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newred: Keep up the motivation and crush your goals! The good thing about hip-hop and certain types of rappers is that they strive hard for success & pleasure & cool & sexy & real in life just like GLL.
ssk08: Yeah, you bet I'm killing fear of loss as I progress in my "journey". I know that nothing good lasts forever and I'm going to gain & lose things, but im still gonna experience everything emotionally cos im human. But the more shit I experience, the more shit I can handle.
I don't wanna get anyone pregnant, it would fucking ruin my finances cos I'd have to pay like 400$ or more every month. I don't want shit to do with women who want to be moms - unsexiest thing EVER is a hot young bitch becoming this "mom" who stops looking sexy. Yeah, delayed ejaculation is the term. I'll try to get hotter bitches and develop my imagination. I already read "Secret Garden" by Nancy Friday. It's a classic about real women's candid fantasies like getting gang-raped by black cocks, incest, horses&dogs fucking them.... all from THEIR own confession, man. Pretty hot.
The fuck you did today, Horny?
Despite lethargic mood, I continued crushing my AA and SA with a mix of everything I've learned/practised in the past and some new things like disagreeing about anything with anybody, which is safe way of practising verbal violence and mental dominance. Also started conversations with people in the train while purposely injecting words that I've not often used before in the conversation like: "fuck, motherfucker, sex, pussy, cameltoe, labia". Also told a man in a grocery store: "You should buy this, it's on sale" and put some meat product in his basket. Then told a fair-skin Finnish blondie after convincing her that her original hair color is jet black: "You should buy that bottle of mineral water (why) because you like it (how do u know i like it) because I said so (hahhaha))
15 ways to crush AA/SA for those brave explorers who can't wait to try new drills and new challenges:
Hahaha that's awesome ballsy shit right there. Last night this lady started talking shit for no reason to my mom and I was with her. I was like hell no, not my momma. So I said to the lady, "You know what you're a cunt." She shut her fucking mouth. But then my mom got mad at me for saying that in front of her. She told me she was afraid that I am abusive to women, Im very respectful to EVERYONE until they give me a reason.
Mom was all upset so I told her its just about not being a fucking pussy in this life and I apologized to mom but told her I only reacted like that because I love my momma. Haha
-Get a new job with higher salary (Done)
-Have visible abs (Inching my way there)
-Top 10% finish in Spartan Race for Males
-Top 10% finish in Spartan Race for Age
newred: you did the right thing. Brass balls, baby! Keep bitches in check, express love for real women!
Sun 30th 2012
Despite feeling lethargic cos I don't sleep too well in my shitty bed which has caved down in the middle, I did some SA/AA drilling and 4-5 approaches - mostly groups - today Sunday at 6-7PM. Drills included disagreeing with people about time and directions mostly, starting random convos, helping tourist chicks with directions, asking girls their cup size, asking if girls like long/thick cocks, telling people I bet they're virgins and pretending work in a store and asking shoppers if they need help.
Thrusting will get you the girls! - Today's cold approaches
1. A Ukrainian blonde traveling for a few days with her female and male friend were looking at coke in the store and I told them what they should buy, and then introduced myself, talked for 4-5min and at the end I suggested to go for a drink + number close, but she wouldn't give it, insisted on getting my number by smiling & saying "no number, no date". I declined, which I shouldn't have done. LESSON HERE!
2. Then I did something incredible which astounded me!! Before you read this, know that I don't remember EVER in my life having had the balls to AMOG anybody in clubs/night time etc, or "take" someone else's girls. There was a black dude of my size (with 3 or so homies I didn't really notice at first) chatting up an OK brunette and stunning young blonde outside the main railway station at like 7PM. He wasn't touching, distance between them was too long for it to work for him, so I went in and claimed what was mine, I claimed that PUSSY with the permission from Chris!! I really had no time to think, I just stood close to the girls between them, put my shopping bag on the ground and started wildly hip-thrusting like this vid and saying "party party! woo! do you girls like to party? whoo!"
Epidemic Of THRUST!
At this point you can already see that this type of opener is BALLSY and can NOT happen without a substantial base of social freedom exercises. It also requires you to basically not be thinking about consequences but just living fully in the moment.
OK, after my "stunt/prank/dance opener" made the girls laugh and pulled their attention away from the black dude, I went BOOM!! and put BOTH of my arms over their shoulders and their attention was fully on me, the other dude I could see from the corner of my eye just turning away and fading into nothingness. After that I don't rememeber exactly what I said cos I just free-flow from the top of my head but I kept talking english and pretended to be a tourist from another country (I was having SO MUCH FUN WITH THIS), introduced myself only after a couple of mins, succesfully used Scotty's line "no, this is a good hand, I'm gonna keep holding it", told them I love them, invited them out for a drink right then and there, taugh them a phrase in "my" language, just escalated (a little, not hardcore with 2 cops so close to me) on the spot.
The police didn't pay any mind to me, what I did AFTER the opener looked like just normal friends smiling and talking and holding hands. They came to talk to somebody only 10 feet away from me, so I asked the girls if there had been some crime and they said no. Then when I told blondie I wanna kiss her they suggested we walk in another direction cos they were meeting their friends, so I was like "ok, let's go" and took blondie's hand. The 3 of us walked for 2mins as I tried to convince them to ditch their friends and come drink at my place, then I pulled them next to a wall in quasi-private and told the blonde again I want to kiss her, got closer, but no, she turned her head away and her friend neutrally said "she doesn't want that" so as I had 1min to get to the train, I stupidly left without getting number. LESSON LEARNED - MORE PRACTISE NEEDED!
Thank you GLL, I would never have the balls to do something like this without having practised your drills and Seeing your videos. May all of you have success every day of your life!
Q: I was wondering if it even makes sense to be all boring&logical on the opener "hey, u seemed cute and I wanted to say hi" when you could instead communicate that times TEN with crazy fun thrusting/dancing prank openers when u have the necessary freedom? Wouldn't it actually make the BEST first impression to display a lot of social freedom? Damn, I just discovered 1 reason to do club game, which I used to hate.
Thanks for the reply, Amir. I think the default opener is becoming out of my character too because I'm getting more natural, comfortable and brave/socially free hitting on girls. I feel compelled to go a little wild and do things to amuse myself, which quite often are things that are out-of-the-norm, very spontaneous and something most people don't experience like... ever.
I like to stay optimistic and keep in mind Chris's advice that most girls lives are mundane affairs with school, work etc. and meeting me can be THE highlight of their day. You need to appreciate that and TXT me back, stupid girls!! JUST KIDDING, NO BITTER
Social freedom mind state shift:
I've had a mind state shift since I took a brake from cold approaching and came back from my Xmas holiday: I'm generally happier than ever, I'm having more fun in my interactions with women regardless of outcome, and I'm less afraid to put my real personality out there ie. express myself, use more facial expressions, use my voice and body more freely such as singing/dancing when I feel like it, speak my thoughts out loud even if they're perverted/shocking/abrasive sometimes etc. I'm getting a feel for speaking without thinking, and not censoring my personality!
Default opener change:
For now, I think this suits me well: "hey, I thought you were (fucking) cute and I wanted to come talk to you". I will definitely experiment prejecting more intimdation&strength&authority&"STOP" to see if cold Finnish bitches respond to that better now that their pussies are frozen because of the cold winter temperatures.
Cold approaches 2013:
Not a boatload of approaches so far, but most of them were more unique than before, not just going through the motions. They were more organic and a boatlod of fun for me ;D Perhaps its natural to have cycles between machine-gun approaching and longer, realer, more involved approaches. I'm very happy just talking to women and being engaged with them in social interaction, but I gotta get results too, eventually. It's just that lately I've been wearing glasses again since I lost my contacts and I think my sex appeal has lowered, I don't know.
I've gotten a couple of numbers so far this year. One of these number closes - a short hair blonde - told me as we were having a pretty fun interaction "so you're comfortable naturally hitting on girls whenever you see them walking on the street, aren't you?". I shouldn't have started justifying by telling her along the lines of: "Yeah, why wouldn't I talk to beautiful women who interest me and are worthy of my time". I should probably have told her how she should react instead: "No, you should be like: wow, this is the most wonderful thing that's happened to me all day. I never get tall, handsome men to approch me in the middle of the day, this is like the romantic fantasy I've always dreamed about, thank you so much!"
Don't you guys think that would be better for creating authority and building a fun relationship with her?
I have to be real with you guys. I've been doing some direct cold approaches for the past few days (indoors, cold winter). Not much, cos I've been approching very little for the past month and I have a hard time coming up with things to say at times. I'm very disappointed that nothing fucking works and Im not gonna keep doing what doesn't work - I try to do something different, so I go back and try to figure out WTF is wrong and change. I WANT TO CHANGE.
Since January 6th last post I've probably become outcome dependent again, totally fucked up my beliefs about women reading Chateau Heartiste's blog and somehow I just don't believe/feel I have anything to offer to women. It's unbelievable how fucked up gender dynamics are when women reward asshole behavior in guys and see any sign of kindness or being a decent human being as weaknesses.
I've always been a kind/respectful/agreeable man but I fucking hate the way I get shitty results from cold approaches by being, I don't know... friendly/kind/normal and cool to women. It just doesn't lead to any results. I read about studies that disagreeable men (assholes) get more women than chill, agreeable guys. I found out that violence towards other guys turn women on. I dont know if I'll have to start lying about being famous or a convicted murdered or something to get their vagina tingling.
In my experience, having above-average looks (just trust me on this for now), style and social freedom doesn't help me make succesfull cold approaches. I think the newest "SWAG factor" category - or how cool girls perceive you - is strange because it's nothing to do with you, it's to do with girls' perception of you. But the part about being able to relate and understand girls' lives is interesting... I've never had female friends/GF or talked about stuff like that with girls so I CANT RELATE. What a fucking loser I am.
What the fuck is wrong with me and my approach? Is my SMV too low? Is it cos I don't have money or cool stories to talk about because I've been a loner who stays at home for almost all my life? Is it cos I don't like going out in the nightlife? Is it cos I don't feel totally happy & worry-free like on tramadol? Is it because I'm not following my dreams and I'm living a boring life which almost feels meaningless at times?
My dad was a fucking beta pussy, my mom raised my up to be respectful, good person and now even though I don't have AA anymore and I can approach, I'm a fucking failure with women. What gives?
Why doesn't anybody talk about the issue of happiness and the fact that Chris and a many other people have said their results increase greatly when they're in an opioid-induced happy state? Why is HAPPINESS or LIFE SATISFACTION not the 4th factor and SWAG is? Why doesn't anyone talk about the fact that you wont be getting any fucking pussy from cold approach unless you have your WHOLE LIFE so together that you truly feel like the prize, you feel truly valuable every time u walk out the door?
God, Im so frustrated and right now looking for answers all over the internet, in the manosphere, dating/natural PUA/anti-game blogs etc. is sooo fucking difficult. I've tried to read other self-improvement sites and blogs too but the reality about women only liking abusive, uncaring, cheating alpha assholes with high social status and some mysterious x-factor is fucking bringing me down big time.
Why do I lack order and direction so much? Why am I still such a pussy after reading this site and all the other sites on the internet, basically?
Go ahead, give it to me straight, I'm not sensitive. I've learned to take criticism like a MAN. I WANT TO BE A REAL MAN, not a confused 26-year old kid!! I'm not too dumb to understand the dating advice I read online but I may be too undisciplined and lazy to apply it in the right way.
SSK: I love to listen to music, play instruments, travel, try new experiences, enjoy the company of my friends. My total approach numbers are about 250. I will put up more numbers for sure. I'm changing things up and stepping my game up as I increase my skills and gain experience.
Jan 23th 2013
I had a hard time sleeping last night because some good new experiences happened yesterday and I was blown away by what can happen!
Ex-model blonde number close: 8PM. I had been shopping for shoes downtown and screened 5 girls with no success/numbers. Then I came back to my hood and went to get some groceries. Lo and behold there was a 23-25yo super tall thin blonde there that immediately caught my eye and impressed me even though that body type is not my ideal. I went up to her with a qualifying: "Hey, exactly how tall are you?" She was like: "184cm" (6 feet). As I'm looking upwards to her, I'm like: "I'm 6 feet too, but I don't have high heels on like yours". We chatted for 5mins, she told we she used to model and now she sells clothing. I didn't act the least bit impressed, just told her "ha! I knew it" etc.
I then asked what evening she's free in the near future. She told me "tomorrow I get off work at 6", so now I'm actually making plans with her before pulling the number. This is Scotty's way of doing things and I think it's more solid. Anyway, the girl was nice, asked me questions early on, told me she can't wait to tell her roommates what just happened etc. I told her: "No, don't tell them, let's just keep it a secret". She smiled and agreed. Good girl. You can recommend me to your roommates later.
(BTW, We were supposed to meet today but she had to work later than expected, so we'll reschedule.)
Went straight to girl's home after first meeting her at around 9PM:
Turns out she lives in the same building as me, recognizes my face from Facebook and invited me to hang out with her and female roomies who were drinking. I went there after 30mins with some ciders&beers. Mind you, I've never gone from meet to her place this fast. Of course I was thinking: GROUP SEX IS A POSSIBILITY!
So when I get there, we eat some nice food she prepared & talked. I also got to know her 2 drunk little roommates and screened them a bit but they need more time to warm up to me. I didn't exactly know how to naturally pull their numbers not to mention going for sex in this situation that I've never been before. I assume I'll be going to their place again so I didn't stress about it.
My little blonde had a butch lesbo-looking friend over that she wanted to talk with so we agreed to meet maybe Saturday, so I got her number and left. I know BoyToy would've already slammed all 3 girls against the wall and had an orgy or something but I had a hard time believing I was there so fast in the first place. Plus, I was tired.
In short: my faith in screening is restored. I can't exactly explain how surprised I was that after 5 girls not giving me their number, one super tall girl did and then another one invited me home straight away!! I'm blown away and that's why I could hardly sleep last night. I'm happy. I'm strong. I can do this!
Jan 24th 2013
Using SSK's opener, I pulled 1 number from a cute brunette who was in disbelief that "this is happening" haha. I even said the words "are you stupid" to her, but not in a mean way.
Good news first: I've matured as a person and as a " cold approacher" to the point where I feel no surge of adrenaline/anxiety on 95% of my approaches, just mental hesitation if girl is a stunner. No problems with phone anxiety either lately. Me and my asian FB fuck every few weeks. I've gotten around 4 daygame numbers during the last week out of around 25 approaches yet they've all been flakey, so no dates. Touching has mostly been (extended) handshake and goodbye hug, but that works for BoyToy
too, although I shouldn't compare myself to him, his accomplishments cannot be replicated by 95% of men. Anyway, I still have no social live that women are a part of so I HAVE to cold approach whether it works or not.
Today I even wore my new 750$ Gant jacket (bought it second-hand for 50$) out yet nothing changed. Actually my state (happiness) was lower than usual when I didn't get the positive reactions out of women that I expected. LESSON: Do not expect any outcome. Lose your ego and your false sense of identity as a "cool/sexy guy, player, pimp, succesfull with women" whatever...
This Russian blonde who's my neighbor kinda plays me on the phone. She would answer my txt, then answer my call and would seem distant, not talkative and say "ahh, I just came from work and I'm tired, call me later" and when I call her 80 mins later, she doesn't answer and doesn't apologize by text. I know this means she just isn't DTF even though she invited me to her house last week cos she knew me from FB and we ate pasta and I met her 2 girls roommates. I don't have the roommates' numbers though, so I ideally, I wanna get invited back to her place again. HOW?
I have a 3-week beard and a couple of teenagers that I've approached have said I look old. I don't want to look too old for any young hot chicks who're legal so I'm gonna trim the beard or just shave it altogether, we'll see.
It's too bad I don't know what's really holding me back from getting abv.average women
cos arguably my looks, style and social freedom are above-average so I have two major things to work on: "Relating to Hot Women on Relative Socially High-Value Subjects" which I don't understand much about, and improving my inner game which isn't the focus of this website so I'm looking at some other forums too. I want to use my time and yours most efficiently so if I notice that no one cares to discuss certain deeper topics here, I will talk about them elsewhere. I still love this place but hope someone beside my buddy Amir
would reply to my thread.
For those who care about deep inner game, these 3 quotes illustrate the level of inner game I want to achieve. What do you think, BS or not?:
-It’s only once you’re able to get to a place where you don’t need women that you’re ever really going to get the success you want because you’re not putting any pressure on them to be responsible for your life.
-Create the kind of life that excites you when you wake up in the morning, and you have trouble getting to sleep at night because you’re so excited about tomorrow. Then, when you have that life for yourself, go out and find people that you want to be part of that life.
-the skill to create the experience he desires, regardless of how the world responds to him gives him an unshakable inner confidence that shines through in everything he does. He doesn’t need to get anything from her as his life is internally fulfilling and rewarding and so can just share the happiness and satisfaction that he has with her.
I would have to definately agree with your 3 quotes.
I've had (breif) periods in my life where I honestly couldn'y give two shits if I was getting laid today, tommorrow, next week or next month. It seems to me whenever I get to a stage like that in my life, girls will begin to come to me, but when I chase they want to run.
If you take a minute to think about it it makes sense.......
It's seems to be the "natural" flow of things. Push and Pull.
After coming to this site I feel like my looks, style and social freedom have all improved (especially style and social freedom... looks to a lesser extent). But yet I feel like I haven't really become more attractive to women. but then again maybe my brain just needs time to process the changes that have taken place. after all this has all been very rapid ~6 months. which is way faster than any of this would have happened had I done it on my own.
Whenever I begin to write about stuff like this I ramble. im gonna cut this reply short.
I think that in order to be a succesful player. you have to legitimately WANT to be a player and FEEL like you really are one. I think right now im still just faking it.
Im back. I'm putting myself through the AA program. No more excuses.
Yeah, I've had brief periods of outcome independence too. Mostly when I'm absorbed in work/hobbies/life. But when I come out of that trance and look around to see if there's any women to satisfy my sexual desires, there's none. I've never had a life where I have women around me, and I want that. I want female friends so that I can relate to their world and know the socially relevant topics to discuss.
I don't know about that natural of push/pull. Any pussy I've ever gotten was due to me actively putting the moves on a ho from open to close. They never came to me. I don't expect them to unless I've built a huge social circle, look like a Hollywood star or I've gotten famous.
Yeah, I don't know if I like that label "player". There's something inauthentic about that.
Yea, I think that the word player does accurately describes SOME guys. Does it describe me accurately... I dont think so.
I am just starting out tho. I need to stick with this for a few years at least before I can make the final decision on that.
One day when I acheive a "player" lifestyle. Then I can decide if its right for me... or not.
At the end of the day it can never possibly be a bad thing to improve your looks and your social skills.
Im back. I'm putting myself through the AA program. No more excuses.
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