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Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year?

TOPIC: Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year?

Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year? 13 Oct 2019 17:48 #322464

I think I’m a little unusual. I spent all my time trying to get laid (or doing related activities) over the past year when not at work.

11 from online. When in L.A okc and hinge was the best. Now that I’m in S.F Bumble by far is the clear winner. Most of these have been like 5-7s. 3 were DURING the time I was doing the AA program.

9 from bars. I would go to really ratchet and crowded rows of bars where people go to meet people. When in LA that was downtown Fullerton, Huntington Beach, and downtown Santa Monica. I’m SF the marina district. In the marina, was never the same night.(no explanation why) I would take a Bunch of numbers and some would meet up later. They were the hottest and none smashed after date 1. I went HARD here after I did the AA program and lost a bunch of weight. The girls I met here were by far the most attractive.

2 from cold during the day. BY FAR the most rewarding.

1 social circle.

0 from night clubs or raves.
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Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year? 13 Oct 2019 19:37 #322469

The problem with social circle is that I don't think it is that feasible after you graduate university. I feel like I missed the boat big time but college provided some damn good opportunities for social circle lays, I was just awkward and my university was full of rich kids who were very image conscious, moreso than other schools out there. Once you get out of that college setting, I think social circle becomes a pipedream for most of us.

Now I do have friends who do social circle game but they work in nightlife where hedonism and sex are the language. In most other industries, the don't shit where you eat rule applies. I'd ideally would have loved to go the social circle route and agree that it is by far the most fulfilling, the issue is that it just isn't realistic.

This is why daygame, nightgame, and online game are pretty much the go tos.
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Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year? 13 Oct 2019 20:26 #322471

"I don't think it is that feasible after you graduate university."

Do you have proof of this? Have you tried? Or are you just waxing lyrical from your keyboard at home, with no skin in the game?
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Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year? 14 Oct 2019 00:21 #322478

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Social circle is definitely possible when you graduate University.

But living in a dope city with upwardly mobile people is a necessity, ie, TO, Montreal, Miami, Vegas, LA, etc, etc.

However, I can’t say I can confirm this with personal experience. It just seems like common sense to me.

It reminds me of people who said in my youth that college/high school was the end of your sex life, which it is, for many people. But they choose that lifestyle.

Additionally, it’s kinda like when people say you get older and you become "too old" for young women, which is even funnier to me.

I plan on dating 18-25 year-olds until Im 40. Im turning 28 next year and thus far, my age hasn’t done anything to affect my results.

You just have to get around similarly ambitious people who aren’t satisfied with the regular beaten path.

If you’re on this forum, you’re at least aware of the possibilities which is a start.

Many people don’t even know that it’s possible to live such a great life.
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Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year? 14 Oct 2019 00:27 #322479

You definitely don’t need to be in college to do the social circle thing. I’ve been in plenty post college. Most were filled with mid 20s professional 20 somethings.

The real question, why would you want to? At least in my experience, most guys in social circles are annoying and competitive as helll. When it comes to getting laid, they get in your way more than they help.

Unless your really tight with the dudes your hanging out with, it’s an annoying hinderance. The online/cold approach/bar thing is a lot more pleasant, convenient, and efficient than maneuvering a social circle. (assuming you lack anxiety).
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Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year? 14 Oct 2019 00:32 #322480

I have tried in the past through sports teams/intramural and school alumni meetups but it just doesn't seem to happen, in all fairness I haven't been hot before in my life so maybe that changes things. Even for my friends who were socially well-connected in college and the hit during those days, it isn't the thing for them either unless they LTR or get married. Outside of a Dan Bilzerian type of story and my friends sin nightlife, I've just never really seen it done. I don't know of any IRL or even rare breed examples here in the US but it might be different in other countries.

What it seems like is people just stick to their old college cliques even after school and if not that then they just kind of go for an LTR or are more hermit than you may think. I'd love to hear a success story for sure since that would ideally be my end goal but I just have not seen it done outside of Dan Bilzerian or people in nightlife.
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Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year? 14 Oct 2019 00:44 #322482

I used to go to a lot of raves a year or 2 back. I had roomates that’s we’re into it and I kind of fell into it.

We would throw parties and go to events. Social circle was like 40-50 people. People would invite their mutual friends and stuff like that.

It’s lame and over-rated. Don’t worry about it. Just try to get laid.
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Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year? 14 Oct 2019 02:28 #322485

senorpeppers wrote: I used to go to a lot of raves a year or 2 back. I had roomates that’s we’re into it and I kind of fell into it.

We would throw parties and go to events. Social circle was like 40-50 people. People would invite their mutual friends and stuff like that.

It’s lame and over-rated. Don’t worry about it. Just try to get laid.


It is really a matter of if you have not had it then you will want it but if you have had it you see it as overrated. Social circle or having that community would be huge for me, I mean that is kinda why I joined this forum. I know it can definitely erode into getting laid and getting that lay count up but I would be more satisfied with fucking 5 or 6 hot girls a year but having a social life with friends just getting an odd hot girls here and there as an extension of that.

That being said, I think getting hot girls is more realistic in general than having a cool social life. Women will always want sex, people on the other hand will usually move on to family life and grown up shit as opposed to socializing.
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Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year? 14 Oct 2019 19:06 #322502

"I live in a city (NYC) that is a prime spot for nightlife, arguably the best in the US, and it seems like most bars here are straight sausagefests, couples out together, or girls out in a very large groups mixed with guys and girls."

You are going to the wrong places

Random bars in the LES (or anywhere) in NY where anyone can get in will be like that.

There are places in the city where you go in, the average girl will be an "8" or "9" and ratio will be more female than male (or ~equal). Will require table ($$) and/or connections

Also, non-weekend nights are probably better because weekends = people coming in from upstate NY/NJ/CT ("bridge and tunnel") who can fuck things up (e.g. places get stupid crowded, impossible "logistics" cuz it's a huge group and by chance the bitch you're probably talking to is designated driver, etc).

"girls out in a very large groups mixed with guys and girls."
After living abroad in various countries, this is definitely annoying about the US.

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Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year? 14 Oct 2019 19:18 #322503

Rousseau wrote: Height and looks mean shit if you don't have social skills. Sure you'll get laid sometimes, but not as much as you want and not with the girls you want.

Even with online dating. If girls show up to the date and the way you presented yourself online isn't who you really are, you're fucked.


This guy gets it. I never really got the whole obsession with Looks on this site. They matter ,Yes but Your social skills, humor, charisma and overall behavior are every bit as important your looks if not more. Some might look at this as some Pua Bullshit but Its True your "game" is actually very important. I find it amazing that the mods and many experienced guys on here has not acknowledged this fact and think that its as simple A looking good, playing a numbers game and talking to women. Yes fundamentally those are things you need to be doing but the "how" is the most important part of that equation . You cant simply just walk up to chicks and have boring interview style conversation and expect to have a decent success rate. Its probably the reason many guy on here struggle and have pretty low conversion ratios on this chicks they close. Cold approach is a pretty big numbers game no doubt but when your battling less than 2-3% and have to approach damn near 1000 women there is a problem with your interaction and how they are being run. Not just simply "she was not available" Or "You looks were not good enough". That seems to be the mentality on here. Incels seem to have similar mentality thinking she is either into you or not, and its a coping mechanism because they are in denial that attraction as long as your not hideous can be built and that behavior goes along way in converting women into liking you. It MUCH HARDER TO CHANGE YOUR PERSONALITY AND SOCIAL SKILLS than LOOKS fellas. IT takes alot of time and dedication to develop your Game and most guy cant accept this fact.
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Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year? 14 Oct 2019 20:35 #322507

"I find it amazing that the mods and many experienced guys on here has not acknowledged this fact and think that its as simple A looking good, playing a numbers game and talking to women."

You just said it yourself - "talking to women". Aka social skills. So you literally acknowledge we all say social skills are important.

Speaking of social skills, coming in to a new tribe and immediately calling out "mods and experienced guys" isn't the best way to make friends in that tribe. Though I'm going to assume you came here to argue, not to make any friends.

I'm also 99% sure you're the strange dude who keeps getting banned and making new accounts just to yell at us about game. I'm banning you. If you're not the same guy, send one of the mods a PM and well discuss.
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Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year? 14 Oct 2019 21:06 #322509

KillTheInnerLoser wrote: "I find it amazing that the mods and many experienced guys on here has not acknowledged this fact and think that its as simple A looking good, playing a numbers game and talking to women."

You just said it yourself - "talking to women". Aka social skills. So you literally acknowledge we all say social skills are important.

Speaking of social skills, coming in to a new tribe and immediately calling out "mods and experienced guys" isn't the best way to make friends in that tribe. Though I'm going to assume you came here to argue, not to make any friends.

I'm also 99% sure you're the strange dude who keeps getting banned and making new accounts just to yell at us about game. I'm banning you. If you're not the same guy, send one of the mods a PM and well discuss.


Judging from his name, he's most likely from a specific PUA community that I'm aware of. Probably a specific guy who actually works for this PUA company. I literally had "ban Evolution Aaron" on my wunderlist and I just got home.

Also can we acknowledge the humor in saying "all these guys who've demonstrated they know what they're talking about keep saying X is correct? Isn't that weird??"

It's almost like there's a reason we are all in consensus about the relative uselessness of working on your verbal game...
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