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I appreciate it boys! And yes, you can read about stuff I experiment with right here in this journal. My life (and my youth) is ending one second at a time, so I'm taking the bull by the horns.
MAN UP: I'm currently being patient with these hos and having maximum FUN with them on 1st date, then giving them a chance to fuck on the 2nd/3rd date... I'm figuring out how this all works the best for ME
I'm doing the type of escalation that works: hugging, kissing cheeks, holding hands, interlocking fingers, claw/ arm over shoulder, bumping hips or pushing the to the side when walking next to each other, pushing/punching arm/shoulder, stroking hair, touching ear, slow-dancing, lifting their body in the arm and carryign them to my room, kissing, massaging shoulders arms legs asses, and finally sometimes making out, but only if I'm gonna go for sex after. I dislike making out, kissing lips is soooo much more sensual and just feels nicer. Yeah, I kiss/suck her ears too when we're slow-dancing sometimes
Today I txt/called some girls and hung out with my buddy, GLL member Thomas and I showed him how to talk to girls and hopefully inspired him to achieve success. It made me feel very pumped & enthusiastic to tell him about the stuff that's been going on in my life and how I've put a lot of effort in the game lately and had new experiences and broken new ground! Soon I believe all this work will turn into lays, which I will try and convert to FBs and MLTRs.
I will never be monogamous but I will try MLTRs and I have a plan of finding a kinky "no.1 girl" or two to go to (semi)public places with like pools, saunas, parks and having sex while others watch, then I want to tie her eyes and have my friends fuck her too without her seeing whos's cock is inside her. I get excited by the thought of that and my ideal naughty girl should get fucking excited&wet about it too!
My self-belief and strength of reality is growing and it shows in almost every interaction - I'm more at ease when approaching, no one bothers me for example when I talk to girl after girl after girl in the train because they can sense I'm not a little pussy typical obedient socially-conditioned Finn boy who's gonna take it and cave to social pressure, I'm more likely gonna embarrass them in front of the whole train carriage. I'm a Man of the World now, I want to save money and travel more cos could go to any country and do this shit now, and somewhere in the world I KNOW is a country where I'd get laid a fuck ton more than in this stuck-up country, but I'm gonna make the best of it while I'm here FOR SURE!!
I'm in a phase of killing my SEXUAL SHAME now so I touched a little more than "appropriate", tried to kiss a girl during the day and talked about obscene sexual things during my cold approaches with girls - no wonder I didn't get any numbers today, but it's fine, I'm getting better at being bold & sexual like no one else in this country. I'm a motherfucking fuck phenomenon that is going to fulfill all the unmet sexual needs of women in this country. BTW, here's a funny shit test I hear sometimes: "but I'm fifteen"... ;DD jk
Yes amir, that's literally what I'm gonna do: fuck the Nordic countries ;P
Thomas is a good guy, so I think it's unfortunate that the expression of his personality is not developed enough where he can stimulate me in a social situation enough to compel me to hang out with him 1-on-1 more often.
It's a very uneven balance between us where I do 80% of the talking and he does 20%. And I always encourage him to open up and share his thoughts, feelings and experiences but it's not stimulating for me to hang out with him yet so I'm looking for guys on my level from other places so we can grow faster&better together and I'll be meeting with local guys from another big self-improvement forum soon - maybe these guys will draw me into some crazy debaucherous liver-abusing nightlife game (just kidding... about the liver)
I hope Thomas makes plenty of friends and develops his expression, personality, charisma etc. all these things take time... I recommended that he start with the GLL AA program cos he hesitated with simple drills I gave him. Let's not talk about full-on cold approaches yet until he learns to talk talk talk talk and be normal & more human & innocent & fun & real & cool & engaging
My new LR "Horny bangs a 5 for the lulz " is in the Bang Her LR section, so check it out, it's pretty funny.
Anyway, I was recently at my musician friend's birthday party and later on in the night I ended up in the sauna with 3 naked young chicks, how's that!
How did that happen, you ask? Well, Finnish sauna culture has an acceptence for the naked human body and families enjoy the sauna together without clothes and the same goes for (mixed) groups of friends like students who are all from the same class/group.
I was new to this group of free-spirited musicians, and I hadn't seen my friend for years, but they all trusted & accepted me because I have grown into a mature alpha male who's quit porn and masturbation for life, become masculine, normal, friendly, cool and personable, not like a weird leering porn-addicted perv who hasn't gotten any in ages, so the girls (ages 19-28, I think) didn't have any problem being naked with me, which I liked
2 of the chicks were probably single (1 bangable, 1 not really my type - zero curves) and the 3rd the hottest girl's BF was there in the sauna with me. We were all sober, BTW. I didn't "try" anything, I just hung out with them as friends and celebrated my buddie's birthday. Is that wrong? I had just gotten laid the previous day so I really didn't feel the need to "get" anything from these chicks and social circle isn't supposed to be about "approach approach approach, then close hard!" like cold approaching, right?
We joked about plenty of sex topics in the sauna, made innuendos and planned to go streaking or running naked across the block, fun stuff like that. I really enjoyed the vibe and since I haven't experienced this before, I wanna make this type of thing my lifestyle - I am a free-spirit musician scumbag with no sexual shame who fits in well with others of my kind.
Group sex orgies [/b]
I mean, I wanna get an open-minded FB/MLTR to bring her to these kinds of events and "share" with the other guys and vice versa, so we can all be free, we can all fuck! Where's the fun in 1-on-1 sex when you can probably enjoy the vibe more in a big group of friend just like if you were having a night out?
Just take this night a step further and a few drinks further and we'd all be having group sex in the living room, everybody in a state of bliss, now wouldn't that be some flower child hippie shit or what? )
Nice man! I enjoy reading your log, keep up the solid progression to becoming a fucking BEAST!
Random facts about my cock (updated regularly):
*Lived a pretty sedentary life until his late 20's
*Loves to get his feet wet
*has his fingers in many pies
*never puts all his eggs in one basket
*has a tendency to throw up when rubbed up the wrong way (or right way)
*prefers vaginas, though he tried an ass (girls only) once and found it quite enjoyable
2nd date with girl who turned out to be too much of an asocial sarcastic negative weirdo with personality issues and sleeping problems for me to waste one more minute of my legendary life on. WE'RE DONE, haha! Thinking about a certain SUPER CURVY BOMBSHELL Russian I number-closed the other day makes my standards so clear on this type of shit behavior that I have no time for, I'm built for bigger things.
1st date with late 20s ponytail blonde (GOD, DO I LOVE THOSE) in a skirt and nice cleavage. Gets my humor, I enjoy conversation with her, she's cool with sexual talk cos of her maturity, she's got beauty, brains and nice shade of red nail polish, it's ALL GOOD
Same routine as usual, 2-hour date ending up on my bed charming the fuck out of her, talking&acting sexual, innuendo all over the place like never before, a bit of neck kissing/ear licking/wrestling on my bed, yet ending just before the makeout so she can masturbate and dildo herself to sleep while fantasizing about me until our 2nd or 3rd date when I will make the BANG happen
Guys, I'm becoming more competent and evolved and I'm in the place right now where I can arrange a date for almost each day of the week with a chick from daytime cold approach (although I don't have the energy for that). Of course I still do things that make some not have a 2nd date with me, but that's bound to happen. Therefore I'm naturally going to be selective and go for hotter and hotter girls so I don't waste my limited time with average janes. I just need a minimum of 1 FB/MLTR to have this beginning level of abundance mentality.
I have the attitude that this is all just fun and games in a sense that I don't need anything to "happen" on the first date, I'm happy with getting to know and kissing a girl and have fun knowing that I will always fuck some of these girls some of the time, and I don't need to stress about sex cos IT WILL HAPPEN, IT'S NO BIG DEAL
Hey man I really like your laid back attitude on the first dates. I guess in some cases (maybe yours, maybe mine too) we come across more confident and sexy when we show her that we don't NEED the sex, although we def want it and could make it happen...
“There’s no reason to have a Plan B because it distracts you from Plan A.” - Will Smith
“Repetitio est mater studiorum” - old Latin proverb
Jason: yes, this country hasn't changed - I HAVE CHANGED! ))
FlyingDutchman: Yeah, laid-back attitude conveys non-neediness. Not getting angry when sex doesn't happen on teh 1st date and smiling to her as she's leaving instead conveys abundance and again, non-neediness.
Date 1 today with shy conservative 18-yo blonde from a wealthy family. She was hesitant to touching, even basic stuff like long hand-holding. I coudl see she was anxious and even with all my talking and gentle leading I wasn't able to get her to relax and enjoy herself so obviously - her attitude was her problem. She was knee-deep in social conditioning, saying that: "it's a pity that you're like a free spirit wild child cos I think having a job and a stable future is important". I'm like bitch, are u kidding, sniff some coke off my dick, BITCH!! Fucking boyfriend seeker, get lost.
She had to leave after 1h, maybe an excuse. Doubt I or any other man could get her turnt up, crazy and wild enough to have sex unless I do the boyfriend thing. I NEED FUCKING WILD GIRLS, young loose hotties who've already done 3-somes with their dad and sucked 2 black guys at recess! I have no time for lame girls like this one. Again, I didn't screen this one hard enough, didn't put sexuality on the table enough.
Kids, this is why you don't hit on women in the quiet city trains if you want DTF girls: it's an environment where you can't be sexual enough to screen these loser BF-seekers out!!
its hard to say with those types, you def. know more than I do about the rich, conservative girls in your country.
ive found my way into more rich conservative girls pants than I can count, some of which acted like such princesses initially.
'conservative' in this country is probably different than where you are though. its just a matter of feeding them some drinks and reaffirming that you aren't like the other pussies they usually 'date' from their social circle
girls "against" hand-holding are virtually impossible. they dont even touch themselves. even if you were to score- it would be boring
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""it's a pity that you're like a free spirit wild child cos I think having a job and a stable future is important". I'm like bitch, are u kidding, sniff some coke off my dick, BITCH!! Fucking boyfriend seeker, get lost. "
Chris: yeah, good thing about getting dates with these types of girls is it gives me more insight into their world - "the swag factor", if you will.
So, I was at this social circle party (after 9pm so nightgame I suppose) with people from a certain building with the primary goal of expanding my social circle/making friends and secondary goal of screening chicks (for numbers only tonight).
I started the night slow as I only knew a few people. I become wilder, freer and got more social momentum as the night progressed (but no alcohol). I easily made friends as I always do when it's an international crowd - I'm more fascinated by people from other countries than by Finnish people.
After 1-2 social warm-up sets I hit on a few girls directly or ehm... semi-directly. I quickly got the impression that most of the girls her were more about getting to know the people from their building (on a platonic level) rather than being hit on. Most took their hand away pretty soon from my extended handshake and wanted to keep it nice & friendly, but not flirty. They kept smiling & laughing to me, indicating they enjoyed my company and I gave them good emotions, but maybe this wasn't the time and place... btw, who knows about social circle game here on GLL? not me.
Regardless, I made an effort to give give give from my personality, make connections, bring the party, bring the energy, be social with guys and girls, and then hit on the hottest girls (2-3 hotties this night). I'm not used to hitting on girls in social gatherings where some of my non-game friends are so I felt I was try hard and not centered at times. I'm 100% comfortable daygaming alone, hitting on girls alone in the city wherever I am. But social-circle hookups? Never made that happen yet.
I did slow-dance with one nice brunette and got her number - no point trying to pull her home with 0 sex drive and major tiredness.
Do I need to build some connection&trust&comfort for weeks and months with social circle girls first and then BOOM - make it happen? Chris says you need to become the Alpha in any given social group and then you can lay the hotties. Well, that's gonna take time, like months and months.
I suppose the number #1 guy in this social circle is half a foot shorter than me but he's pretty dominant, loud, muscular and has got the looks+style+social freedom down pretty well. I didn't see him talking to all the girls at the party though like I did, just getting drunk and talking to the same people all night long.
UPDATES: Haven't managed to get my first social circle lay yet.
I've managed to make a couple of "fair weather" guy friends there but since I can't truly relate to anyone there and they can't truly relate to me, I'm gonna be a pretty lone wolf when I go to their little parties and stuff.... like I did tonight.
I did the usual social circle thing and introduced myself to most of the 20+ people at the party at the start of the night, flirted with some girls, put me arm around their shoulder, nothing crazy like lifting them in the air even.
But my biggest problem is that on those days where I lack a friendly/happy vibe and dont naturally feel like smiling, I'm done - 90% social fail by being a domineering asshole. I more or less offended a few guys and girls with my behavior or they were put off. No shouting but just that "ok, we're done, get away from me" -look.
I think this is teaching me to recognize those days when I shouldn't go out to parties cos I literally can't match their vibe - I'm just all dominant, aggressive pulling, touching girls, talking to them dominantly and challenging them with edgy humor like insults about their county's product like insulting BMW to Germans, but then I turn it into flirting.
I use ANYTHING to get away from the boring fucking convo of lame normal people and when I do.... they take offense sometimes for no good reason cos their sense of humor is WACK. I'd rather be alone than in the company of lames, though. I need to find a balance, I need to find my own people (in real life too).
Almost 100% percent it has been: I am happy and doing pretty good in daygame. I am somehow weird, scary, threatening in nightgame. This is why I hardly do nightgame.
3 sober girls I talked to at the bus stop at 10pm told me when I asked one of them why she's physically leaning back: "Im scared that you might stab me" and when I said "I dont mean to come across scary like that. what is it about me that makes me scary" they said 1."you're too social for a Finn" 2."the way you speak, the way you sound.... it's aggressive." I told them I'm from northern Finland and this is how I speak now that I live in the capital city.
OH YEAH?? IM TOO SOCIAL FOR A FINN? BITCH ARE U RETARDED? I THOUGHT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO ACT DOMINANT, LIKE A MAN!
A very friendly demeanor with upwards intonation and plenty of smiling to me feels so fucking beta or appeasing during nighttime. But it's necessary for my success with women - they can't handle the Force of strong, hard Masculinity expressed in front of their face if it's not watered down with soft friendliness.
I bet Scotty knows a lot about this subject. I would like to hear his thoughts on the subject of "what is the right amount of intimidation / masculinity / dominance and what is too much for daytime and night time, respectively" next interview you guys do
EDIT: I just made a 3-minute vibe video and it's uploaded on Vimeo now. I will let any moderator take a look at it an offer their candid thoughts and tell me if there's something wrong with me. Let me know if you want to see it
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