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Oct 23th - Date with Italian G-tits girl went sour but i learned something about what i dont want
Ok, I admit. A huge rack clouded my perception and I wasted an hour on a date that didn't wanna hold my hand cos it was "too soon and I dont even know anything about you other than your name".
The first min I was weirded out by her attitude: she was feisty, boisterous and unfeminine. She took anything fun I said too seriously and literally. I could sense she would love to turn the drama volume up if I had started putting her in her place so I tried to play it cool, change her emotions not her mind... but no, "I am the way I am. I talk a lot and I speak my mind", she said.
I have met woman who are women. They never act this way.
I just looked/talked about her tattoos, tried to find common ground and keep things fun but soon realized she was a negative person as she kept on talking about her world views.
The initial interaction a few days ago was in hurried circumstances and I didn't get a chance to touch her properly, or even give a hug. She was actually bitchy and dismissed me with a flick of a hand (yeah, I know, what an attitude) after she gave me a number and got into a sticky situation that I had to walk away from cos I wasn't part of it.
Yesterday she called to sweetly apologize to me and that's when I'm like "ok, fair enough" I set up a coffee date with her. But like I said, a girl who won't hug you back and won't hold your hand as you're walking across the street in the beginning of the date... ABSOLUTE WASTE OF TIME IF U WANNA GET LAID.
My rule from now on: if she doesn't accept my leadership, I will give her no further attention.
My rule from now on: if she doesn't accept my leadership, I will give her no further attention.
couldn't agree more.. playaaa . I am recently getting tons of boring, not romantic, not edgy bf seeker time wasters too. I tell myself having a strong game plan with ALPHA attitude is the way to go..either the bitch falls into it and gets sized or gets lost while smashed. no second thought..no look back
@CJ yup, the way these bishes act is teaching me to value myself & my time more
@stylish: yeah, I agree with those sentiments. gotta hone my screening until I dont get the wrong kind of women anymore.
- Today I had a date with a tall teen blondie. I'm 6ft and her eyes were like almost at my level and whoa that's hot and yeah i would totally fill your juicy teen pussy
Anyway, let me get serious here and say that within the 1st minute it becomes pretty clear whether or not she trusts your leadership and will submit to it and believe it can lead her to a better place OR whether she's experiencing fear and doubt which make her resist and blow herself off the date and out of the chance of receiving intoxicating orgasms later.
1.will she greet you warmly with a long hug and not push away or get weirded?
2.when you move, does she move, and when you stop at the lights does she stop like a well-trained dog? or do her expectations and wants conflict with yours? cos all the girls I've fucked had little problem going wherever I would lead them, hmmm...
3.will she accept the crucial handholdand relax?
4.when you tell her that the place you're going is "just over there" and "it's a surprise, you're gonna like it, "oh it's my favorite spot, you'll see later why"" does she say "ok" and smile in anticipation/excitement or does she keep pestering you with the question "where are we going? no, tell me where we're going"
Those checkpoints should tell you within the 1st min whether it's worth spending any more minutes with her.
This little blondie insisted that we can't hold hands because "we don't even know each other well". How disappointing, just like Wednesday's chick. This is what you get when you take hurried numbers in under 2mins from girls who are right about to get on public transportation and have no time to stop & engage with you for real = FAILED DATES and ZERO CHANCE TO GET LAID.
I dont care what anybody says: a connection with a woman is primary. the #-close is secondary. it's just a logistical tool through which to get a chance to see her again and further YOUR CONNECTION. A real connection is not build in 2mins with frivolous small talk.
5min daytime instapull to my apartment - we had one drink, touched a bit, talked and that's pretty much it.
After that failed 5min date I just happened to open a decent 35yo brunette on the street who was just arriving from work and lived in the same area, so it was no biggie for me to yank her by the arm and smooth-talk my way through her objections to bring her to my apartment for a relaxing after-work beer.
Opener used: it's Chopan's (from mASF archives) best qualifying direct opener: "there is something somewhat attractive about you, but I don't know what it is. Do you know what it is?"
I sat her on my sofa and began to work on her physically, emotionally, mentally and sexually. She wanted to keep her distance and wasn't open enough to physical advances for me to begin true sexual escalation like kissing and more. She left after the beer, doubtful we'll hang out again cos I believe she is on the prude time table, not my fast&wild sexytimes timetable, and her ASD defenses are way up just like all 33+ women are, says relationship expert Blackdragon.
@ssk08: good tips, thanks! If she doesn't connect with me, theres nothing else I can do but let it be and find another bish. There's plenty of bishes in the sea, but too many give me the BF excuse and I haven't managed to crack that problem yet even though their BF means nothing to me, I dont give a motherfuck, I dont believe in monogamy.
Oct 26 - put sexy black/red rockstar-type outfit on and hit the mall.
Cold approach is a mindfuck cos even though in my own mind I look like a masculine attractive guy with a good beard and all but, many girls dont see me that way and I don't feel that sexy/attractive deep down cos I'm not getting enough validation from girls like some hot guys who hang around girls a lot and get compliments and introductions to their friends. (I'm not gonna break it down but similarly to ssk08, percentages are low for f-closes. they're good for #-closes though) I guess some do, though, and give me the number, although it's always me asking it from them which is fucking lame compared to what fellow forumite Real gets. I want some girl to dig my swag enough to ask me to hang out or even ask for da number. Delusional, maybe.
Here's my personal HB9 - a Finnish 17-18yo tight brunette with a valley girl -style bimbo voice, feminine&girly, does sports to keep fit, naive, bimbo & hot. As I was caressing her little teen hands they felt sooooo soooo soft that they got me horny. Let's be real here - all women who seem/act/speak smart pale in comparison to sexiness to these "bimbo"-type girls whose favorite hobbies are makeup, nails & hair. My idea of heaven is me playing guitar & hanging out and having sex with a big groups of naked bimbos whenever I want
She was in a clothing store with her friend and hurried me with the number close cos she has to go shopping, and she hasnt even replied so far today so I cant realistically expect this to turn into anything.
@amir: yeah man, you should be getting compliments for that. you should be making girls knees weak cos I believe that women feel more attraction/turn-on that they're showing. they must be hiding their emotions cos they love sex & get more enjoyment than we do for fuck's sake!
late virginity: yeah, that's a strange thing. I blame my father: if he could've taught me to be a fucking man who always escalates and goes for pussy in elementary school and up, I could've become a good, tall natural who's banging chicks by age 13-14!
BTW, Last week I befriended another cool alpha guy like myself in the library of all places. I randomly went up to him from behind and squeezed his arm muscles cos he was showing off a little by wearing a tank top (Yes, I'm a bit of prankster). Then he asked me "have I met you before?" and we started talking.
Although hes just 18, he's like BoyToy - mature beyond his years. He's apparently The Popular Kid and showed my some modeling pictures of his. Our conversation STARTED by me telling him that all I do is hit on girls, I dont believe in monogamy and that I'm arranging a threesome with my FB and my buddy. The I told him, "c'mon, let's go hit on girls". That's how you screen alpha friends ;D
And it only got more interesting from there cos he could relate to almost everything I talked about and he had all the self-improvement and self-actualisation interests that I had, except he's so popular (+looks) that he doesn't need to cold approch to have a sex life and I DO. Right now hes in a LTR with a Russian model. Go figure...
I'm probably gonna make good friends with this guy, get to know plenty of hot teen chicks, increase my SWAG and understanding of what the youngsters I wanna bang consider cool these days. He gets a loyal, honest no BS friend and a cool "big brother" with life experience from me. Win/win!
And if I teach him to cold approach, I can see how a cool guy who's lost his virginity early does it, and seeing that can hopefully teach me something useful that makes me more normal/relatable to girls or SWAG factor or something....
Today I came across a tall 20-something brunette on cold approach who I asked after maybe about 8+ mins: "so, tell me about your last real relationship? how did it end?" She told me she cheated on the last 3 boyfriends she had (!!!) My heart sank as I heard this. I suddenly went from feeling good and happy to feeling sad and disappointed.
I didn't wanna say anything more to her. Like, suddenly the fun and indifference of a pickup just turned all too real for me as I happened to be very emotionally attuned because "I choose to experience this moment" is the skill I'm cultivating in my presence practise right now.
So, I just turned and walked away feeling this beautiful, authentic sadness within me. I didnt even THINK this as a thought but I got an immediate SENSATION or KNOWING that I could empathize with the misery and pain of the guys she cheated on (who were naive enough to not know about "chick logic" and how women are inherently not bound by logical "rules" as their emotions are their Superiors) even though I've never been cheated on, but I know that betraying a person's trust is morally the lowest , scummiest thing you could ever do.
In the mindstate I'm in now, having just started my Presence Process journey, that woman could've been my HB10 at first, but the moment she revealed she had betrayed the trust of her partner, she would have instantly turned into motherfucking disgusting pile of shit in my eyes that I wouldn't wanna touch with a long stick and that I would never wanna fuck.
The poly frame (Blackdragon and others) is just so much more honest & free: no one owns anyone, has any need to feel jealousy or tries to change their partner. No one makes empty promises. Just love/sex/whatever on your own terms, and with more than 1 person if you like.
Am I ready to ever ask that honest relationship question again and to hear some painfully truthful answers? Time will tell....
@axis-v: thanks for offering your thoughts. they're pretty much in line with my red pill knowledge too. I don't believe in monogamy. I think people create suffering for one another when they think they be faithful with only one person. I think polygamy is gonna become more popular as people realize that monogamy generally does not work.
@ssk08: Yeah, what you say makes sense. I have avoided the topics of past relationships and cheating with women before but the more I talk about it, the more I will get perspective on this. Regarding you last paragraph: yeah, I can see how being cheating on can either MAKE OR BREAK a man.
Anyway, next time I talk to cheating women, the emotional charge of this trigger is going to be less, because when I sit with and experience the feeling fully without denial, it discharges and moves to a point of completion, just like AA drills. But it's not like I will lose my compassion and empathy - it is in fact one of my strengths and my high-value traits. It's something which I draw upon in this cold world.
I guess this is one of those "welcome to the Matrix"/red pill -things. Players entice some girls to cheat, but then again, she's already unfulfilled in her monogamous relationships on some level cos her man is not meeting her needs so Fuck it, it takes two to tango.
I can not evolve as a human being through denial. I can only evolve by facing everything that causes fear and/or stirs me emotionally. I will talk about relationships with women. I will become emotionally "OK" with any topic, especially now that my plan is to make friends with hot chicks to make some social circle game happen.
Well well, sexy 1st date today with 20-yo student blonde.
After the last 2 lame girls who didnt even wanna hold hands, it was cool to come across a receptive girl. So cool cool cool to come across cool chicks who can hang and who understand life and not sexually non-receptive lameos, psshhh!
We hung out for 1h playing pool & flirting mutually, I especially liked how she responded to me saying "I would totally beat you at wrestling" as I had my arm around her shoulder, our bodies real close. Her: "we'll just have to see about that later"
most of the touching I did received zero resistance. I touch women to turn ME on. She was at ease with me placing her hands on my shoulders/waist. She was at ease with everything, I felt relaxed arousal, it was like the perfect symphony and harmony of masculine direction and feminine submission.
She also looked in my eyes with admiring anime/puppy dog eyes and has that same smiling/ easygoing/ accepting your leadership/ submissive/ "you can do whatever you want with me" DTF vibe as the last fuckbuddy I got, so this one's in the bag. I leave kissing for when I'm at my place, btw, but she got a hug as we said goodbye.
2nd date is gonna be her pretty much her coming over and "watching a movie". I'm looking forward to it... and after seeing the Swag King's gains in a tight tanktop, she is also salivating & looking forward to it very, verrry much...
This is my one of my motivations for busting my ass/whole body at the gym 3 times a week currently: to be able to identify as the lover, not provider to women. To truly believe that I am sexy. If you don't feel sexy about yourself, are you gonna turn women on? I don't think so. All succesfull players actually feel SEXY and they know it
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