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The past few weeks I've been out daygaming 1 or 2 / week . The reactions I've been getting were fukn horrible , and its not like one or two bad reactions , multiple bad reactions , I was out yesterday and literally had 4 bad reactions in a row .
I try to stay positive and tell myself its just a numbers game but my mind is fucked up , I cannot picture guys like Chris , DC , BiB , getting bad reactions like these , some of these girls I feel just flat out disrespect me as a Man . I felt very close to calling some of these girls a Bitch , or telling them to go fuck themselves .
Small ginger chick with big ass :
Excuse me , I do my opener ... doesnt even look at me and keeps walking . I joking ask if alot of guys hit on her , why she pissed off , doesnt even look at me for a second and keeps walking
Some 6/10 indian chick : Im doing my open and she was like " Move Im going into the store "
Some chick I opened : gives me a cold stare , doesnt say a word , just stares at me and walks off .
Some 7/10 chick at Shoppers Drug Mart : I was buying a drink , saw her and did my called her ...... she turned around , and stopped me after I said "I know this is a bit random " and told me to stop ,in a bitchy way , said she doesnt have time for this .
I got a bit pissed off because I knew I was hotter then her , and told her she's full of herself and she replied back some shit , whatever .
Some chick at Eaton Center : I went up to her , signaled for her to take head phones out , and did my open " Hey , I know this is random but I ..... " she stops me , and tells me " Please Dont hit on me " in a Bitchy way , and turns her back right at me like I wasnt there .
MILF : I went up and approach , she didnt hear at first so I started to do my open and she fukn RAN AWAY ! ... took like 10 steps running then crossed the street from me and kept looking at me , felt like a total creep .
It really drains me when these are the first reactions I get when I start off , I loose the motivation to do anymore approaches and just end up shopping for hours .
I do a basic opener . - " Hey , I know this is random but I thought you were cute and wanted to introduce myself " .. or ..
" Hey , I know this is random but I thought you were cute and wanted to come say Hi "
Here are a few pics of the outfit that I usually wear ..... I try and go for a edgy cool look , I have some chains , bracelet , ring , big watch , I got some black coated jeans which are amazing , black sleeveless shirt and plaid top , I honestly believe this outfit looks really good .... but let me know what you guys think
Honestly I was getting better results when I was 20 lbs fatter . Im slimmer now , I fit in my clothes better , my belly doesnt stick out anymore
I honestly don't know whats wrong , can you guys please help me out with some advice , I would like to go out tmr and daygame again . One more thing I like to add is , when I go to do my open , I don;t really smile , I just feel it comes off creepy or fake , I just keep a cool neutral face , like Im under control and not nervous like the other guys who approached her , I might seem a bit disinterested when I go up to do my open ....... is this bad ? ..... should I do my open with a big smile ear to ear and be more charming and friendly ??
When I'm walking I have good posture , I carry myself in a confident way , I make eye contact , head up straight ....... are girls just judging me as some player asshole ? is my appearance scaring off some girls ?
It would be awesome to get some advice from the heavy hitters here .... Chris , DC , Hollow , BIB , NoStrings .... I value your opinion guys and will do whatever you guys recommend !!
I'm proud of you. Ya done good losing some weight. BUT, you've still got a ways to go. Those "extreme" negative reactions decrease as A.) you improve your looks, and B.) as you become more comfortable approaching.
Over the NEXT 20-30 pounds you lose you will probably notice a significant change in the way girls treat you on approach. I'll eat my own ass if I'm wrong about that. You know there is a "looks threshhold", but you HAVE NOT crossed it yet due to your musculature/bodyfat level. At some point you will transition into "above average" and there will be a fairly dramatic change in how women perceive you.
When I first started the AA program I went up to this girl in a parking lot and asked her for the time. She literally ran to her car, slammed the door and peeled out of the parking lot like it was The Fast & Furious: Tokyo Drift. MOST of this was because the girl was a psycho, but a small percentage of it was because I was nervous and inexperienced at approaching. It's very rare for me to get reactions like this these days because I've done over 1000 approaches between day and nighttime. I'm very chill when I approach because it legit doesn't intimidate me anymore. When you get used to approaching your vibe changes and girls become way less nervous.
Your string of bad reactions was just randomness. Once in a blue moon you will get several (sometimes very) bad reactions in a row. You've done enough approaches that you probably recognize this on some level. Shit happens. I still encounter very rude/crazy girls from time to time, albeit less frequently. I promise you that ALL the heavy hitters on here have experienced stuff like you described.
To reiterate: as you get better looking and more experienced with approaching you will get bad reactions less and less. However, you will STILL sometimes get random strings of bad reactions. A year or 2 from now when you are getting laid regularly, you won't really care.
Thanks for everything you guys. It's time for me to move on to bigger things!
I have the same issue but I myself don't take it personal. It's just your ego being hurt. I watched one of mike chagares videos awhile ago and he said that he sometimes will go through 100 girls until he finds one who is into him. Chris and all the other heavy hitters keep repeating that this is just a numbers game and I am starting to figure this out for myself. I have those moments myself. I've been told to go away and had a girl totally ignore me well half paying attention to me. I want to say some many things to those girls but I just let it go. You got pretty cool style you just need to keep getting more ripped.
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@Mrluciej...To be honest man...shit happens...its tough but its one bad day and you gotta shake it off...when you first start you'll have bad months...I literally used to have bad months...I've been looked at like I'm the scum of the earth for just telling a random chic she's pretty...it doesn't happen at all anymore really...but everything you go though is all part of a greater refinement process...but you do have to go through some really shitty experiences
Keep working on your physique and your style...but make sure you pursue other shit that makes you happy as well...I've had tonnes of reactions that are way worse than those ones you had today...I just don't remember them because its an anomaly and its not important enough to focus on...you'll get better with conversation and confidence as you continue and you'll be more sexually attractive the more you work on yourself
Im assuming you canadian correct? you said the eaton center. If im not mistaken that area has bad rep of a bunch of rsd faggots running around harassing bitches. So there is probably a bad stigma for cold approaoch there. And girls are extremely off put by it. This is just my thought I dont live there so I dont know what the women are like but I just remember it was a big thing awhile ago about those pua tards fuckin it up for everyone there.
It does get better with time. I hardly ever get a bad reaction. I'm nowadays friendly, polite and nice. I wasn't so much in the past. Girls tend to be nice to me even if they aren't willing to talk to me.
Also, looks help. The better I look then the better the reaction has been. I know this because when I'm dressed messy I get worse responses than when I'm not.
Keep working on the self-improvement side of GLL (looks, style, social freedom, etc.) and keep approaching. These two work hand in hand and help to improve results. If you are approaching then you can have success. If you are improving your foundations and individual areas of need then you are enhancing your chances of success. They are a pair that interacts to achieve a result.
Warrior X wrote: Im assuming you canadian correct? you said the eaton center. If im not mistaken that area has bad rep of a bunch of rsd faggots running around harassing bitches. So there is probably a bad stigma for cold approaoch there. And girls are extremely off put by it. This is just my thought I dont live there so I dont know what the women are like but I just remember it was a big thing awhile ago about those pua tards fuckin it up for everyone there.
It's most likely this. Try somewhere else.
Also go out with another guy or two and get your game critiqued. He can pick up things that you wouldn't be able to notice while "in set". Make sure to return the favor.
I'm not a fan of the shirt, by the way. It's so wrinkled. And the sleeves could be rolled better. You can look up how to do that online.
So I've gone out a few times after making this thread . Fukn finally I got some better results , did not get laid but I approached more girls .
Big booty Italian Chick : This was the first approach and she responded very well , she was super sweet and seemed into me . We chatted for a while , I did alot of screening , I always start of slow with the screening , just light touches here and there and she responded well . She responded well to my touching so I slowly kept pushing it , holding her for longer , bringing her close to me , squeezing , going in for a kiss . Everything was good but when I asked for the # or to hang out , she told me she had a bf , and I kept trying ( believe me ) , I even went for the kiss and she gave me a couple kisses too , I tried to hang out that min but she had to do some exchange at store then go meet up with him , I stayed persistent but if I pushed any further it would of been too much . Good reaction , cool chick
31 year old Doctor in training : This chick actually walked by me , I was deciding if I should or not , so I cross the street and just speed walk behind her , ( I never run anymore because that just creates too much attention ) .. I come close to her and do my open , she responded well , we seemed to mesh well and talked for a bit . I walked her over to her place and I tried to push for a SDL ( I really tried ) ... I started off with my light screening and she was responding well , she seemed to enjoy it . I even went for a kiss few times and she called me a Stranger but still gave a kiss , I had a feeling she was feeling very naughty from just that . I held her , brought her close to me , touched her alot and responded well .
I tried to use one of Hollow's trick by saying I need to get a drink of water , hoping she would invite me to her place , but no go , however she did bring me into her building and lead me to a drinking fountain in the weight room . Her building was fukn amazing and right in the downtown core , shes training to be a doctor and literally had to shower , eat and be at the hospital in 30 mins so nothing happened . She took down my # ... I dont have my hopes up but we'll see what happens .
I had a bunch of other appraoches that didnt really mean anything , good - OK reactions . The worst reaction I got that day was from 2 asian chicks , sexy and in a tight dress . They were looking on phone instagram or some shit , I walk up " excuse me , I know this is random " ...... NOT INTERESTED ... walks off .
Lol , honestly I didn't even feel bad anymore ... zero time wasted , I move on to the next girl . This chick rejected me after 1 second ..... The next chick will have my dick in her mouth .
@Toronto Ya man , hit me up sometime and we'll do daygame / nightgame ,
@Warrior X Eaton Center is the fukn Mecca of PUA .. lmfao . I do my approaches all over the downtown core , I might pop into the eaton center for 10-20 mins , do some approaches then leave . Its a great place but your right , shit ton of pua's running around there .
@Hollow My Man Hollow ! ... Thanks for taking the time to daygame with me and giving me advice , in a weird way it actually feels good to know that heavy hitters like you and bib also get bad reactions . I was soo pissed off but I agree with you guys , it just random shit , I need to approach soo many girls that bad reactions will not phase me anymore . I know once I get the ball rolling and start racking in lays then nothing will stop me . I feel like Im very close to daygame success .
@BIB Thanks man , I agree ... I'll loose 20-30 lbs more then I will KILL IT ... I'll be swimming in pussy once I loose some more weight . 190 lbs right now , I had a few days or cheat day food just to shock my body because I think I hit a plateau , Im back on the diet today .
Thanks for the comments guys . I'm really going to make an effort to not get emotional attached to the reactions . Chris did a good job with his articles and Im going to reread some of them to motivate me . Im going to detach myself from all feelings and emotions and just keep approaching until I get laid . I'm going to daygame this Thursday and Friday ..... Sunday I am off to Europe for the summer .
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