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Congratulations on the new forum! Before going further, I wanted to give you a long-overdue thanks for your response (and the response from that other non-admin guy) to my question regarding drink dynamics from several months back. Although the issue still isn’t completely resolved in my mind, your 6-point answer was, by far, the most intelligent treatment of this topic I have ever seen so far. Too bad it didn’t make the cut for the new forum, though …
Anyway, the main reason I’m posting is because I wanted tips on another relatively-esoteric topic: pulling a girl when you’re out of town and solo. Although I have achieved it before, I don’t think I’ve come anywhere close my potential in this area. Although there’s a plethora of material all over the Internet, etc., on pulling girls in general, a lot of that doesn’t apply with this (i.e., I don’t know the bartender or other workers at the venue, I don’t have social proof with other girls at the spot, and so on).
I don’t want to go into too much detail about myself, but, although I’m not by any means rich, because of the way I do things, bar/club-wise I generally find myself in places I'll only be for one night. Any help with this would be massively appreciated, as it has its own special challenges. Thanks!
I guess when your out of town its best to go for a same night lay.
In my experience, depending on how far it is I sometimes dont bother because the 'distance dynamics' or whatever are just too tiresome but they def. work for out fine if you just play the #s game untill you find a chick that likes you and happens to be living close to your city
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Thanks for the reply, Zuberi, but if I wasn't clear enough in the original post, I am specifically interested in the SNL when I am out of town. I don't care about exchanging numbers (except maybe for if I'm alone at the end of the night and one of us contacts the other which leads to an SNL)...
What I am looking for are specific tips that address the obvious (and possibly hidden) challenges with getting the SNL in a city where you don't know anybody, as a lot of the normal tips and techniques aren't necessarily applicable in such situations. Thanks again for any advice!
What's up dude! Are you saying that you have trouble with 'travel city lays' because you don't know people there? I can see your point. By building a foundation of friends and aquaintances, you can have social proof and stuff. This is all true and can easily get you hotter chicks and shit. But I have found that being the 'outsider' can be helpful too. Girls LIKE when i am the outsider. They don't want to get to know me. There's always an advantage of going back to the hotel too! Usually not too far away! Chicks love this! Is it different for you?
Thanks for the reply, NYA. Well, I kind of like being the "outsider" in a way (I'm a loner in general). But as you might guess, I'm also very introverted too. And a lot of the tips in the general PUA community seem to focus on building your social circle, being the guy that everybody knows, blah, blah, blah, so that when you show up, you get respect out the gate, and may even meet girls with barely any effort, as a cool guy you know might know some cool chicks, a cool chick you know might know some cool chicks, you would be Mr. Local Celebrity, etc.
Although my efforts have resulted in better than absolute zero success, I don't think I've come anywhere close to what I should be capable of. If girls don't want to get to know you, but are still willing to let you get into their pants, PLEASE let me know, especially as I'm someone who, while I don't like to lie, I generally don't like to reveal more than necessary either. Plus, of course, there are plenty of girls who, no matter how much you have going for you, aren't necessarily DTF that night, and may just be fishing for a new attachment (which I don't really want to be).
And, again, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot for guys with my mentality. So, if you have any tips, secrets, etc., on "outsider" game, I'm all ears. Thanks again!
I've spent some time on the road. This is what I've learned.
Pipeline: Use online dating sites to get things going ahead of time. Tell em you're new and need someone to show you around. Open with specific questions about a place or event and solicit advice as a newcomer. They will most likely help. Ask them to accompany you "as a friend" to some local event while you're there because you don't like going alone (they can relate).
Be bold: You're out of town. No one will see you again. Discipline yourself to approach every girl that attracts you. Step outside your comfort zone.
Screen Hard and Fast: time is your enemy. Start early and often and convey your attraction early on. Cut it off and move on when you know it's a waste. Escalate efficiently. Go for the lay foremost, be persistent but don't go too caveman. Settle for a makeout session with a day 2 planned only after you exhausted option 1. Consider a goodnight kiss and/or a phone number a complete loss (they most likely will be). The overall vibe you're going for is "I've never met anyone like you before, I'm not usually like this, this is sooo amazing".
A dirty little secret: If a girl knows she can fuck a guy with complete impunity she will be infinitely more likely to do so. This is why tourist girls on vacation are by far the easiest lays. No awkward social ramifications to deal with. No reminders. No tense BF run ins. Just easy sleazy. Use this knowledge. Be subtle and let her connect the dots, but convey that you have no ties to the area, have a discrete place, and are non judgmental. I.E. there's truly no downside for her with a ONS (or 2nd day lay). You can't be obvious about it she won't want you assuming she's a slut. But let the important details of your unique situation come out.
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