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Having good looking friends. Help or Hindrance? 03 Dec 2017 08:23 #295221

I go out with my two roommates ever weekend.

They are both good looking guys. One 6'2 and buff, another 6' and has a great face. I am about 5'11 and muscled up with a good face. I cannot get over the common, and reacquiring attention these guys get over me. When I go out with them, girls will gladly talk to them and go home with them on occasion. When were with a group of girls I get overlooked, sometimes girls will straight up be ruthless and act as if i don't exist. However during a sober day at class or walking around in public a large amount of women will check me out, I have about 5 girls pinning over me in my finance class, but when it's bar night it's a different story. But when I go out with my friends they always get the attention. This stuff is obviously frustrating, especially since I am the "alpha" or leader of the group.

Do I stop going out with them?
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Having good looking friends. Help or Hindrance? 03 Dec 2017 09:18 #295227

Typically id say its a good thing to have a good looking crew but w what you describe. You should switch it up and try gaming solo
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Having good looking friends. Help or Hindrance? 03 Dec 2017 14:32 #295234

I used to go out with NSA and now with Eric93 from the forum. We're all good looking guys but when I would go out with NSA people just gravitated to him. He has a lot of charisma and people like that. That could be a factor as to why they get more attention at night. Charisma is pretty important all things equal. If you're all good looking and they're out doing you then I'd roll solo or focus on day game if your goal is to strictly get laid. That way you have less competition at night, it's already tough enough as it is.
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Having good looking friends. Help or Hindrance? 03 Dec 2017 15:52 #295241

Think you may be right.

Charisma may be it and possibly general sociability.

I am relatively very calm and reserved, where as my friends get very wasted so they can actually talk to girls, neither could ever think of doing it sober.

1) I did have a girl mention last night I had a very "Suave" aura about me. I didn't know what that meant but, she said I was very chill. Or she said that the vibe I put off. Is that considered a good thing?
2) Then Both girls were going on that "I had to be dating someone" and "your dating someone arn't you". Which I don't know what that means? Either I was acting uninterested in them, because I was not really interested tbh. What does that mean?

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Having good looking friends. Help or Hindrance? 03 Dec 2017 15:53 #295242

Yeah it's college so it makes it tough to hit the bar scene solo, I may start going off and finding my own girls at the bar.

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Having good looking friends. Help or Hindrance? 03 Dec 2017 16:55 #295247

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People always gravitate to the person who speaks the loudest and is the most charismatic.

As far as the girls saying to you, "you have to be dating someone," that essentially means that you're acting reserved and laid back, but the girls are finding it attractive.

It sounds like girls like you, you just have to accept that you may have to speak a bit louder when you're with your friends and be a little more outgoing.

If I were you, I would focus on one thing.

1) Talk Louder.

When you have something to say, say it with authority and conviction, like you mean it. It's almost ridiculous how much volume plays a role in how people perceive you.

If you talk too quietly, other men will talk over you and not even listen to what you have to say. Women won't listen to you either. It's nothing personal, no one is thinking "wow this guy is a bitch," you're just not commanding attention; plain and simple.
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Having good looking friends. Help or Hindrance? 03 Dec 2017 17:32 #295249

Rousseau wrote: People always gravitate to the person who speaks the loudest and is the most charismatic.

As far as the girls saying to you, "you have to be dating someone," that essentially means that you're acting reserved and laid back, but the girls are finding it attractive.

It sounds like girls like you, you just have to accept that you may have to speak a bit louder when you're with your friends and be a little more outgoing.

If I were you, I would focus on one thing.

1) Talk Louder.

When you have something to say, say it with authority and conviction, like you mean it. It's almost ridiculous how much volume plays a role in how people perceive you.

If you talk too quietly, other men will talk over you and not even listen to what you have to say. Women won't listen to you either. It's nothing personal, no one is thinking "wow this guy is a bitch," you're just not commanding attention; plain and simple.


Very good advice that I will use myself
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Having good looking friends. Help or Hindrance? 03 Dec 2017 17:38 #295250

Thanks, solid advice.

It makes a lot of sense now that you mention it. Both guys get loud and talkative, which is the opposite of how they act sober. I may need to be mixing with red bull, alcohol just sedates the hell out of me these days.

I am curious do you go for a hyper masculine look/deamor at night and in general? Sort like Sam use to recommend on here. I wonder if that will help.

I feel I may becoming across as too much of a charming/bf material. Rather than looking like like ill rock them in bed after 15minutes of talking.

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Having good looking friends. Help or Hindrance? 03 Dec 2017 18:51 #295255

I'd stop going out with your good looking mates. No matter how loud you talk or confident you are, women are hypergamous and will pick the best option.

Charisma can never beat nature.

Case in point, when I was teaching my model looking friend how to day game, we'd see a hot chick. She was obviously checking him out but he had AA, so I'd go approach her but get nowhere. I then tell him to go approach her. Even with his noob level of confidence and charisma, he'd get her number and a date even though she rejected me 5 minutes ago.

It's like when you see a group of chicks. Naturally, you'd want the hottest one.
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Having good looking friends. Help or Hindrance? 03 Dec 2017 19:34 #295258

Shanghai_Bobby wrote: I'd stop going out with your good looking mates. No matter how loud you talk or confident you are, women are hypergamous and will pick the best option.

Charisma can never beat nature.

Case in point, when I was teaching my model looking friend how to day game, we'd see a hot chick. She was obviously checking him out but he had AA, so I'd go approach her but get nowhere. I then tell him to go approach her. Even with his noob level of confidence and charisma, he'd get her number and a date even though she rejected me 5 minutes ago.

It's like when you see a group of chicks. Naturally, you'd want the hottest one.


Ruthless but true.

You have any advice on raw masculinity counter the effects of facial symmetry and height? I recall guy named Sam on here saying that dominance/masculinity trumps it, i just don't know if he is a quack or people take him serious.

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Having good looking friends. Help or Hindrance? 03 Dec 2017 21:55 #295262

Throw all that PUA bullshit out of your head.

Best way to get laid = look good and be rich

Second best way to get laid = look good, be white, be in an Asian country

Third best best way to get laid = look good

Failing all of that, be rich and use Sugar sites.

That's all that matters. Truly.
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Having good looking friends. Help or Hindrance? 03 Dec 2017 22:53 #295265

I find going out by yourself is a lot better than going in a group of guys, would be a sad night if they are way better looking for sure, mentally. Why don't you wear 2-inch lifts, they look normal as fuck and you'll be 6'1. Usually I just split up with the group now and go do my own thing. Only with them for the drive pumping some beats to get in the mindset or when I need the keys to the car.

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