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Why are you so hard on yourself? You've already gotten 2 girls back to your place in the last week.
I haven't gotten any dates yet with my current screening spree.
The only reason for immediate sex on the first date is that you have so many other girls in the pipeline that you don't have time for 2nd or 3rd date. It's not because it's such a horrible thing that girls don't want to have sex on the first date. As long as I enjoy a girl's company, and there is progress physically, I'll keep seeing her until I fuck her.
I know it ain't easy. If I don't get a date soon, I'll probably feel like shit too
ssk08: thanks, I think I used that once today: "so what do you want to know about me?". I think you're right, I do lose momentum because when I'm absorbed in guitar playing - I'm not communicating anythign with her, I'm not TOUCHING her, my whole focus is on the guitar. I'll stop using it cos it's not working.
BTW I forgot to eat salt that day (July 9th, the date with the redhead I wrote about in my last post) and I was sweating a lot - that caused that HORRIBLE state crash and lethargy later that ruined my last date. She ain't responding anymore, she's gone now. Bye bye redhead.
silver: yeah, progress comes in strange ways. it's so hard to measure because one day I'm up, one day I'm down. but I'm not bipolar. thanks for the encouragement
smoothoperator: im too hard on myself cos I usually have poor self-esteem, quite a low mood (not quite enough to call depression), not much entitlement or success to speak about in any areas of life and I'm just too negatively-focused and expect bad things rather than good things to happen in life. It's a hard pattern to break. My psychologist noticed the same things about me + that I have slight aggression problems/issues.
I hope to make little success steps and learn to love myself along the road. It can take years, but I have years and years
I'm considering whether or not to go for sex on the 1st date, believe me I've considered it a lot. But so far, no girl I haven't fucked on the first date came back for a 2nd. I don't actually ENJOY the company of half the girls I've had dates with, but I would FUCK them.
July 13th Sat
So, today I took the time to hit on girls for 3h downtown. Sat night between 6PM-11.30PM (went home in the middle). 4 numbers, all replied back very fast = dates coming.
Most were not DTF, I'm like air to them. I stall in conversation with girls who have no interest in me and don't give anything back socially. I self-eject these "failed" sets. Many wanted to walk away fast to go to a party/bar/meet friends. That's when I would grab their hand tight like Scotty and not let go. Sometimes this works A few receptive ones were unfortunately in relationships/with BF/from another city.
#-close1: cheery young blonde. Got the biggest/reactions and laughs from her. Very nice talking to her, thank you Chris for the line about causing drama in the club - she loved it
#-close2: two russian girls on the street - I got the number from the one with a big delicious rack and who seemed more into me
#-close3: very skinny big-eyed blonde from my apartment building. stopped her just outside and got her number fast and sexy. I was talking all slow and smooth, felt very centered.
#-close4: tall, maybe 5'9, thick&curvy, a bit plump butterface brunette with giant boobies outside a bar, out to meet a guy (her friend admitted), very positive. she invited me to bar with her 3 girlfriends but that wasn't my plan for the night, and I'm not interested in drunking/bars/drunken people so I walked the streets hitting on more girls and then went home.
Bad news is my internal state is not on level with nightgame happy party people, and I don't share their lifestyle so I will concentrate more on chill daygame cos my #-close % is probably better and I enjoy myself more cos I don't have to deal with bitchy groups of girls who in the caveman days I would immediately slap around for giving me the slightest negative attitude.
Good news is that I found out the most common compliment I get when I ask for them in my opener is about my eyes. Also: the more I do this, the braver I get and the easier it is to react quickly and OPEN when a hotties walk into my field of vision. Situations that cause anxiety and EXCEEDINGLY rare now. It's nothing like it used to be in 2012
Hunter. Lone pussy hunter in the night. Horny pussy predator. Not very dangerous or effective yet but we'll see when he gets more experience, when he grows bigger. GRRR!!
How many approaches per day? Usually, ZERO cos I'm home most of the day, go to a grocery store right next to me and for the past 2 months, worked out in the gym at my building. Most of my friends (actually I don't have many) are from my building so I don't even need to leave here to meet them. Is there a problem with that?
Some guys just use home for sleep - I'm home all the time planning my life, figuring out what I should study or should I build a business or wtf haha
So anways, to make approaches, I must specifically go out to do them 'en masse' like today, or just do them while taking care of some other things downtown like shopping or something. But there's not as many targets as I hope - many girls walk around with a guy/boyfriend and I know I don't have enough Adonis effect to convince any of them to cheat on their BF.
I'm getting used to dry spells, I'm more mature and Zen now than ever before, I don't even fap or watch porn anymore, I don't let my animal urges control me, I'm gonna "reboot" yay
Re: It's my life, and it's now or never. I ain't gonna live forever.
16 Jul 2013 16:07 #46090
Bro get out of the house, make friends and get a life. You shouldn't be in the house all day. I do it every once in a while just to relax. Do some things to get you around other people. Try meet-ups or singles groups. I would suggest joining a gym not in your building (if you can afford it), doing to a grocery store across town, going to the park and library. Just increase the number of people you can meet.
Hey, I got pretty tanned, that's one thing I did outside.... well ok I did it on the roof of my building cos it's so close, DAMN!
I know I should be around people more. Thanks for the suggestions, Jaie. I have some facebook groups that invite people from the group to eat together, or sometimes even dance together. I will organize something, and I can always bike to a park or somewhere and enjoy the weather cos I like biking
Hot date today with feminine young petite blonde - a little bit of messing around.
Alright, feel like I achieved something! (maybe) 19-20yo thin blonde from a few days ago wanted to meet me tonight, 1st date. I met her outside my house, we walked for a bit and I showed her the neighborhood. I stopped in a few sightseeing spots to hold her hand and put my arm around her delicate shoulders.
By far THE greatest thing about these girls who clearly LIKE YOU / are DTF is that you seemingly feel like the most charismatic guy ever when she smiles/laughs at everything you say and contributes to the conversation, is nice to you and feels confortable with you touching and holding her. That's the best feeling because then I feel good and at ease being with her. I don't have to "try" to be anything other than myself and talk about think that I find interesting. After many failures with chicks and so much work put into cold approach, I realize that I do all this work for the moments to be with receptive girls like her.
After this little walking tour I brought her to my apartment (no questions or objections from her, not that I expect or entertain any of those). I offered her a drink which she declined. she had a smoke on the balcony as I chatted with her. The flow of conversation between us was totally natural and enjoyable unlike the past couple of girls you read in my previous posts. We got along well, we could have fun talking about anything.
After smoking, we went in my room for the first time, I put on some music and we both sat on the bed. I started massaging her shoulders, she loved it. Then I slow-danced with her and started kissed her after caressing her lower back, made out quite many minutes, groped hips & butt. I put her on the bed and started rubbing her pussy outside her pants pretty hard, then after like 1min tried to pull her pants down. She objected, saying meekly "I didn't come here to fuck you, you know?". I told her "I know, I just can't help it I'm so turned on by you", then continued kissing/turning her on after a while. I pulled her tits out for licking (she objected), rubbed the pussy again but she kept objecting, so I let her go for a smoke.
I think I tried escalating one more time, rubbing her pussy as she was lying on my bed on her stomach and I was giving her leg massage - we just held on a normal conversation as I was rubbing her legs and her little pussy hard and she showed no signs of getting turned on exept I could feeling a little wetness through her pants, kinda strange...
We talked some more, still fun vibe, I mentioned the things we could do next time we see each other like go tanning. Then I carried her the the door whispered something in her ear and opened the door for her and said "bye" and she left. We had fun together but I sent her out abruptly without hugs&proper goodbyes so I hope I didn't make a mistake there, cos I initially meant that as a joke like I just opened the door for her and said "bye".
I did sent her a txt saying I had fun together with her and hinted at the next time we meet but so far she hasn't replied, it's only been 2h. Hmm...
UPDATE: I just read BoyToy's escalation guide and OOPS... I think I just sent home a girl who would've absolutely fucked me TONIGHT if I had tried putting my hands INSIDE her pants a few more times. Lesson learned... I will keep going UNTIL she gets laid or gets lost. "Never think about what the woman won't let you do." -jaie euless
Thank you, my brother from another mother! Nothing motivates me harder than you and all GLL guys who take real action and see success and my 1-month no-fap success!
Funny thing is I don't blame myself anymore for "failing" or whatever - I KNOW every experience teaches me something and by learning self-acceptence I can keep feeling good about myself, looking forward to the next girl/opportunity with happiness and engaging them with a dynamic, charismatic personality intead of the depressed inexpressive sad sop I used to be.
WHAT HAPPENED ON TODAY'S 4-HOUR DATE
So I had a date with this HOT brunette russian... really feminine too, never a hint of mean bitch about her. let's just say when you see her walking in her high heels, guys were looking. When we went to play pool... oh man, were the guys checking out dat ASS, DAT HAIR and a fine rack too... ;D
But the best part about this was me: I was FINALLY able to see myself as the kind of edgy, scumbaggy, dangerous guy you see with hot chicks (tattoos and more muscle are the only thing missing when you look at me/my style). I am catching guys looking at me on the street and I know why they can't take their eyes off me. I'm catching more female eyes too although not the hot ones so far. Step by step my dream is changing into my reality.
The date consisted of us going to places near my house. Then I took her to my place and offered a drink like always. After some talking I go for the kiss - she evades. I keep talking and escalating over maybe an hour till she got horny and comfortable enough with me to start turning her pussy on. Shoulder/leg MASSAGE is always a golden idea - I had her on her stomach and proceeded from claves up to rubbing the pussy hard through pants. I also at some point got her to verbally admit that I'm: masculine, she loves my deep voice, she thinks I'm handsome and she has fun with me. I love to do this, I think it's good to get her to admit that when she actually feels that way! I'm also getting good at sexual talk, telling her to push out her tongue when we're kissing because it's so "wet and sexy" etc.
After an hour or two of her stopping my escalations with "Horny... please, I dont do this on the first date.... I'm different than other girls who sleep on the first date... No, I need to feel that I'm special to you.. blabla." and me always stopping and taking a step back and saying things like "oh, it's not a big deal, let's just listen to music" or something, I had finally turned her on SO MUCH that her hips started gyrating hard, her breathing got fast, she seemed as though posessed and unable to process anything logically, so I quickly grabbed her body in my arms, threw her on the bed and pushed my hand inside her pants to rub her pussy, but she was moving so violently that she managed to still stop me, get off of the bed and go stand 1m away from me where she proceeded to catch her breath, recover from what looks like an altered state of female horniness and extended her hand to signal to me don't come close.
After I put her in that sex trance I think 2 times, she kept saying even more of that stuff they say like: "I don't know you enough and I can't do this so early. I don't mean knowing things about you like what your hobbies are and where you go.. but to really KNOW you and feel connected to you. And I promised to meet my friends at a bar at X-time so I have to go now". I'm pretty sure we left on good terms, at least I verbally put that in her head by repeating it. She gave me a BIG, hard hug and smiled as she left.
If she didn't feel used and offended by my repeated hard and bold escalations (that's the risk u take, right?), she's coming back and I'm finishing the job no matter how many dates it takes. Shes hot and fun enough for me to put in some time.
So, I hope you liked reading that. Based on this, what advice can you more experienced guys give me so I can cross the finish line to pussy paradise?
*Lived a pretty sedentary life until his late 20's
*Loves to get his feet wet
*has his fingers in many pies
*never puts all his eggs in one basket
*has a tendency to throw up when rubbed up the wrong way (or right way)
*prefers vaginas, though he tried an ass (girls only) once and found it quite enjoyable
Actually, I'll give this girl 3 dates and if she doesn't yield to my masculine force, it's probably not gonna happen, it's gonna be a waste of time cos I have other girls on my phone, other dates comign up etc.
Now that I think about it ssk: this has got to be a case of "boyfriend hunter". She wants to feel a "special connection" before sex. How many of the approaches leads to my apartment? I'm not sure I fully understand, but I follow BoyToy's model: I almost ALWAYS take them to my apartment on the first date so sex is possible. and calculating percentages is nerdy, but let's just say a good percentage, a higher percentage than before and a percentage that makes me optimistic
Omar: It happened naturally as my sex drive temporarily lowered during my GLL fat loss dieting, and then I decided to just keep going and not fap... 31 days so far yeaahh! 3 days ago I also started taking 100mg/day l-theanine (suntheanine) which is like a "safe, non-tolerance forming, milder version of phenibut" that some people tout as a cure for mild social anxiety. my mood and happiness has been better than usual!
Wow Horny, you are kicking ass!!! Or getting ass lol.
Let me give you one gamey tip that doesn't hurt to try.
It's actually not uncommon for girls to say that she doesn't feel connect to you or say "but, I don't know anything about you" while resisting sex. Think of something intimate from your childhood or whatever. Just tell her a personal story. I told a girl how I was a nerd in high school. She was like, "I was a nerd too!" then she was all over me.
Guys like us, we still attract a lot of maybe girls, and they need more justification for have sex with you.
Smooth: yes of course, they say that and I don't take it at face value since I've heard it so many times. I just escalate but when I do, they RESIST or tell me to stop or tell me "I'm leaving"! I can tell her stories and share lots of things about my life but when it comes to SEX --- I haven't encountered a single fucking girl that gives it up easy and fast like all of BoyToy's chicks.
Maybe they need more justification but I'm so behind in my (sex) life that I don't have time to be a nice guy and go on talking dates, I want straight-to-bed dates and to weed out non-DTF girls more effectively. If NOTHING else works, then I'll start doing 2-3 dates.
HELP! I just realized that during the summer I'VE HAD 7 GIRLS ISOLATED ALONE WITH ME IN A ROOM - AND NOT 1 PUT OUT, NOT 1 GAVE ME PUSSY! WHAT THE FUCK IS MY STICKING POINT!?? I would PM Chris or BoyToy but I CAN'T because I have horrible technical difficulties: my browser won't load GLL.com, I have to write on this forum from various unreliable free proxy websites which won't allow modifying posts or sending PM or copy+pasteing the URL of this page to email somebody, because it always encrypts the URL.
I'm on Safari 5.0.6 and OS X v10.5 "leopard" which are outdated so is there any way to get my shit working without buying the new OS X?
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