TOPIC: so would you consider day game much more effective than night?

Agree with Termi,

Fucking up your sleep is retarded. Stopped doing night game when I stopped listening to PUAs.

I had the same question as you earlier this year when I was a virgin. However I actually did lose my virginity in the nightlife and all of the 3 girls Ive fucked since has all come from nightlife. I think nightlife is pretty random and often a waste of time really, the only reason I really do it is because thats how how I usually spend my time with friends.

Day game is probably just as effective but it's less efficient but also less stressful.

Night game is just as effective because you can get the same quality as day game but it's more efficient in my opinion depending on logistics because there are no dates involved. However, I find it to be a lot more stressful especially if you don't enjoy yourself.

If you don't have a car and you don't live with 1-10 minutes from the bar in walking or driving distance then you probably shouldn't even bother cause it's that much harder and not as time efficient.

I personally think that night game shouldn't be discarded, but comes with a lot of baggage.

I got laid only twice using the night game approach.

What I like about night game :

- teaches you to be quick and on point.
Make out early. Plus I have a simple model : chat or dance with girl for 2 minutes, say "let's go outside", say she is cute and kiss her, tell her let's go for some drinks to my place. It took me a while to figure it, but once I did it made things simpler

- More acceptable to be quick and aggressive. You can get away with shit at night, that you wouldn't get with during the day

- All girls in one spot. In clubs, you got multiple girls in one place, whereas in day game, unless you live somewhere busy, you definitely do not have that advantage

- Girls drink and therefore more down to fuck

- Ego boost. Cool to brag about one night stands

- No dates, just go to your place and fuck

What I don't like :

- Shitty music and atmosphere. Unless you like the music the venue plays, it sucks. Also, you can get tired quick

- Wildcard. You can't predict success, even if done right, it's more dumb luck. During day game I get a relatively consistent return (1 number every 4 approaches on average, etc.). With night game I never know

- People are assholes. Girls will give most brutal rejections, guys will want to get into fights, might get kicked out by bouncers

- Can be located uncomfortably. Either it's close to your place or not, this changes the game a lot

- Money on alcohol and food. Sure, you can not drink, but most do, and you will get hungry for a kebab, also entrance fees

- Disrupts sleep. Your sleep and health will be affected

- Tough place to game. Again, unless you figured it out, very brutal place to game or even learn

- Takes a while to get used to the atmosphere. No one is comfortable first time. Takes a while

- One night stands are not always enjoyable

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Overall, the downsides are large, which means it's ok to do it once in a while, but doing it consistently will wear you down. Ironically, you need to do it more often to get good at it. And learning will be hard and tiring.

Honestly, I don't regret doing it, since I had SOME success and hardened myself and learned stuff, but it does wear me down so I just do it on occasion.

There is no universal answer. I think it largely depends on this :

- is the club near your place ?
- do you not hate the atmosphere ?

If both are yes, than it is more worth it.

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The reason it worked for me is that I have been living 2 minutes from a student bar. I haven't pulled from downtown, but I know guys who did. The fact that it's 15 minutes away changes the thing a lot and makes it more harder.

Also, went on date today with girl I fucked recently with night game. Went to her place and stuff, no sex cause she is on period. But it seems she can turn to a fuckbuddy and that is definitely something I might use. So the rewards are not consistent, but it's nice

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I would suggest hitting all possibilities: night, day and online and see which one gives you more return and which you like more. Then decide on your own

It will depend from person to person.

I think that night is just as effective as day, assuming you know what you are doing. But for most people, night is more consuming and day is more enjoyable. Check out and see for yourself.

I definitely prefer day to night, but learned from night game as well and will try it from time to time,

No form of game is mandatory, but having multiple options is good. You can stick to only one if you want or you can do more at once.

The best answer is : try both and see for yourself.

Like I said, get a job working in a club. Then its not a waste of time, you meet people, make money, and get laid.

Promoter is ideal. Bartender is good too.

Going out strictly to approach if you don’t enjoy nightlife is lame, especially if you have other goals in life like having a great physique, working on your business, learning coding, or whatever it is you’re doing.

How would I go about getting my foot through the door?

Manpoolz wrote: How would I go about getting my foot through the door?

go to the club and talk to the owner?

To be honest, I disagree a bit with some statements here.

Sure, nightgame can be hard, sure it can get much more brutal, but if you don't have AA and all that, it's also THE place to find the hottest girls in town.
And it's just like daygame, just gotta play those numbers.
I had the hottest woman in my bed through nightgame (and I mean legit freaking 10).

I also get rejected, a lot.

Concerning the obnoxious bitches, the drunk assholes, the bad music and all that, well it's part of nightlife.
I've learned not to give a fuck about it, it's all part of the game, you know? I've vowed to myself that I wouldn't waste a fucking second thinking about those things anymore, it ruins my mood.
Now I know it's easy for me to say that, I don't go out alone that much (almost never), so I'm always with friends and I always find a way to enjoy the night.

Still, don't diss on nightgame.
It's where the bitches at.

Plisken wrote: To be honest, I disagree a bit with some statements here.

Sure, nightgame can be hard, sure it can get much more brutal, but if you don't have AA and all that, it's also THE place to find the hottest girls in town.
And it's just like daygame, just gotta play those numbers.
I had the hottest woman in my bed through nightgame (and I mean legit freaking 10).

I also get rejected, a lot.

Concerning the obnoxious bitches, the drunk assholes, the bad music and all that, well it's part of nightlife.
I've learned not to give a fuck about it, it's all part of the game, you know? I've vowed to myself that I wouldn't waste a fucking second thinking about those things anymore, it ruins my mood.
Now I know it's easy for me to say that, I don't go out alone that much (almost never), so I'm always with friends and I always find a way to enjoy the night.

Still, don't diss on nightgame.
It's where the bitches at.

Which country / city are you referring to? Come to Auckland for one night, look at our 'talent', then tell me you still like night game

Well if we go by location, the same argument can be used against daygame.
If you go in fucking Alaska or visit the Mormons or somethin' I don't expect you to have a blast doing daygame either.
My night experiences were in Europe, Barcelone, Budapest, Paris, (mainly France to be honest), in "diverse" social places, from the student pub to the upper-class Parisian Club.

Still, same rules apply everywhere (if you respect classic GLL principles).
After all, Chris of all people, had a freaking lot of lays through nightgame.

There's this phrase (or close to it) which has stuck with me "Girls don't shave their pussy, drink and go out, just to see what's going to happen."
Nightgame is about getting attention and getting laid.
Screening gets the attention-whores out.

Nevertheless, I'm quite the social butterfly, so I tend to enjoy nightlife quite a bit, which might have an effect on my point of view on the subject.

Does anyone else find it to be true, I'm curios ?

I mean that night clubs have the hottest women ?

The nightclubs around me have the same average quality as any other place. I think the statement might be true of higher end places.

I meet the highest ratio of hot girls in the gym.

Chris mentioned hottest girls he banged where from clubs, but he got laid as an insider not some random dude and mentioned that clubs are some of the worst places to get laid if you are not part of the "in-crowd".

What are other people's opinion on this ? I have little experience with clubs, so maybe guys here know more.

Do you find the hottest girls in clubs ?

No I don't believe so. Maybe if you get into high-end, very select nightclubs. Or maybe if you are typically attracted by the slutty outfits that girls wear in these environnements (I'm not, but I know some guys are).

For me the hottest girls in Paris are in the streets. I tend to go for girls that are stylishly dressed and have a cute face, are educated and a bit upper-class. I see all of that easily in the streets. If I was more looking for the perfect body type and the perfect butt, I would be looking at the gym.

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Going back to the initial subject, I have no experience in nightgame, but I'll point out the one stuff I don't like in daygame, in the long term : it's a double life. I can't talk about it to anyone. Like at some points, I will go out daygaming every day after work and every afternoon in the weekends. But if someone asks me what I was doing at this time, I can't say "oh I went out picking girls in the street". So I say nothing, or make up something else.
If I just went out doing nightgame three times a week, I could say "Oh I was going out, at [bar/club XXX]", just without mentioning the girls. I would be more knowledgeable about the places to go out, I could invite other people to go out with me and still talk to a few girls, etc. In other words, it would fit in much better with a normal social life.
Or like, I have 2 wings at the moment that I go out with every week to daygame, but not much outside of that. I can't talk of these guys, otherwise I will get asked how we met and what we do together the saturday afternoon, etc. If I we were nightgaming, I could just say they're the friends I go out with.