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^he's posted photos of himself before (it does help when everything is in a log)
There was decent advice in the link you posted RJSlim.
Conversations consist of talking about their life, music, etc. No touching.
That's on you. It's pretty rare that a girl will do all the work for you. By the way, I prefer to sit at the bar (ideally at the corner) so touching's easier. If you're across the table from her, feels more like an interview. And I can never figure out what to do besides footsie or hand touching (gayyyy)
And so on and so forth. But you shouldn't read too much. My advice is also: Go on tons of dates and gain as much experience as possible. Getting ghosted, flaked on etc. can absolutely never be avoided.
If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room.
"(I don't have the time to search the forum for your pics etc.)."
@RJSlim: Everyone's gonna give you different advice. Even my advice is different. I'd post you the link to my Tinder Guide where I lay out literally every single step, but as Cilindric just said, reading is NOT what you need right now. Just taking action and failing more and making more mistakes and figuring it out is what you need to do. Go take action.
I feel so often it's just hit or miss on a first date. There's no way to know where things will go even with great screening beforehand. It often seems the outcome is already decided in the first 5 minutes. You meet one woman and it's so easy, instant convo, she's being receptive. You get that vibe and can go directly into flirty banter, tease each other for an hour over drinks and she's ready to go home with you. The next girl will be a dry sour bitch from the moment you meet. She acts unattracted and refuses to warm up. After 20 minutes you're like "I got the check" and you get the fuck out.
That's why you keep first dates short and inexpensive. Since we can never be sure which woman is going to show up, the solution becomes: Date more women! Learn to be quicker at identifying the duds and cut them out ASAP. Don't waste your time and energy on dead ends.
all of my dates are cold approaches, usually at the grocery store. I don't do online.
My bad guys, I know I gave little info. This is more of a vent thread. Not trying to be a bitch just wanting to see if anyone else has this frustration. I already know what I need to do:
-Look better (Get more cut)
-Go on more dates/talk to more girls (number game)
-Be more aggressive (killer instinct and screening)
And the problem will fix itself.
and I need to be more efficient. Not going out at 9 am-3 pm on a weekday, instead getting my work done, training, then go out at like 4-7 and get 5-10 approaches in. On fridays and saturdays literally approach all day unless i got a date.
Basically just refined my game plan. Might start a new log as well.
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I didn't think the "Get Hung" guide would have girls eyeing my bulge. It did.
I didn't think that your exercise and diet advice would have girls checking me out. It did.
I DEFINITELY didn't think that your hair-loss prevention would fix my hairline. Not in a billion years. It mother fucking did. You saved me a crazy amount of time, a ton of money, unnecessary pain, and destroyed my #1 source of anxiety. DESTROYED IT.
Kratom is next!
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