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I still want to get online and bars/clubs mastered. Ideally, I’d like to get to a point where I can sleep with 70-100 girls per year before Im 30. That’s my goal for women. Just all cuties too. No dry spell buster bitches.
I have always heard that in online dating you will either get girls at your looks level at best and below it most of the times, with nightgame you can luck out more since you can show other factor than just your looks, and daygame is the least judgmental of the three.
The reason I am committed to nigh game so much is because after a long week or a long day, I prefer to just go out to see the bars. NYC has a hell of a nightlife scene and I feel like I won't be in my 20s forever, FFS I am already 27 and in many way too old for it so I want to enjoy it before I turn 30. TBH I'd love to get a job in nightlife at some point before turning 30.
I digress though...
What I have found with nightlife these days is that it is so tough to tackle alone. I've been fortunate to have a cool wingman or a stable of guys willing to go out with me one off on a weekend. It is really about the drinking and good times along with the funny stories, I always had the curiosity for nightlife and the bar scene given that I grew up repressed and didn't even get to enjoy it much in college.
I find that a lot of women in NYC, at least the Lower East Side of Manhattan, come with a large group mixed with guys and girls or just a group of girls that are more there to party.
I guess I enjoy nightlife the most for the fun factor of it and after a hard week at work I can use a few drinks. About to go out solo tonight, that's the goal. The scene in NYC gets started really early tho.
Rousseau How old are you now and what would bars and clubs mastered be? 50 in a year? And just curious if a girl is walking home from a house party by the bars drunk you consider that a night game lay or house party lay? All cuties though that will be tough but im sure you got it. Who was the girl in your pic always wondered about that. Oh could just do what Hunk did and get shoe inserts or platform shoes.
Nightlife can be rough and people are usually their worst I swear. But if you don't mind the lack of sleep loads of fatties and shitty people its not so bad. Your odds are against you but its kinda an all or nothing which can be nice. Also the higher your standards the harder it is Calvin.
My ratio over the years is for every 1 cold approach lay I've had 2 online lays despite putting way more effort into cold approach. Probably 99% effort for cold approach. Honestly when I started I had no idea how hard it really is to meet girls through cold approach. Prior to GLL doing mostly nice guy game I would get laid through social circle and cold approach. I might only talk to a few girls in a year but would usually end up dating one. Prior to GLL when I was young in the late 90s early 2000s I would even get drunk and take girls home from bars sometimes. And I didn't know shit about 'pick up'. Turns out it's hard to do consistently and takes a ton of effort. Even after beating approach anxiety and putting in a ton of approaches it is very difficult to get laid that way. It just takes a ton of effort. I've had a ton of close calls and near misses but you would think that by just talking to a lot of girls it would be significantly easier to sleep with someone. And I get a lot of good reactions from girls, sometimes girls are just flattered to be hit on by me. I've even had girls thank me and tell me that it doesn't happen that often. Which is true, very few guys actually hit on girls, and yet it's still pretty damn difficult.
I have two total same day lays through cold approach and that is probably a 1 in a 1000 occurrence. I have one night time lay but it wasn't the same day. All of the others have been take a number and go on a date. But all my lays have come before the 3rd date. The one thing I can say is for all the effort I put in I actually wish I was a little LESS aggressive. I'm not saying being aggressive is bad... it's just I'm not scotty taking girls to my car to fuck them. My whole profile is different and I would've had significantly more lays if I would've been just a little less pushy and waited out the countdown to sex. Think Trevor game from Chris' Trevor article. That is actually the only regret I have... I've lost a ton of lays by trying to fuck girls on the first date. And these were girls that liked me... it's just weird girls move on and don't look past this.
The problem for me now with cold approach is just I'm not as enthusiastic as before and it's not as much fun. Early on I would go hit on 20 girls in the city center EFFORTLESSLY... it was just fun to meet up with other guys and talk to girls. It was cool and fun. Now it's just I really need to focus and improve other things in life. For that reason I'm going to focus more on online dating, and maybe doing occasional approaches like before GLL when the moment is right. Either way though it feels impossible for me to go back to the enthusiasm I had when I started out. And I just don't think I have the effort or the time.
The only problem is cold approach when it goes well feels so good. It is just a monumental victory and the rush of sleeping with a girl that way is better than online. Cold approach does force you to dig deep and find a ton of balls and confidence and to overcome self doubt, etc.
The thing about night-game is that it can get disheartening. My issue is that I need to be semi-fucked up to even function in it and then on top of that you have to deal with the politics of it all.
On the other hand, I feel like it is a me thing too. I went out last night with no intentions of approaching, just wanted to get a little fucked up and explore the bars. I had women giving me IOIs and even had a couple literally stand next to me at a bar while there were many other spots to stand in. I semi-approached but cut it short, it was clear they wanted dick but I let past defeats get me down a bit.
I think to do night-game right you need to be in that mood and have that energy. One of my friends watches Vitaly prank videos and funny shit to get him in a good mood to go out, a lot of it is controlling your emotions and how you feel.
Night-game just offers the opportunity for fun and to have a good time though. I am starting to try my hand at daygame, just been a failure to launch since I am scared shitless of cold approaching. Get a couple girls give you the cold shoulder and it will be tough to truck through it all.
It does seem like Online Dating is the best ROI these days.
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Poll: Where have most of your lays come from this year?
13 Oct 2019 06:23 #322454
Social Circle/House Party lays are by far the most fulfilling. Smashing a chick you know is better to me than a random, online or offline.
Online is the least fulfilling for me, and seems bizarre, but there's no arguing it's by far the most efficient.
This year I've only gotten 6 lays, but all but 1 have been from approaching, and it feels much better to me.
Sadly I hardly have social circles anymore since moving. That's a big goal of mine for 2020, start hanging out again and going to house parties, because it's the most enjoyable for me.
At the end of the day, not all lays are equal in terms of fulfillment, so do whatever makes you feel the best. If it's Tinder because of time management, by all means, double down. If it's going to the mall and cold approaching hotties then do that. If it's only social circle you're going to need a large circle that "rotates."
To answer the question tho, I would say I'm pretty spread out, daygame, night game, social circle and online. Social circle probably being the biggest, followed by online, night game, then day game.
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