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Yup. The formula is look good + talk to girls. If you neglect either side this is how it goes. Count: 105 (30 from cold approach since finding GLL)
2019 Goals: 1. Net business profit $5000/month ($3054 / $5000 so far) 2. Raise testosterone to 800+ (361 / 800 so far)
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The thing about night-game is that it can get disheartening. My issue is that I need to be semi-fucked up to even function in it and then on top of that you have to deal with the politics of it all.
On the other hand, I feel like it is a me thing too. I went out last night with no intentions of approaching, just wanted to get a little fucked up and explore the bars. I had women giving me IOIs and even had a couple literally stand next to me at a bar while there were many other spots to stand in. I semi-approached but cut it short, it was clear they wanted dick but I let past defeats get me down a bit. I think to do night-game right you need to be in that mood and have that energy. One of my friends watches Vitaly prank videos and funny shit to get him in a good mood to go out, a lot of it is controlling your emotions and how you feel. Night-game just offers the opportunity for fun and to have a good time though. I am starting to try my hand at daygame, just been a failure to launch since I am scared shitless of cold approaching. Get a couple girls give you the cold shoulder and it will be tough to truck through it all. It does seem like Online Dating is the best ROI these days. |
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Honestly it's way more fun taking a girl you're already shagging on a night out than it is to go out to find a girl
Find a cool girl in daytime or online and go have fun at a rave or club together Big goal: 100 lays - so far 15/100
2019 tally: 9 (2 cold approach) Stuff to do: Stick to cut and gym schedule Find a job/money Online dating
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My 2C:
Social Circle/House Party lays are by far the most fulfilling. Smashing a chick you know is better to me than a random, online or offline. Online is the least fulfilling for me, and seems bizarre, but there's no arguing it's by far the most efficient. This year I've only gotten 6 lays, but all but 1 have been from approaching, and it feels much better to me. Sadly I hardly have social circles anymore since moving. That's a big goal of mine for 2020, start hanging out again and going to house parties, because it's the most enjoyable for me. At the end of the day, not all lays are equal in terms of fulfillment, so do whatever makes you feel the best. If it's Tinder because of time management, by all means, double down. If it's going to the mall and cold approaching hotties then do that. If it's only social circle you're going to need a large circle that "rotates." To answer the question tho, I would say I'm pretty spread out, daygame, night game, social circle and online. Social circle probably being the biggest, followed by online, night game, then day game. 24 Years Old
Goals: Move to nice place by beach (in the action) Ski 30 days 2019/2020 season Save 50k in bank Branch out business for more revenue streams Get hella tatted
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I think I’m a little unusual. I spent all my time trying to get laid (or doing related activities) over the past year when not at work.
11 from online. When in L.A okc and hinge was the best. Now that I’m in S.F Bumble by far is the clear winner. Most of these have been like 5-7s. 3 were DURING the time I was doing the AA program. 9 from bars. I would go to really ratchet and crowded rows of bars where people go to meet people. When in LA that was downtown Fullerton, Huntington Beach, and downtown Santa Monica. I’m SF the marina district. In the marina, was never the same night.(no explanation why) I would take a Bunch of numbers and some would meet up later. They were the hottest and none smashed after date 1. I went HARD here after I did the AA program and lost a bunch of weight. The girls I met here were by far the most attractive. 2 from cold during the day. BY FAR the most rewarding. 1 social circle. 0 from night clubs or raves.
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The problem with social circle is that I don't think it is that feasible after you graduate university. I feel like I missed the boat big time but college provided some damn good opportunities for social circle lays, I was just awkward and my university was full of rich kids who were very image conscious, moreso than other schools out there. Once you get out of that college setting, I think social circle becomes a pipedream for most of us.
Now I do have friends who do social circle game but they work in nightlife where hedonism and sex are the language. In most other industries, the don't shit where you eat rule applies. I'd ideally would have loved to go the social circle route and agree that it is by far the most fulfilling, the issue is that it just isn't realistic. This is why daygame, nightgame, and online game are pretty much the go tos. |
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"I don't think it is that feasible after you graduate university."
Do you have proof of this? Have you tried? Or are you just waxing lyrical from your keyboard at home, with no skin in the game? Andy
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Social circle is definitely possible when you graduate University.
But living in a dope city with upwardly mobile people is a necessity, ie, TO, Montreal, Miami, Vegas, LA, etc, etc. However, I can’t say I can confirm this with personal experience. It just seems like common sense to me. It reminds me of people who said in my youth that college/high school was the end of your sex life, which it is, for many people. But they choose that lifestyle. Additionally, it’s kinda like when people say you get older and you become "too old" for young women, which is even funnier to me. I plan on dating 18-25 year-olds until Im 40. Im turning 28 next year and thus far, my age hasn’t done anything to affect my results. You just have to get around similarly ambitious people who aren’t satisfied with the regular beaten path. If you’re on this forum, you’re at least aware of the possibilities which is a start. Many people don’t even know that it’s possible to live such a great life.
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You definitely don’t need to be in college to do the social circle thing. I’ve been in plenty post college. Most were filled with mid 20s professional 20 somethings.
The real question, why would you want to? At least in my experience, most guys in social circles are annoying and competitive as helll. When it comes to getting laid, they get in your way more than they help. Unless your really tight with the dudes your hanging out with, it’s an annoying hinderance. The online/cold approach/bar thing is a lot more pleasant, convenient, and efficient than maneuvering a social circle. (assuming you lack anxiety).
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I have tried in the past through sports teams/intramural and school alumni meetups but it just doesn't seem to happen, in all fairness I haven't been hot before in my life so maybe that changes things. Even for my friends who were socially well-connected in college and the hit during those days, it isn't the thing for them either unless they LTR or get married. Outside of a Dan Bilzerian type of story and my friends sin nightlife, I've just never really seen it done. I don't know of any IRL or even rare breed examples here in the US but it might be different in other countries.
What it seems like is people just stick to their old college cliques even after school and if not that then they just kind of go for an LTR or are more hermit than you may think. I'd love to hear a success story for sure since that would ideally be my end goal but I just have not seen it done outside of Dan Bilzerian or people in nightlife. |
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I used to go to a lot of raves a year or 2 back. I had roomates that’s we’re into it and I kind of fell into it.
We would throw parties and go to events. Social circle was like 40-50 people. People would invite their mutual friends and stuff like that. It’s lame and over-rated. Don’t worry about it. Just try to get laid. |
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It is really a matter of if you have not had it then you will want it but if you have had it you see it as overrated. Social circle or having that community would be huge for me, I mean that is kinda why I joined this forum. I know it can definitely erode into getting laid and getting that lay count up but I would be more satisfied with fucking 5 or 6 hot girls a year but having a social life with friends just getting an odd hot girls here and there as an extension of that. That being said, I think getting hot girls is more realistic in general than having a cool social life. Women will always want sex, people on the other hand will usually move on to family life and grown up shit as opposed to socializing. |
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