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I'll try and keep this one short and sweet, hit up a girl on instagram DM, cute, likes to train, huge rack. I follow her, she follows me back, i like two of her pics, she likes one of mine back.
Turns out she lives a few roads down from me, crazy local and has been daygame approached by my friend before who approaches like crazy, she turned him down and told him she's not single. She then said he lost interest in her after that.
I hit it off with her for a few messages keeping it light and a little flirty talking about training etc, gets to the point where i proposition her to meet up as i'm interested and she's cool. She then tells me has a boyfriend. I then tell her i'm still down for a friendly walk, she agrees, gives me her number and we set up a lunch time meet. Before this point i've told her she's hot etc, so my interest is clear. But she doesn't shoot me down on it, just doesn't acknowledge which is fine and understandable.
We do a fair bit of rapport building before we meet, talking about her previous experiences with men and her weight loss journey. She used to be super fat when she got with her man, then lost loads of weight to become as hot as she is now.
I met her just now - meet went super well, we vibed great. I pick her up several times (over puddles and on my hello and goodbye hugs) and she responds super well to it. It was 11 degrees out here today along the beach and windy, but her coat was open and she was showing boat loads of cleavage in some gym gear, so hardly modest.
She's told me she has a lot of guy friends, most i assume are orbiters who want to fuck in reality. She also tells me she prefers taller men - i'm tall, the same height as her man, but much more built (he is thin as a rake). My friend was apparently too short for her and too old he's mid 30s. She said her preferred max age is 23 (she knows i'm 26). Funnily enough she told him that she's meeting me, and my friend said to tell me that he's first in line, she laughed and said, he's porbably 10th in line ha.
Told her i enjoyed the walk etc, she said she enjoyed it too, then after says "new friends are always welcome, just don't get the wrong idea "
So i'm basically trying to figure out my game plan for increasing my likelihood of smashing, she's a cool girl with a banging bod, and lives super close. And i know she is lonely in the lockdown with her BF working at hte hospital all day while she works at home. Ofc she is a human being and has her own free will and it may be that she genuinely has not possible intention of letting me get physical - i also am talking and meeting with other women, so i'm not short on options, i'm good. Just curious what other people have done in situations like this where a girl has a man.
Any thoughts on this would be helpful, cheers!
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I am in no way the morality police, but it is infinitely easier to sleep with girls who don't have any blocks on their sexual availability. I would spend my time on the others personally. Just my 2 cents.
My 2 cents is that you are wasting your time if you are trying to smash this girl. She has a boyfriend, and your odds are so much lower because of that. And even if you do manage to pull this off, you likely will have been able to smash four other hot single girls in the time it takes you to do this... I would say befriend the girl, and invite her to hang with you and your friends. A hot girl you are friends with is always a huge asset. Do not make moves on her, and eventually if she breaks up with her boyfriend, make a move if she shows interest.
TBH, the red pill idea that guys should either fuck or not being friends with a girl seems like a huge sign of lack of social skills to me (not saying this is you, but I see this a lot on this forum). There's nothing wrong with being friends with hot girls and not fucking them as long as you are a dope guy. Eventually she will introduce you to a hot friend of hers who is interested in you. For every hot girl you befriend and don't fuck, you will be able to fuck four+ different hot girls in the future. Find a balance between befriending hot girls and fucking them
I have a friend who is literally a boyfriend destroyer. I asked one time his trick. He told me that he finds out which needs she misses on her boyfriend and then he fills this needs systematically/step for step during an interaction. Most time during a night game interaction. In the otherside he is really good with handling objections. One of the best club gamer that I saw. He got one time almost ban from a club because he pulled too much girls...
I agree with just moving on. If you get lucky and it happens someday then great, but I'd put my effort into better propositions. Personally, the way she was described, I'm already turned-off and uninterested. Sounds like a tease who simply loves male attention. I'd ghost her, or friendzone her at best. I wouldn't tell her why, simply "I've been busy".
Your best chance would be to invite her for some drinks. A few drinks might loosen her up, and some women want the "excuse" to justify their cheating.
Yea...when she said she had a lot of guy friends she was probably fucking most of them behind her boyfriends back. I have a girlfriend now, and I made damn sure she cut off all of her guy friends when we started dating.
You should have just told her you wanted to be friends, set it up logistically, and just try to catch her in the window Chris talks about.
I personally think to highly of myself to go after a girl with a boyfriend. It's just a bad look and it's bad karma. Now if you didn't know about it, it's another story, but if she straight up told you like that it sounds like she wanted you to share the blame if you did anything, which is a big no-go IMO.
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