I've have thoughts and feeling too. feel how my heart is pulsing [put her hand over your heart] and that's not the only thing right now that's pulsing for you (if u know what I mean...)
16.o-oh! you look like you're trouble. But I can handle trouble, so I might let you kidnap me to your home later
17.I need to know something: can you cook? alright, cos after you kidnap me for yourself, you better cook me a big meal and take care of me and my basic needs, (if you know what I mean)
18. Where are you from? (xyz) [shake head in disbelief] why why why, fuck, its always girls from xyz country who try to kidnap me...where do you live? Hmmm, I guess I just might get kidnapped, not sure yet.
19.haha, you're so cute/tiny, I could just put you on a big sliver platter and sloooowly eat allll of you from heeead to toooeee [elongating the words adds emphasis and makes it more sensual]
20. damn, don't say that / damn, stop saying/being like that, you're killing my boner, see it went doooown because of what you said/did   [this is your basic sexualized verbal punishment]
21. so you like dancing? I wanna see you twerk it baby. Show me how you twerk, don't be shy, shake that booty, mmm, you're making me sweat/gettin me excited just watchin u baby!
22. do you know what I would do to you if I was a male stripper? I'm sorry but I can't tell you yet, it would ruin your whole fantasy [or make up your own variation]
23. use words like cock, balls, vagina, pussy, tits, ass, nipples naturally in conversation. THIS TAKES PRACTISE!
24.I want to find out if we'd make a hot couple / I think we look hot together and we'd make pretty babies that would succeed in life [you can be holding your hand over her shoulder in front of a mirror as you say this. Another variation is to be in front of a mirror with you standing behind her, bodies pressed together, with your arms wrapped around her stomach and maybe holding her hands also]
25.So, do you remember what was the most embarrassing thing that happened to you? Well, when I was a little boy, I saw my parents having sex. I don't know if you've ever seen that but trust me, there's nothing worse than seeing 40-yos having sex. I saw nightmares about daddy making mommy cry for weeks, can you imagine what that was like for a child haha? Well I'm glad you and I are not 40 cos that shit was traumatizing
26.hey, got milk? you get milk from those titties? I can be your baby, I'm thirsty for a glass of breast milk haha! just kidding, I noticed you looked cute and I wanted to come talk to you, I'm Horny [this was my opener when I recently number-closed this receptive redhead and she texted back very soon, thanking me for my unique approach ]
27. Did you know that wearing underwear is actually unnatural for our bodies? Yeah, science has discovered that your genitals stay healthier when you let them breathe naturally and just hang loose...do you believe that is true? I think so, cos I always go commando and I feel fucking free and powerful!
28. Bring up these sex facts in a fun, normal, cool way: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4275048
So, for example: my biology nerd friend told me about something pretty cool: do you know what are the only 2 self-cleaning organs in the body? (hmm... let me think, I have no idea haha) the eyes...[point to your eyes] and the vagina [point to her pussy]. bet u never though of that, huh?"
Another example is saying something like: "Guess what? the no.1 device used most frequently by women when masturbating is... can you guess what it is? (haha umm... i dont know?) the candle! and the second favorite of girl seems to be the hair brush, can you believe that?
29.wait, hold on...[stop walking] I hate when this happens, I need to re-position my balls...[fix your crotch as if to put your balls in a comfortable position] okay good.
30. "too bad our relationship can't work out cos I've vowed to be celibate for life and I need to avoid all temptations and right now.... baby, you're making it very difficult for me to control myself. "
31. Watch Hank Moody in Californication for great examples of sexualizing conversations in a fun way
32. response to ANYTHING, even when she says hi, you say: "thats what she said"
33. show her any sex-related app you've downloaded on your smart phone
34. "I laughed my dick off"
35. does your bed have strong springs
36. That makes my pussy hard"
37. "eat a bag of dicks
38. can I be your sex slave?
39. guess what? im not wearing any underwear, I'm going commando today


Then of course non-verbal sexual screening in daytime is stuff like: Chris's bodyguard routine, holding on to her hand and petting it with your thumbs, high-fives and hugs. But in the daytime, you can come across creepy pretty easily if you go over-the-top.

But remember, you can use OTT shit like daytime kissing&makeouts or grabbing a girl off the street that you've been talking to for 5min in your arms for a hug, then spinning her around as practice for building character & dominance and tone it down later for real approaches. You just need tons of reference experiences, and you need to get it wrong to get it right!

Start speaking edgier! Dressing badboy (in DARK clothing and badass jewelry like leather bracelets) and swearing or just fucking swearing can make girls giggle and provoke gina tingles, cos they know they're talking to a tough guy that you can't just fuck with and call him bieber's butt buddy cos he doesnt shy away from confrontation.

also you come across soft&nice so you need to learn some "fight flirt" dynamic where you say some dope challenging shit like "you look like a tought cookie, are you? haha, maybe you think so but I could fucking take you in a boxing ring, do you believe that? oh, I would totally dominate&demolish you, but actually.... I dont wanna make you cry so I'm not gonna fight you... I will protect you from homeless rapists & evil squirrels instead, come here cutie butt" AND HUG HER!

Love ur style Horny. I always love the bad boy look . going to try speaking edgier more

Not being aggressive enoiugh verbally could explain why im not screening women good enough.  But it doesnt explain why i cant even get a girl to talk to me on the phone or get a girl to friend zone me

There is something seriously wrong with me or what im doing if I cant even get a friend, while doign this type of approach.  If you think about it, let's say im not even trying to get laid, lets say im trying to get a girlfriend or some other "weak" guy type of objective.  I have done so many of these approaches like in the video and i have nothing to show for it.  Just hundreds of phone numbers that will not respond to me and girls threatening if i dont leave them alone

My opinion on the fact that you can't even make friends with them, basing myself on your video ( which was not bad, just some stuff to change) is that you are not funny, cool, nice guy enough for them to be friends with you.

AND you can't get any to sleep with you because it does not seem that this is what you want. You do not screen hard enough. There is no sexual vibe going on.

SO you are in the middle.

For them, you can't be their friends(because lets face it, unless you do not want to be Justin's butt buddy you have no reason to approach her to be friends with her) Girls are not dumb they know that if you talk to them, it s because you want something from them.

And for them you can't sleep with them because your approach did not really imply it. Which leads to contradictions. You have enough balls to approach them, but not enough to do something about it.

Choose the side that you want to go too. The choice here is obvious unless you want to make crying post about friend zone on 9gag.

I always love the bad boy look

Props for having the nuts to put up a vid. It wasn't bad. I would have liked to have seen the 2 girls response at the end tho, even if she shut you down.

Throw on your sleeveless pink tee again, and go ask 20 women what they think of it. Do you want to look like a sexual threat to females, or like you're searching for a polesmoker mardi gra? You've been warned against pink already.

I can't recall GLL Chris ever saying to lead your interactions with a double apology either.

But anyways man. Keep going and tweaking, get some meat on ya and I reckon you'll do well.


@ Horny: Are all your suggestions for xmiaguy battle tested?

If you've ever worked in "ooh la laa", "come to papa" or "I'd like to put you on a silver platter and slowly eat you from head to toe" into the beginning interaction with a female, and it ended positively, I'd like to hear about it.

Maybe you make it work cos english works differently in Finland, not sure. But I reckon I'd get more pepper spray than pussy in my face if I were to follow your advice in these couple posts

You are doing ok. You are relaxed, and your energy is good.

All this talk of screening hard makes sense, but it really is for guys who want to get laid a lot and fast. For Chris, he can easily get 10 flake phone numbers in a day, but he rather screen hard and get 1 lay and 19 fuck-offs.

Before I found GLL I got 2 lays from day time approaches just being normal, no touching. It works too, but just more time wasted with flakes.

There are a lot of things that Chris does right that he doesn't talk about. He builds rapport super fast even though he said rapport doesn't matter. He targets girls that slot right into his persona - ex-jock banging cheerleader, homecoming queen. He also matches the girls sexy stereotype.

Assume instant rapport + sexy stereotype = instant sex.

Chris is damn good. All the other guys who are good on this forum probably have some strong fundamentals. Guys like Rooster, dc7, they were both ex-football player A-crowd kids. Other guys like Boytoy, Zuberi probably fit sexy stereotype right away.

Keep at it bro, I think your style is ok. You can experiment with darker, edgier out fit. Experiment, find your own path. Not all of us can be Chris clones.

I always love the bad boy look

Props for having the nuts to put up a vid. It wasn't bad. I would have liked to have seen the 2 girls response at the end tho, even if she shut you down.

Throw on your sleeveless pink tee again, and go ask 20 women what they think of it. Do you want to look like a sexual threat to females, or like you're searching for a polesmoker mardi gra? You've been warned against pink already.

I can't recall GLL Chris ever saying to lead your interactions with a double apology either.

But anyways man. Keep going and tweaking, get some meat on ya and I reckon you'll do well.


@ Horny: Are all your suggestions for xmiaguy battle tested?

If you've ever worked in "ooh la laa", "come to papa" or "I'd like to put you on a silver platter and slowly eat you from head to toe" into the beginning interaction with a female, and it ended positively, I'd like to hear about it.

Maybe you make it work cos english works differently in Finland, not sure. But I reckon I'd get more pepper spray than pussy in my face if I were to follow your advice in these couple posts

dude, to let u know this isn't my thread. xztop123 is the one who made this thread and that needs help. I HATE pink and would never wear it. I personally agree with Horny's methods because its similar to wat I want to come off as when i screen a girl and his way of thinking is similar to mines too but not completely. I rather look like a bad boy/douchebag then to look like some average guy. i know cause in Miami,FL, the guys that are with the hot girls look like douchebags. he wouldn't say like"I'd like to put you on a silver platter and slowly eat you from head to toe" when he approach the girl but in the conversation yea, its good to say it.

not only that its really good advice that he's giving to xztop123:Speak edgier,Dressing bad boy/douchebag(Dark clothing and badass jewelry) and swearing.

hey op
we both come from a similar starting ground
i started out at 5'8'' 122 pounds. wore glasses and dressed like a scenester faggot. think skinny jeans and vneck that showed off my weak chest. get rid of the pink shirt. burn it. i once wore pink and have since ditched it bc it looks very feminine and when i walked down the street girls were either giggling or they laughed at me right in my face

u said it urself u have low masculinity./ imo go workout. my starting weight was alot worse than u yet ive gained 40 pounds ever since. sober chicks arent gonna throw themselves at buff guys but being buff will make ur job alot easier
wear insoles and heel shoes to boost ur height
do masculine stuff like shoot guns and hit punching bags. and burn the pink shirt

Honestly I think the possibility that a low masculine face doesn't work for cold approach.  And thats the end of the story.  I'm goign to stick with it but I think that this is a very real possibility.

Like... The only girls that are going to give a complete stranger the time of day are girls who are innately a little bit slutty.  And those slutty girls want a guy with high sexual dimorphism.  Not a girly-guy.  They might be interested in that type as a boyfriend but a boyfriend is social circle status, and needs to be within that group.

Honestly I think the possibility that a low masculine face doesn't work for cold approach.  And thats the end of the story.  I'm goign to stick with it but I think that this is a very real possibility.

Like... The only girls that are going to give a complete stranger the time of day are girls who are innately a little bit slutty.  And those slutty girls want a guy with high sexual dimorphism.  Not a girly-guy.  They might be interested in that type as a boyfriend but a boyfriend is social circle status, and needs to be within that group.

Bullshit. I have a rather low masculine face (pretty much no chin, weak jawline, NO facial hair) and do more than fine.

I thought the exact same thing when I started out though- but trust me its not. if you come across as as ass kicking motherfucker it really doesnt matter