TOPIC: so would you consider day game much more effective than night?

For quite a few years I did only day game, and when I did go out at night it was strictly to party and socialize - not with the intent of getting laid.

Daygame seen me spending concerted blocks of time in the afternoons out there chasing tail on a regular basis though. It really got in the way of my productivity - as an hour out would sometimes turn into 2 or 3 - and stuff like work tasks or the gym would get shuffed aside. So now I spend my days to work and build, and go out at night to have my fun.

That's my personal reason - but you definitely have to find your own.

Daytime offers:
- No substances involved
- No competition (however thanks to a lot of PUA slugs being more present in big cities I've encountered girls who have actually had these losers do "approaches" on them in the streets and put a bad taste in their mouth)
- Totally up to you to polarize the interaction in your favor
- Can catch hot / healthy girls who don't actually go out into the toxic nighttime environments
- Ability to talk at a normal level, present yourself as you are, create any reason why you are out that day

Night life offers:
- Substances involved
- Already subtly established that any girls you meet know you want to hook up with them and potentially they are out to hook up with someone too
- High concentration of hot young girls who are purposely looking their best / being their most flirtatious in one place at one time (I could spend hours on the street to find just ONE girl, at night I'll see usually 20 in 1 hour)
- Less ability to talk can be an advantage - small talk in her ear, getting physical right away leading them on the dancefloor, sexual tension dancing, getting a drink and taking them somewhere quiet. In the day, chances of you getting intensely physical with a girl and making out with here in the first 5 minutes are practically non existent. Yeah the greater rewards come later, but it's very fun to be able to have them now and non stop on good nights out..

Keys to having a good time in the night life are:
- HAVE A FRIEND. I've flown solo before, and have a good buddy who does almost all the time. it's great, but at the same time it's super nice to have a friend around who you can casually pick up conversations with, go see, bump into, bring into convos, LEAVE with (leaving alone sucks) - ARRIVE with (arriving with a friend makes for good talk in lineups, while waiting, etc.
A wingman is not essential by any means, but helps keep the social lubrication and thoughts/actions firing throughout the night.
Logistics wise most girls do not travel alone. While it's very possible to get a girl to come with you alone, it's MUCH harder when that girl is travelling with only 1 friend. Having a wing man with lower standards than your own is a god send. I have a few of these, guys who will take down the less desirable friend.
Where I'm from girls in pairs is very common, and having a wing who will wing the friend so you can get what you want is priceless.

- HAVE A FEW VENUES/BARS YOU REGULARLY VISIT
Find the places in town that suit you/suit your location. Try your hand at getting to know some of the door staff, and over time with some respect and genuine interest you may establish friendships with a door guy or two. Being respectful of the job they have to do, and not being a knucklehead in line / around their establishment go a long way. I have good relationships with some door guys at some of the best establishments in town now, and it's worth it's weight in gold to be able to get to a club/venue and cherry pick a hot girl or two out of the line and walk them in.

- LEARN THE TIMES OF NIGHT FOR YOUR AREA - HAVE A ROUGH GAME PLAN
Where I'm from, shit shuts down at 3AM. For this reason 11PM to 1AM is prime time. A lot of the best talent is ushered off to private parties or taken home by dudes on point to get fucked by this time. 1AM to 2AM is better get on it time, and 2AM to 3AM is who the fuck knows time.

Everywhere is different, but when you go out have a rough plan of where you are going to start, and where you will bounce to if that place sucks/doesn't get good by a certain time.

- LEARN THE BEST PLACES TO BE ON WHAT NIGHTS OF THE WEEK / EVENTS COMING UP
The nightlife where I am kinda sucks, however there are places that are GOOD on certain nights of the week. Knowing where to go on what night can make a huge difference, google up local night life sites, look up the good venues in towns websites and see what acts are coming. I've had gold mines in finding out when certain shows are coming in to town - namely the ones that are going to attract hot young chicks from the suburbs. It's worth it to buy a ticket or at the very least head down to an entry line up for some show you don't give a fuck about. It's potential to pick up some hot tail you may never have had an opportunity with otherwise. Get vigilant on finding out what's going on, and getting on top of it.

it's also a funny date trick if you've got a young chick you've met who is being a little distant/hard to get to meet up with. Find out a show she'll probably be into that is cheap ($20/$30 tickets) - text her and bullshit her you've got tickets for free or from your buddy or whatever and ask her if she wants to join you, if she says yes - buy the damned tickets, take her and bang her.

Last thing for nightlife is finding your personal edge - whether it be dressing up / peacocking - meditating before you go out, having shots, doing blow, doing ghb, phenibut, jumping in an ice cold shower, whatever... find out what it is that puts you on point. Experiment with stuff, and learn to get yourself in the zone.

For me a lot of the times when I went to raves or clubs it was just getting right into the the crowd or finding the mosh area and just getting there and dancing and moving around physically. Once my blood was pumping and I was doing something that enthralled me and removed any mental barriers or voices inside telling me what not to do... it was game time.

Key at night is to be fearless and bold - you are out there for a reason and everybody knows that already, so be bold and act like you don't have anything to lose. During the day it's a different skill set of tools. Once you are someone who excels in both environments, then your life truly becomes a playground. I say don't sell one of in lieu of the other. I spent years neglecting night life now I am out there putting work in to improve on where I didn't develop experience.

From my experience night game works best on women you know or women who know you in some sort of extended social circle, but your not close at all. Like they just recognize you as not a total random. Girls are reluctant of strangers at night game, because there are so many variables, and so many hard dicks around hitting on her. If she has some sort of collateral through social circle, the hook up is "safer". Which is why guys recommend being a bartender/bouncer. They see you a few times, think your hot, then it happens one night when they are DTF.

Like this pass Friday I was home for thanksgiving break and ran into some girl in my finance class at a bar, I have never talked to her but we recognized each other. Now she was my third or fourth pick in that class and probably only 6, but she has probably had her eyes on me this whole semester. 10 minutes into talking she whispered in my ear "I want to get in your pants" I was sold. Now I have to see her tomorrow and am not looking forward to it ha.

The Wednesday before that the only girls I really had a chance with was some other girls I knew/seen from class/campus who are attracted to me, since all the other girls are grouped up or with boyfriends. But it Didn't work out with logistics.

Not to say you can't pull random women, I have probably had 3-4 randos. Just gunning it on random women at night takes some number game, and pretty damn good looks/style. Like Chris said Something like 6/100 girls are down to go home. Much easier if there is some sort of established knowledge of eachother.

I have the same issues. However i feel like the girls i see at night are way better looking than the ones i usually come into contact during the day. Its like the good ones come out at night like roaches

Whats the probabilty of you scoring with a chick if you went in a bar by yourself as opposed to going into a bar with friends ?

How long did it take you to get results from doing nightgame?

Shanghai_Bobby wrote: Agree with Termi,

Fucking up your sleep is retarded. Stopped doing night game when I stopped listening to PUAs.

Do you have a strict sleeping schedule?

@Dantermin69
Most of my lays have been from nightgame. I would live on top of the nightclubs in a small apartment. Pulled very often.

Idea was to just spam approach and stay with those that are DTF.

At the end of the day, I don't remember any of those girls. So I completely quit nightgaming.

Right now I am living in Ibiza. Oh the irony!

Dantermin69 wrote: I have the same issues. However i feel like the girls i see at night are way better looking than the ones i usually come into contact during the day. Its like the good ones come out at night like roaches

There not better looking. The 4-8s are who normally go out, they doll themselves up, and your drunk which alcohol stimulates Estrogen in the body and it makes u horny as fuck. Real 9-10s are not at bars and clubs LOL ,unless they are with some dude in a suit who is getting bottle service.

Dantermin69 wrote: How long did it take you to get results from doing night game?

I've been going out consistently 1-2 times a week for about a year. Most lays involve me getting pretty damn drunk=being social=talking to and approaching women=stumble upon a girl who thinks your cute and she is DTF then the night is sealed. U just got to lead and there needs to be good logistics.

Most important is your looks, she has to feel a good sting of attraction. She and her friends already know she is looking to get laid that night, this is prob 1/10 girls, maybe closer to 1/20 girls. Her friends won't cock block, and she'll make it easy for you. She will be touchy, she may even try to kiss you, and you just got to be normal and relaxed and lead the interaction.

Last night(this morn) I was out with 4 of my friends. Big squad. I talked to most of the women, got blown off once, and 2-3 others simple politely signal they were not DTF or found me hot enough,most girls that deny your approach are generally with social circles/guys/boyfriends they simply cannot fuck you due to alot of social pressures/barriers. The best is 1-3 girls alone with little to no connection to others in the bar/city. U will need friends when it's a 2 or 3 girl group, as far as I know.

Approached a girl wearing the "21st" birthday band accross her shoulders. Real cute, solid 8. Sure enough, she was pretty drunk and available(these go hand in hand), we're talking/dancing she goes for a kiss. Says" lets go to another bar" I take her hand and lead her out the bar with her friends and my friends behind me. Friends hop on the less attractive friends, other 2 friends break off. We go the bar sit at a table, drink, make out with her..etc. Now going to her hotel that is literally one block away. Friends and my friends literally sit in the bathroom of the hotel while, her friends distract my friends and I fuck the girl on the king sized bed. They were trying to get us both laid.

Moral of the story

Girl thinks your cute/hot, girl is sexually DTF, decent/good logistics=LAID. No game, I wasn't being funny, she said I was "really cute" to her friend, and she said your so kind/nice.

So look good be normal and sexual. Calling a girl sexy is great, if she likes u she will quickly feel sexually comfortable with u and it makes her feel good to be called that by a guy she digs, if she doesn't like u the interaction will end quickly which is good also.

No funny monkey pua game BS. Masculine/Attractive and sexual guy who can also be extroverted and dance if the enviroment is right.

The Only thing girls want:

Fun Experiences with Attractive/Cool guys. End of story.

Achill3 wrote:

Dantermin69 wrote: I have the same issues. However i feel like the girls i see at night are way better looking than the ones i usually come into contact during the day. Its like the good ones come out at night like roaches

There not better looking. The 4-8s are who normally go out, they doll themselves up, and your drunk which alcohol stimulates Estrogen in the body and it makes u horny as fuck. Real 9-10s are not at bars and clubs LOL ,unless they are with some dude in a suit who is getting bottle service.

You've never been to a good nightclub, go to Ibiza, or Budapest or Paris and tell me they are no real 9-10s.
Hot girls go out like everybody else.

My issue with nightgame; not sure if this is all in my head due to my lack of experience, when i would go out and try to talk to girls my biggest issue was when i see them alone. I would go up and talk to them only for them to say “ sorry my boyfriend is in the bathroom.” More to the point i feel like the ratio of single woman is thrown off because i see couples in a bar. So i dont know how to go about night game because most good looking girls are either with friends or with girls... and i like to go out alone at night.

Is this just in my head? Or should i just keep trying?

How many months did it take you to get a hold of night game?