This is an opinion website that offers information of a general nature and none of the opinions should be construed as advice. Nothing contained within the site is the advice, opinion or otherwise the view of any host, owner, server or other provider of services to Good Looking Loser. Nothing stated shall be construed to serve as a replacement for competent advice from professionals.
Affiliate Disclosure: At absolutely no expense to you, if you make a purchase, we may receive commissions from some links on this website. That is how our community supports itself. I don't recommend anything that I have not used personally or believe in. Thanks!
So basically I am opening a new chapter in my journey where I am going to be focusing completely on the triumvirate business project. I of course still want to get laid. This takes a lot of time however and in the interest of efficiency and opening up more time which is money, I want to try and outsource my online dating.
Does anyone here know any good websites or businesses who can do this that won’t break the bank? I found a couple but they are just way too expensive and I don’t know if they are trustworthy.
Essentially they would run my tinder, badoo, hinge etc and screen girls so I have the best chance of banging one or two new girls a month; the idea being to retain them as f buddies.
I offer it but not cheap - $150 USD a week. Could knock it down to $100/week because it's you.
I dunno how cheap you're going to find it (let me know if you do though, I'm genuinely interested in this stuff). It ends up being a fucktonne of work/effort, even with me being super efficient and screening hard and using my template. For the work involved, I make like 5 times more if I just do a 1hr Skype call.
I've only done it for 2 other guys so far. So I'll be interested to see if other people do it cheaper - maybe as a side hobby? I don't think it'd scale well due to how much time it takes up each week. Maybe they use cheap overseas labour?
Again, lemme know - I find this shit really interesting. There's probably a big potential market of "I'll manage your Tinder for you, for cheap" waiting to be tapped into. Whoever does it first will probably make a killing.
Wow it's a great idea but at first they would need to take care of their looks and killer instinct otherwise it would be like putting water in a drilled barrel.
You'll get paid for it but would loose on the long run as your clients won't get the results they are paying for and Will actively and publicly blame you for their lack of self responsibility and in this case, yours as well.
I was thinking I’d just put as my bio:
Looking to meet. Busy lifestyle
Most of my time spent training and trying to solve computer vision
Leave your number if you’re interested
But you might need to be pretty baller for that to work. You’re legitimately working 80 hours a week and can’t get around it though hey. I’d say Andy is offering you a killer deal there... Andy actually knows how to screen chicks properly too
Pmmed you Andy. I am very happy you reached out to me about this.
@Schifted. Yes, if you had a agency of some kind employing guys who knew exactly what they were doing and had got tons of bangs themselves already then it could work well I think. They would need to be able to actively help guys with their photos (or if none of the photos are good enough, then refuse to accept the job until the guy gets better photos) and have enough experience to know what works as well as fulfil what the guy is specifically looking for (whether hard screening etc).
What Andy might consider doing eventually is opening up an online outsourcing agency. Andy’s ’Tailored Tinder for Totty Ltd.’ or something lol
Once he has successfully scaled his coaching business or whatever else he is focusing on he could offer jobs to guys on this forum who are tinder kings for example who are looking to make a little side income. He could have a team of 5-10 guys he out-sources to and perhaps trains ‘on the job’ for a short while until they reach a sufficient standard.
For guys on the forum who are learning and running their golden eagle projects, this service could also be a kind of training tool assuming they have plateaued with their profiles and online dating endeavours. Andy might introduce different level memberships. Bronze: profile management; silver: profile management + constant feedback and WhatsApp message auditing. And Gold: both of those plus photo auditing and optimising.
I think with Andy’s website traffic he will never run out of guys eager to have their online dating taken over, especially when the reputation reaches a very high level. The only issue would be Andy would have too many guys applying for it and the team would be overwhelmed. Because of this, the team could be very picky with vetting in order to ensure the high standard of service. For example, maybe the applicant could upload their photos for the first time for free to Tailored Tinder Inc. and one of the team members could either reject and recommend he works more on his photos using the GLL forum. Or recommend the Gold membership to have his photos optimised if they are good enough such that optimisation would be enough,
Because of all this I cannot imagine you would be able to scale this very high simply due to the under-supply of skilled, legit profile managers, trained in house by Andy himself. If you did want to do that however, you could design a video course on how to teach guys who are online experts how to manage guys’ profiles? You could sell it for a very high price. You could hire a marketeer (like ahem TheBastard for example haha! (Some day)) to scale this product and this would enable you to increase your team size. Once a guy passes the video course exam, he could have an interview with Andy who might let him on his team on probation or something.
I just typed up some random notes I scribbled down on the company note pad throughout the day just in case you thought I had been thinking about this for days! For me it is a good way to test my entrepreneurial mindset as part of my training for the Triumvirate!
Edit: Another idea. Perhaps you could have 'Platinum mode' for rich executive CEOs where you not only take control of the online profiles but deal with literally everything up to the girl turning up at his door. Of course rich guys might prefer to rent actual hookers but I am sure there would be many who would go for this simply because it is not whoremongering. It could be the ultimate tailored package to whatever the guy wants including specialist stuff like BDSM etc.
I know you guys are half joking but that actually sounds like an amazing idea. Not just saying that , you are on to something for sure. If someone put the time into that they could make a shit tonne of money. Ive been reading books about starting your own business over the carona break and this is dynamite. I always thought of business as really confushing, but Chris broke it down really good in an old article. He said dont think too much. Just get started. All you need for a thing to work is a demand (tinder is one of the biggest things going in the world for single people), and to supply it at either a cheaper pirce than others, or make your product better. Honestly Andy or bastard you guys should do this. You have no brick and mortar overhead prices, no inventory. Wow you just blew my mind lol I gotta start tthinking of stuff like this
It won't be me that does it (at least not anytime soon). I have like 80 other projects to do first... I probably won't even finish them before I'm fucking 40. So you're welcome to take the idea and run with it - there's no reason you couldn't set this idea up YOURSELF (you, terry_crews).
If you're worried about "But I have no idea how the fuck to get laid like you do, Andy" - then offer me something like, "Andy, I'll pay you x amount of dollars if you give me a training system I can use to train other guys. Tell me exactly what to do and say, and I'll use your system to then build my own business of coaches. Maybe I'll hit you up every now and then if I need more consultation or if I'm unsure about something."
If you're worried about being fake/a fraud, then be honest - "I have a mentor, Andy, who's taught me everything I'm teaching you. Here's the proof he gets laid a tonne, the proof his stuff works [then link to my proof article on my website, or I'll write you a testimonial or something]"
You could do the same with Bastard - pay him x amount of dollars to write you a system (he gets laid a shitload and knows what he's doing too, and he's a fucking good teacher given his log history).
Point is, if you like this idea so much - there's absolutely no reason you can't build this yourself. You're basically saying "Hey Andy, you or Bastards should make a fucktonne of money!"
Why don't YOU make a fucktonne of money? I'm more than willing to help you, and Bastard may as well - if you gave him/I some amount of money that'd make it worth it for all of us. (I can't speak for him - you'd have to ask him).
Spend the next week brainstorming ideas about how you could make something like this happen. Because if you want it bad enough, if you actually want to make a tonne of money, you absolutely could.
I don't think I've talked to you much on here, my apologies for that.
My 2c: If you're going ALL IN in business you should come to terms with the fact that you will be smashing MUCH MUUUUCH less pussy, if ANY at all during the next 3-5 years.
Once you let go, you will succeed.
In 2018, I was action faking. I told myself I was "All In" on business. I wasn't.
I was still going out 2-3 days a week, approaching, doing online.
This shit sucks your time away.
When you're REALLY all in on business, you legitimately do not care if you get laid or not. You don't crave it.
That's why I suggest dudes get the "getting laid" phase over with as quickly as possible.
You already KNOW you can get laid.
The rest to me is entertainment.
Is taking a vacation fun? Sure. Is playing video games fun? Sure. Is getting laid fun? Sure.
But ultimately it's just pushing your business back further and further.
The only caviat being, if your business STEMS from you getting laid. If you're doing any self improvement, pickup, looks style whatever. Then sure, I'd say it's fine.
Otherwise, you really need to look yourself in the mirror and become OKAY with NOT getting laid more than a few times a year.
We have the skills to get laid. That's a known, proven fact. When pussy throws itself at you, sure, go for it when you need a break.
But I'm serious about this. Don't go into it with the mindset that you'll work 6 days a week and chase 1 day.
At least for me, I'm all or nothing. I can't balance 5 days a week and 2 days a week. It's more like 5 months and 2 weeks off. Or 1 month 1 day off. Stuff like that.
There are days where I wake up at 6AM and literally work until midnight that night. I don't do jack shit else. I order food to minimize time. I skip the gym. That's what it takes man.
I'd like to see the actual numbers of anyone who says they can "balance" this in the early stages, when you're starting your first businesses.
If you're past a few million, sure man. Balance it out. By all means fuck off a few days a week and don't try as hard.
But the first million is the hardest. The reason why? It takes HUGE amounts of sacrafice. When you're seeing everyone else out partying, getting laid, seeing all this shit. You're inside, grinding your ass off for the 14th hour that day. It's not FUN sometimes. It's hard as shit. But that's why 99.999% of people will never make it in business.
The best way I can put it is the same as the getting laid thing Chris said. Once you REALLY want to succeed, MORE than you care what these girls think, your friends, forum members, whatever. Once your #1 goal, FOR REAL, is to get laid, THAT is when you get laid.
Once your number one goal is to build a million dollar business, that's when the universe grants you with opportunities.
Most dudes are one foot in one foot out. They're fuckin around and aren't serious.
I know, because I was this dude up until last year.
And in the past year's time, I've made more money than the previous 5 years of my life combined.
I hope this long post helps you. If you wanna talk thru anything, please post a reply here. It's very very key to succeeding in this shit. I'm nowhere near successful but I've gotten thru the desert of desertion which most people never will. Lmk bro. Rooting for you.
PS: The real point I wanted to make with this post: Why TF would you waste money paying someone to swipe for you, buying boosts, etc when your biz is not profitable? That to me is a sign of not being ALL in. I can whole heartedly say, buying a boost is PISSING away your money when your #1 goal is build a business. Spend that money on a hired gun on UpWork instead to make your business succeed faster. Every waking second should be spent on it.
PPS: It all comes down to your goals. You need to be CRYSTAL FUCKING CLEAR on them.
If your goal is to make 4k/mo and fuck girls 5 days a week, that's EXTREMELY EASY. AND DOABLE and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
If your goal is to make 40k/mo, you can kiss fucking girls goodbye until you get there. Otherwise you're joking yourself because you're not clear on your goals.
My goals are closer to the 40 MILLION mark, so I got a LOT of work to do. Chasing girls, especially online, just simply doesn't align with my goals. It's not something I want anymore.
If it's something YOU want, by all means, there is NOTHING wrong with that. It's just different from my goal. So take what I say with a grain of salt. I'm the type who's down to go for years with ZERO ass in order to achieve my financial goals. Thankfully easy pussy still throws itself at me every 2 months or so, but it's irrelevant to me.
It is a rather complex topic so I am going to make a video update about this on Sunday.
But to keep it short, I am not planning to have no sex life for the next 5 years. I didn’t sacrifice 5 years and my late 20s to get laid only to not get laid for the next 5 years and lose my confidence and abilities by age 35. I concur the getting laid phase should be as short as possible; in my case for various reasons that was not possible however.
I am not going to subscribe to the whole 10+ hours a day every day blitzkrieg approach to business. I still want to live life reasonably normally with a meeting or 2 a week with a FWB to keep me sane. Moreover, I am not focusing at all on notches anymore. Its far more about quality than quantity now though I realise that seeing as I will only be using online dating to meet women from now on: the quality will be less than ideal. Over the next 5 years I should learn how to keep girls around as long as possible - improve my relationship management skills Blackdragon style.
Having almost no pussy isn’t living for me. Even during the golden eagle project I spent 6+ months a year with no pussy because I was working on a ship (that is actually why it took 5 years rather than just 2 or 3) which was bad enough. As we all know chasing pussy is a time sink. Cold approach was mostly worthless for results even if it made a man out of me. Going out never worked out either and had the added hammer blow to lifestyle and routine. Online takes a lot of time and mental energy which I won’t have when I am tackling the Triumvirate.
That is why I am going to try and outsource it. Me and KYIL are going to try it out and see how it goes. My goals are very moderate. In the end all I need is TWO girls. On rotation whom I see once a week or fortnight. If one falls out, then I outsource again until I fill the gap in the roster. Hopefully it will work. Because I no longer have the luxury of time to go out and do yet another photoshoot like I used to do a lot (especially late 19/early 20). If it does work and I am able to retain 2 girls for a year then I will only need to outsource this once a year.
I cannot stop meeting new girls regularly. True I know I can laid (with a lot of time and effort) but it really depends on where I am. There is a HUGE difference in difficulty between my home country, Eastern Europe and Latin America.
I get you about all or nothing. We are similar this way. The only difference my life is kind of cyclical because of my work. I would be chasing girls 7 days a week primarily with everything else being a ‘365 project.’ Then I would get ‘the call’ and find myself working night shift 12 hours a day 7 days a week for 4-6 weeks with literally not a second for anything else which utterly obliterated any kind of momentum I gained in any area of life.
That is why my primary focus is to build and run a business that is profitable enough such that I can finally lay this offshore time sink job to rest for good. Then the ultimate barrier to progress will be lifted: interrupted time.
6-8 hours a day every day + having to abandon everything to work on the ship for 1 month + = failure unless I am able to get 1st business off the ground.
6-8 hours a day every day while making income from my 1st business = GUARANTEED SUCCESS!!!!!
I am also not aiming for millions.
I am aiming for barely entering 6 figures (in USD, its a bit less in my local currency). And that is from the combined revenue of 3 different businesses. Aiming for 500k or millions would be like the equivalent of me saying back in 2015 that I was going to bang 150 girls in 5 years.
It turned out to be 50+ and mostly in countries where I have a significant advantage - where my ‘product’ its far more in demand.
If your goal is to make 4k/mo and fuck girls 5 days a week, that's EXTREMELY EASY. AND DOABLE and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Dude if I could do that I could quit my offshore work within a YEAR. Making 4k a month is actually more than my mid-project milestone scheduled for the end of 2022. 6.5k is ultimately what I am looking to make. And that is after 5 years.
Your goals are complete different from mine.
For me making £1.5k/month from a location independent online business and banging one new girl a month would be a MAJOR achievement! Something that would massively improve life quality. As for banging 5 new girls a week, I am not sure if you were exaggerating but that has never been possible for me except in Latin America when I was literally glued to my tinder almost the entire day.
The GoodLookingLoser.com forum offers visitors the ability to exchange information and thoughts. Nothing contained within GoodLookingLoser.com forum is the advice, opinion or otherwise the view of any host, owner, server or other provider of services to GoodLookingLoser.com or of Goodlookingloser.com itself. Nothing stated shall be construed to serve as a replacement for competent advice from professionals. Visitors are to make their own independent inquiries before acting on any information contained within the website forum.
I didn't think the "Get Hung" guide would have girls eyeing my bulge. It did.
I didn't think that your exercise and diet advice would have girls checking me out. It did.
I DEFINITELY didn't think that your hair-loss prevention would fix my hairline. Not in a billion years. It mother fucking did. You saved me a crazy amount of time, a ton of money, unnecessary pain, and destroyed my #1 source of anxiety. DESTROYED IT.
Kratom is next!
To anyone reading this, follow through, read this material, APPLY this material, and enjoy life.