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Guys, just wanted to update that I went out again last night. I wasn't solo, it was with around 6 friends, mixture of guys and girls.
Now, during the peak of my alcohol courage, I made out with a really pretty Asian girl for about 15 seconds. Not too long after that, I kissed a girl around 10 years older than me (30?) for a few seconds only.
Now my male friends who were with me were congratulating me etc. about being "alpha" etc, and it felt good for a little bit, and then the alcohol started dying down and I slowly started just dancing by myself in the corner of club. I think I'm quite high in the "looks" factor, I dedicated 2 entire years (my first 2 years out of high school) into no lifing gym, clothing, style (but did not get laid at all during these 2 years fuck me lol), I could see girls eyeing me at this club etc., but I didn't make any moves cause I was a little bitch. I ended up club hopping, and at the new club, an Arab girl began grinding on me without me showing any interest etc. But by now, most of the alcohol had worn off, and I felt quite nervous and ended up going to the fucking toilet instead of doing anything (pathetic)..
I think I should be grateful for getting make outs at least - i don't think many guys kiss complete strangers in the club. But the make outs are not because I have my shit together, it's cause of fucking alcohol lol. These nights out are becoming really common for me now, looking fucking awesome in front of my friends who see me kissing girls, and girls going up to me to grind on me, but in the end I'm still catching a cab back home solo, and I'm definitely not fucking anyone.
I'm thinking I might have major hidden anxiety or something.. and AA program should probably be my top priority instead of going to clubs after drinking enough alcohol to mask my anxiety and inner little bitch?
Age: Almost 20
Total Lay count: 5
Cold Approach Lays: 0
No I haven't been.. after over 2 years of not even kissing girls, making out with random girls in the club is extremely aggressive for me. my inner bitch gets channeled - heart rate and self doubt increasing in the seconds before I kiss girls. I'm still getting make outs at least though. Though, I know I'm not anywhere near the killer instinct level that I should be shooting for.
Yeah, I need to do a program - either AA or going out alone.. I think the consensus is commit to one of them at a time?
Age: Almost 20
Total Lay count: 5
Cold Approach Lays: 0
Remember that this is a marathon, not a sprint. Being too hard on yourself will cause you to lose motivation eventually. I think you just probably don't have experience in pulling girls to your bed from bars, and so no wonder you can't do it... right? Me neither. I'm a Tinder guy myself but just getting laid from online doesn't teach you the masculinity needed to get laid instantly.
25 y/o virgin before GLL
I recommend the AA program. It will teach you to be more bold and to go after what you want without feeling illogical guilt, fear, or anxiety.
I'm still only just about half way through, but I already notice a huge decrease in anxiety levels and increase in social freedom. The going out alone program looks great but involves drills that someone lacking social freedom might have a tough time doing (such as waving groups of girls over).
Personally, I feel like I'd only be able to do the barring alone program as it's written after completing the AA program and not vice versa. If you complete the AA program properly, the barring program won't be seen as so much of a challenge as it will be just a systematic series of steps to follow for establishing a blueprint for your nights out that involves interactions that get increasingly bolder.
If you decide to prioritize the AA program, and I highly suggest it, it is time consuming and can be mentally exhausting (due to the continuous exposure therapy and lack of 'rest days') and it requires a lot of drive and balls to make happen, but it will change your life in more ways than just getting girls. Like I said, I'm still working through it but if you have any questions regarding my experience, how I dealt with certain issues as they came up, or want any insight, hit me up.
I've went from being scared someone I ask for the time will see me asking someone else for the time and think I'm weird to singling out girls in groups with plenty of people around and being okay with saying/doing some pretty weird shit. I've got a long way to go still but I can attest that you'll see substantial progress quick if you put your heart into it.
What you're looking for is totally in your grasp. Once you go get it, you'll be a weapon.
Hey man, I'm not an online dating guy but fucking girls the same night from the club is my comfort zone so thought I might chime in here
I don't think you need to do a program, it's not necessary. Taking a drunk chick back home with you is not that difficult.
Just gotta find a girl that already wants you/thinks you're hot, that's where most dudes fuck up, they keep talking to chicks that don't like them.
If you're making out with a chick at the club/bar and you just met her, there's no reason you shouldn't be fucking her. She thinks you're hot enough to make out with.
Keeping doing your thing, keep making out with chicks. Make sure you're grabbing/smacking their ass, rub their crotch, squeeze their tits put her hand on you crotch. You pretty much wanna find out how DTF the girl is before leaving the club. It doesn't have to be physical, the chick could just drop a hint in conversation like "soo, what are you doing after this?, or "soo, where do you live?" She wants to know if you're dtf pretty much lol.
If its getting really heated in the club between you guys like you're fingering her and she's stroking your boner through your pants and shit, dont hesitate to take her to the bathroom(men's bathroom, so you don't get accused of rape) or just somewhere isolated like your car or someshit.
Here's the steps pretty much if it's not clear-
1. Find a chick that thinks you're hot
2. Make out with her (optional)
3. Find out if she's dtf
4. Head back to your place (or wherever)
Ps. Stop doing this shit to impress your friends or it makes you feel super cool or someshit. Do this shit for yourself and because you genuinely want to have sex with girls
CitySleek wrote: r u actually trying to pull the girls as in say "lets go somewhere else to get some food" or "i can make u really good drink" and start walking them out the club?
i didn t read that u actually tried to get girls to actually leave the club with u , next time u go out actively ask every girl that u grind /make out with to bounce out of the club
yeah you're just not closing. you just gotta do the last screening part by pulling her hand away from friends and say something to the effect of let's get out of here. if she resists, i may try once more before doing it to someone else. time it before last call for best results. less perceived as a clear hookup move and friends are less likely to hate on you when the lights are on and people are huddling up for the door. stealth it
hooking up solo is more advanced since you have you get a girl to ditch whoever she is with to be with you. wingmen help in distracting the friends from hating on you. just go for it and if she ain't down the say "SCREENT" and go to the next one
Personally one of the best ways to find out if a girl is DTF is if there's like NO resistance from her. She should be making it very easy for you. She should pretty much being saying yes to everything. Like smacking her ass (playfully, or aggressively don't matter) or while you're making out with her squeeze her throat/choke her a little (Playfully) or calling her a sexy bitch. If she says no to these things or gives you attitude, I immediately stop talking to her and move on.
There shouldn't be any resistance from her friends either, if she's really dtf, shell prolly go back to her friends and tell them "hey I'm gonna hang out with that cute guy tonight" and the friends will be like "ok babe have fun!!" ( her friends are prolly hoes too they do shit every weekend nothing new)
So yeah lol
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