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hahahahah i'm not alpha at all, your post made me laugh

I'm one of the unproductive and depressed people on self improvement, my lay count is 3 (prostitutes don't count) and one of the lays was with a barista in the clubs toilets, we just danced all night and went there to have sex..i met her that night

forget the alpha stuff, i was just lucky, she liked me and thats it

someone who has puted his dick into 75 vaginas is sure an alpha

HA! Your assessment of daygame is completely off base. It is by far the most efficient way to get laid after bars.

What's with the social rejects comment? First of all, I've never been a social reject, and I didn't become one just because I started doing daygame. Second, almost all the girls I fuck have lots of friends, are in sororities, are popular at school etc. Honestly, I meet a HUGE range of girls from daygame, since it is truly a random selection of people. I'd take daygame over waiting for a girl in my social circle to become single and choose me. Maybe your experience with daygame has been negative, but mine has been great.

In the beginning, I had to do like 100 approaches to get laid. However, this has been accelerating more and more. I'm getting a fuckton more dates and faster lays now that I have lower bodyfat, better style, and more confidence/experience. And I can sense it is only going to get better. Looks are critically important for daygame. Low bodyfat is an absolute necessity to get efficient results.

As for night time, yeah I'm struggling with that too. I've made out with countless girls at bars, and I've fingered a few on the dance floor. I've slept with 4 girls that I met at bars. One was a one-shot-one-kill bar pull. Another one gave me her number and I called her after last call to rendezvous at her apartment and we fucked in my car. The last 2 gave me their phone numbers and we met up for drinks or they came to my place later that week.

2 of these girls were average or below average, 2 were hot.

I will agree that it is a bit of a struggle, but how many times have you actually TRIED to fuck a girl in the toilet? For ME, the biggest problem is that I can never ever find a bathroom that's empty. Honestly, it'd be fucking easy if there were private toilets everywhere. The biggest obstacle at night is logistics. It can really be a motherfucker. A lot of girls will clearly WANT to fuck you, but they can't leave their friends.

You need to start actually leading girls by the hand to the bathroom if you want to make that happen.

Stop disparaging yourself about daygame. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY GUYS WOULD LOVE TO FUCK THAT CUTE GIRL THEY SAW AT THE COFFEE SHOP? That's like every guys dream. Sure, if you do massive "sarges" all the time (like I do sometimes) then it's a little weird if a girl you know finds out. But, the odds of anyone caring are minimal if you live in a big city. Give yourself some credit, picking up girls during the day is a dream come true for 90% of the male population.

There is research (Google if you want) that only 10% of people has more than 4 sexual partners in last year. So look at it thoroughly: 9 of 10 guys you see in the street can't actually get laid without commitment. You are from USA, aren't you. You guys in USA went completely nuts with this pick-up shit. I live in post-soviet country Russia. Lucky me, almost all my friend have about 10 lays, and my gang wherever we are in town is considered as douchebags.
GUYS LISTEN TO THIS:
There is one public in vk.com where are 60k people and this group was created for people that couldn't approach in life, they....TAKE PHOTO and upload it to that group and write some titles like "please...give me link of that girl....I liked her so much....but I was ashamed to approach her..."
You will hardly understand anything, try to copy-paste it in google translator to get the idea what they posts. I highly recommend to look at these people to guy that are struggling with day game. If you can approach one, two women, it is already not that bad. There people that saw woman for one time, shot her and search her for weeks.
Proof: vk.com/sympathykazan
So what people are you talking about? I see my friends, GLLs, but others are sexless or committed losers. So you have the blessing of friend that gets laid a lot in nightgame. Act on this! Ask him to fucking teach you, don't look at him like he is God, look at things from his perspective, ask him what to do, fuck that is free mentorship! I have not friends that get laid at night so when will come time to hit nights, I am going to do the untouched road like I did it with daygame. You got me. You should learn from your friend, not to be jealous, because it's unproductive.

Bad Idea Bear wrote:
In the beginning, I had to do like 100 approaches to get laid. However, this has been accelerating more and more. I'm getting a fuckton more dates and faster lays now that I have lower bodyfat, better style, and more confidence/experience. And I can sense it is only going to get better. Looks are critically important for daygame. Low bodyfat is an absolute necessity to get efficient results.
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So what a skinnyfat like me should do? I'm fixing skinny fatness at the gym but it will take a year at least i think...

Thrice wrote:

Bad Idea Bear wrote:
In the beginning, I had to do like 100 approaches to get laid. However, this has been accelerating more and more. I'm getting a fuckton more dates and faster lays now that I have lower bodyfat, better style, and more confidence/experience. And I can sense it is only going to get better. Looks are critically important for daygame. Low bodyfat is an absolute necessity to get efficient results.
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So what a skinnyfat like me should do? I'm fixing skinny fatness at the gym but it will take a year at least i think...

If you are skinny fat you aren't going to look like Zyzz in under a year, forget it.

You will however get a body that is very attractive to women.

You guys gotta understand that 6 pack abs are not a requirement to be a player.

I don't have abs, and I get plenty of attention from girls. Ask Sandshark or NSA they both have met me.

If you clean bulk for 1 year all your gains will look something like this, 80% muscle & 20% fat. meaning if you gain 10lbs, 8 lbs will be muscle and 2 lbs will be fat.

This applies to the true novice. You will look leaner because you are hardly putting on bodyfat so the muscle will stretch and disperse your existing bodyfat.

Your arms will look leaner and your chest and legs will grow. You just won't get a 6 pack.

Now if you have been training for 2+ years then your gains wont come this clean. But if you are a n00b then just bulk for your 1st year.

You need to watch your diet like a fucking hawk though, if you fuck off and just eat everything in sight you WILL get fat.

However if you just focus on adding weight and being in a slight caloric surplus. Expect to get attention from girls, guaranteed.

What, again, is so great about fucking in the toilet?

Mokele Mbembe wrote: What, again, is so great about fucking in the toilet?

The thrill! That's what everything is about!

thrice, i would jump on steroids or SARMS and try to put some muscle on with a SUPER clean diet and brutal training program

Bad Idea Bear wrote: thrice, i would jump on steroids or SARMS and try to put some muscle on with a SUPER clean diet and brutal training program

steroids immediately from the beginning? Is it a good protocol? i'm a bit scared of fucking up something, i don't know..

Ya just do your research. The only people who'll try to stop you are experienced lifters who feel it's not fair that you get such an advantage from the beginning.

I'm just about as far from my genetic muscle building potential as you can get, but I'm doing an LGD + MK cycle because I don't give a fuck and I want to gain muscle as quickly as possible.

You banged 70+ girls and you think you are a failure with girls?
Wtf man,haha.
You are crazy.