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NoStringsAttached wrote:

Mokele Mbembe wrote: What, again, is so great about fucking in the toilet?

The thrill! That's what everything is about!

hmm. I'm more about pleasure I guess, but even from the perspective of 'thrill' or more likely, ego gratification, I think other semi-public venues would be more palatable. I think club toilets are disgusting.

No.

Knowing that you can get laid if you hit on enough girls is a true sign of an alpha male.

One of two things:

1: You have a self defeatist attitude. No matter what you do, ever, you will never be good enough and you will make up ridiculous excuses as to why you are not an "alpha male" or who you want to be in life

2: You are not pursuing the goals in life that will bring you true happiness. You slept with 30+ women in the last 3 years you said... where they hot girls? where they the kind of women you want to get with? Or where you just carving notches into a belt? If you want to fuck girls in public toilets, I wont hold it against you, but you need to come up with a game plan and take action to fuck lots of girls in public toilets.... if that is what you really want to do that is.

Seriously, just think about the utter absurdity and stupidity of the question you pose.

dmo1mo wrote: Seriously, just think about the utter absurdity and stupidity of the question you pose.

It does seem to imply that if the answer is yes, then alpha males did not exist before the invention of the toilet stall. An interesting hypothesis...

A true alpha male in my opinion when it comes to their sex life aspect specifically = a man who whenever an opportunity presents itself that he wants to close on, will without hesitation jump on it. Regardless if at night time or in the day time. AKA he does what he wants, whenever he wants.

If he was in a grocery store and he saw some girl who was a 10/10 and he wants to bang the shit out of, he wouldn't ignore her because it's not in a club.

dc7 wrote: A true alpha male in my opinion when it comes to their sex life aspect specifically = a man who whenever an opportunity presents itself that he wants to close on, will without hesitation jump on it. Regardless if at night time or in the day time. AKA he does what he wants, whenever he wants.

If he was in a grocery store and he saw some girl who was a 10/10 and he wants to bang the shit out of, he wouldn't ignore her because it's not in a club.

That's everything for me.

There aren't any Alphas (heh) in Britain because clubs employ African men to sit in the toilet all night and sell aftershave.

I will never be an Alpha.





Alpha.

Is fucking girls in club toilets the one only true sign of an Alpha Male?

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Okay, I re-read your post. I'm sorry for calling you Sam.

Here's a thought: Just change the way you do game. Stop doing day game and devote yourself to night game.

I agree with what you have said about day game. I've 2 under an hour fucks and that's it. The rest have taken a instant date or similar to get home.

I also agree and disagree on the standard of women. Women are seriously dolled up at clubs. I have met 8+ girls that were willing to do things with me (if not sleep with me). For a guy like you who has his game tight... Obviously, you have already thought about hitting only on 8+ girls, right? Or doing game outside the clubs (catching them as the transfer venues)? That's really common game here and nets you the girls you are talking about.

It's really a matter of focus. If you put your all into night game then the results WILL come.

On the toilet sex thing, I didn't answer in full. I've made out with girls in bathrooms, but never fucked them. It's such an American thing. Here in Asia there are lines and it's culturally not cool to make out on the dance floor and stuff.

From what I can tell America bars are set up better. Asia has by the hour hotels surrounding the clubs and bars (literally), so it's piss easy to disappear for an hour and have a girl's friends not know what is up.

Chris used to have a place near the bars in Hollywood when he was doing this. Sandshark and his crew have the same set up.

If you are interested in what your friend has then talk to Klbsa. He has the same experience and has said he'll help guys through PM if they want it.

Honestly, I love day game, but I'm not going to lie to you. It's a starting point. No sane Player continues it after a certain point of success. They move to bars and clubs and parties with the occassional day game for kicks or when they see a hot woman. I think a lot of people know this on this forum, but only the newest crowd of guys coming through are applying it. Examples are BIB/Rous/Nostrings. I will eventually do it too when I hit a dozen from day game. No lies. Day game is only a starting point and you might have gotten stuck on it.

Mad Men: "My life is always moving forward. I don't have time to move backwards."

Move forward and sorry for not taking you seriously. I skimmed. My bad.

One last thing: Location is everything. As I said Asia has a different system (a convienent one actually) and so will other areas. The USA is a different kettle of fish and should be thought of as such. Beware of where you take your advice from. Location matters.

Answers I can give:

1. True. Quantity is not quality. Yet, I have girls that are unbelievably hot stop for me often. They are more likely to talk to me than girls who are average. MUCH more likely. Made up 10s (fake 10s) are bitches. Real 10s (naturally gorgeous) are sweet angels. Normal girls are nice. I don't think these real 10s (I mean ones that you can't see through the make up and realize she's just a 8 who knows how to apply foundation) are fucking 100s of dudes. They seem more like normal women. (Note I've approached 1000s of girls and 15% have been in this area. They are definitely nicer to me.)

2. No. You have it wrong. Day game is stage 2. Stage 1 was AA. Stage 2 is Day Game Success. Stage 3 is adding in clubs/bars/parties and reducing day game to when needed. You are standing on the second floor and you don't realize that you were supposed to go to the third floor YEARS ago. Your 1st year should have been the end of the second floor.

3. A very hot guy can do more things. No doubt about it. However, how open are you to going off the reservation? It's obvious, but if you are following a structured plan all the time then you aren't doing yourself any favors. On the third stage of this, you have to give up your safe plan and do it anywhere you can and as fast as you can. Scotty was adment about this. If you could do it in an hour then you could do it in half that time. The key is challenge and willingness to lose some along the way. How do you think he got down to 5 minutes to his car from a club? It was through challenging himself to do it anywhere and by any means and as fast as he could. There were probably a ton of loses, but that was what he did.

4. You are speaking from inexperience in clubs and bars. You are a master of day game. Your experience tops most of our success lists. Yet, you are inexperienced. Face it like a man. If you want to be experienced then take that same work ethic and throw it into the club. You are not below the looks threshold. You have proven that. You are, however, not very good at night game. The results speak for themselves.

How to move forward? Ask your Alpha friend to coach you through a make out. Set small goals. You have done this with day game. Why can't you do the same small advancements that got you good at day game?

Don't look past your inexperience. Grow and continue to do so. You've been lounging in the second floor lobby for FAR TOO LONG. Accept that the building has several more floors that you DO NOT SEE and that you MUST climb higher.

Stop being depressed. Take action.

Also, if you aren't an alpha then you have to build up the hard way. Hard luck, but you can do this. I wish I had a mentor in this who knew the local situation. It makes a massive difference.

And if you are a Sam Troll then fuck you for making me type this much. haha.

I posted another thread asking why there's so little traffic to pickup forums. Now we know why.