TOPIC: Indian Loser's Approach Log + Lay Reports

2017-01-01

Happy new years Great time to reflect on how far I came in 2016. Hopefully you did the same.

I went out in the afternoon to game some. Got a total 6 approaches down today.

(1) Chinese girl => I try to open her and she blows right past me without even acknowledging me. Damn this was a brutal one to start off the day. The stings rubs off after a few minutes. Need to stop the girl harder next time.

(2) Eastern European Girl => She's sitting down in the underground. I open her with people watching. She's clearly not interested and blows me off. I hang in there a bit and try a little bit of the funny guy act. Didn't really work. I decide to cut my losses and leave.

Two brutal rejections at this point. This is the not so fun part of game. But it's important to remember that one girl may hate and the next one will absolutely love you. I've had instances where 9/10 girls didn't give me the time of day, and the 10th girl was absolutely fell in love.

(3) Hot brunette waiting for street car => i approach this girl waiting for the street car. I am way more expressive after just doing game for 3 days straight. I get her laughing a bit and we chat for a while. The conversation is going pretty good. The street car comes. She says i have to go. I should have jumped on the street car with her. Instead i watched her just leave....Mistake.

(4) Middle-Eastern looking girl => Try to stop this girl but she's not interested. I also didn't know how to stop her properly (her headphones were in so i was afraid to startle her). I need get in their walking path, force them to make eye contact with me, and then go directly in front of her and open. The fear of being too aggressive is deep within me. Society has ingrained in me that I'm a rapist/molestor if i show any intent. Slowly have to deprogram this.

(5) Girl in the subway => I open this chick who's exiting the subway as I'm entering. I hesitate, spin in a circle and go up to her. I open her directly, as usual, she smiles. I keep talking and she eventually says she has to go meet her friends and starts walking away. What I should have done was walk after her but i didn't. Painful but strong lesson i had learn twice this day.

(6) Another girl on the subway => I open this chick on my way to the gym. Blonde hottie with a nose ring. Chicks with excessive amounts of piercings know how to give good head....usually. lol. I open her. She's into it. We chit chat

I ask "what happened to your voice"
She tells me "she lost her voice."
I told her that "i have that effect on people, dw, it's normal".
She starts laughing

As seems to be the trend today, I let her slip through my hands. She tells me she has to go see her sister, who is waiting upstairs. She starts to walk away. I tell her to stop. She actually stops. Looks to see if i'm coming after her. After she notices that I'm not. She keeps walking away.

Lessons:
(1) Push through the wall. There were way too many sets today where the girls were interested and just wanted you to pursue. You chickened out because you were afraid and didn't "want to keep bothering them". Need to change mindset to "girls like being approached".

(2) Girls will forgive you for being a little too aggressive, they won't forgive you for being a pussy

How do you manage to hit with all people watching?

I can do 70% of approaches, but I puss out in 30% in places like subways, buses, crowded places, supermarket cues and stuff like that.

I know it's irrational fear, but it's hard to get over that barrier. I literally get blocked/frozen

Dekk wrote: How do you manage to hit with all people watching?

I can do 70% of approaches, but I puss out in 30% in places like subways, buses, crowded places, supermarket cues and stuff like that.

I know it's irrational fear, but it's hard to get over that barrier. I literally get blocked/frozen

The most effective (and time tested) method is to complete the approach anxiety program - exactly as it is written - all the way through week 8

Dekk wrote: How do you manage to hit with all people watching?

I can do 70% of approaches, but I puss out in 30% in places like subways, buses, crowded places, supermarket cues and stuff like that.

I know it's irrational fear, but it's hard to get over that barrier. I literally get blocked/frozen

Just do it!

Can't comment on what BIB said as I haven't done the approach anxiety program that far in.

I realize that I'm afraid to approach in front of people because (1) I don't want to come across as a creeper and/or, (2) I don't want to be embarrassed in front of people through rejection.

Approaching consistently will lessen the anxiety because you naturally stop caring what people think of what your doing. This is happening to me right now (on the fourth day of approaching every day. I naturally stop caring)

As far as being a creeper - at the end of the day, no one's really going to do anything. If you creep a girl out, just have the social awareness that she's not interested. Just apologize and walk away. No harm, no foul. I've never had anything blow up in my face and I've approached a fair bit.

I would suggest not approaching girls in super crowded place (with 7-8 people watching/hearing you). Just personal experience. The girl usually feels cornered. This is for day game though. Night game I'm sure is a different story.

Yo,

Back at the approaches today. Also bought a pair of slick kicks (finally).

Set 1: Brown girl off of the subway
I open this chick directly. She's not interested but flattered that I opened. I was a little more forceful with this approach. I wanted to see if she would stop so I told her to stop for a few second and talk to me. She said no which showed me she definitely wasn't interested.

Set 2: White chick on Queen St
I open this white chick right outside of the subway. She smiles as soon as I say "excuse me..". As soon as she smiles I think it's on. But once i tell her that "i thought she was attractive", she quickly gets serious and says "no thanks". I was slightly confused. Wtf could she have possibly thought I was stopping her for? haha

Set 3: Dutch Chick with Pink Scarf
I open this dutch chick at the street corner who is wearing a pink scarf. I tell her that it's a nice scarf and it really makes her stand out. I wasn't sure how to approach this set so I just went indirect. I think it was too much of a friendly vibe. She dips out to Starbucks.

Set 4: French chick outside of the subway
I head to subway to go check out a local mall. I open this french chick with silver hair. She's not down and said she had to run to a meeting. All good. I move into the subway.

Set 5: The entire store
Fun story here. I went to go try on some coats. I was so in the zone at this point that I was hitting on several girls working in the store. I could tell they were getting turned on. I was not flinching or second guessing myself at all. Great feeling.

Set 6: German girl sitting down
I open this chick sitting down on a bench at the mall. She's goes fucking insane and starts giggling non-stop after i tell her she's attractive. She loves it but says "she's flying back to Germany to meet her boyfriend in a few days". I jokingly tell her that it's the "perfect amount of time to have an incredible affair". She laughs. Not sure if I should have kept ploughing. I feel she may have been bullshitting about the boyfriend. May have been fun to see where I could have taken that.

Set 7: High School Girl (whoops!)
I accidentally open this blonde chick who's about to graduate high school. It's cool though as I remain super calm and tell her that "i'm sorry if i creeper her out but she's obviously to young for me". She smiles and says "that's okay". This stuff happens once in a while, it's not a big deal if your intentions were good. Just apologize and walk away.

Set 8: Hot brunette
I open this hot brunette that's walking in a store nearby. She's responds well but tells me she is going to go buy some vegan chocolate with her boyfriend. We had a fun quick conversation but she wasn't interested.....I think. Making me wonder if this many women actually have boyfriends.

Lesson:
(1) Get more skillful at opening indirectly. Sometimes the situation doesn't always call for a direct open (e.g. crowded places). I want to be able to open indirectly but still convey the fact that I want to fuck like rabbits.

(2) Sometimes i have an irrational fear that the chick might be a tranny. It stops me from approaching at times when the girl is checking me out. Not sure if i should approach and judge after speaking to her . Random concern but thought i'd throw it up and see what everyone thinks.

(3) Don't wait until a chick has passed you to approach her. Often this means you'll be playing catching up by having to run to catch up with her. I normally avoid this because I'm afraid one of the people around her might know her and want to kick my ass. I don't think will happen and if a boyfriend is there all you have to do is say "do you know if the subway is this way" etc.

(4) Start noticing your unconscious behaviors when you're approaching. For example, when you see a hot chick the first thing you do is pivot your head around to see if anyone is watching. Then you decide if you're going to approach or not. If there is a high risk of embarrassment, you'll avoid it.

Pc,

2017-01-03
Yo,

Got back to the approaching today. Definitely was in my head more today compared with yesterday but I tried my best to push through the emotions and approach.

1) Chick outside of the subway
I open this really tall chick outside of the subway. She was smiling about it but had to jump on the subway. I would have jumped on the subway with her but thought it would have been a little creepy. Not sure what I should have done in hindsight.

2) Older lawyer chick
I open this other lady waiting for the subway. She seems flattered with the approaching but isn't too responsive to the approaching. We chat a little more on the subway before parting ways. Not sure if I could have played this differently at all.

3) Hardcore blowout in the mall
I try to open this hot chick in the mall and she blows right past me and makes a bit of a scene. People around definitely saw it. Hard to go through it but it will my skin thicker so it's all good.

4) Cute chick with braces
The last rejection put me in my head a bit but i finally forced myself to approach another chick. I opened this chick with braces. She wasn't really responsive to the screening but funny enough she told me to "keep doing what I'm doing".


Lesson
(1) I'm expecting to get rejected so I hesitate approaching a lot. Need to become aware more of when I do this and correct it.

(2) Decide if you're going to approach a chick immediately (ask yourself if you would bang her or not, and go approach regardless if she's a 6 or an 8. You waste too much mental energy trying to decide if you should approach.

(3) if you get brutally rejected and get in your head, force yourself to do at least one more approach before giving up. It's natural to feel down on yourself after getting this sort of rejection. But you need to remind yourself that it's just one random girl. The next girl won't nearly be as bad, and may even be your next lay.

back at it tomorrow. PC

Just an update from the last post.

I was surfing the forum and I came across a podcast with Chris and Scottie. They pretty much asked the viewers if "you're sexually available". Do you want to fuck the girl or just get a nice reaction. They are two different things.

Sometimes when I do game, I'm hunting for an ego boost rather than getting laid. It's a different mindset change and something I'll need to focus on starting tomorrow. Stop caring about creeping chicks out and what people think of me. Obviously easier said than done and it won't happen over night, but I need to be more conscious of it moving forward.

2017-01-04

Hit the gym after work today so time was a little scarce. I had to go the grocery store to buy some ketchup so I decided to do an approach while I was in there.

I opened some polish chick named Anna. She wasn't very responsive to the screening. I kept with it and tried to lead around the store to help me find what I was looking for. She waited for me to cash out my items and we walked outside of the store together.

I tried grabbing her number because I wasn't in the situation to go for insta-date, and she wasn't down to go back to my place just yet. I grabbed her number but doubt it will go anywhere. Not going to waste too much time on this girl.

If I finish work on time tomorrow I'll have a little more time to spend on approaching after work.

Pc,

2017-01-07

Yo,
I went out to a local mall to hit up some girls. Did about 5-6 approaches. Noticed that I was a lot more comfortable being more physical and aggressive off the bat.

1) White girl in subway
Direct approach. No physical response to the handshake. Stay in it for a bit and peace out. Nice and fast.

2) Girl next to subway
Direct approach. No physical response to the handshake, but she was slightly intrigued.

3) Thick white chick in the mall
Flattered but not really down. Damn I would have loved to bang this chick.

'4) bombshell 9 in the mall
Direct approach after crazy eye contact. She doesn't half believe me. I stick in there. I couldn't tell if she wasn't interested tbh so i kinda just shot myself in this situation. No physical response to the handshake.

5) Filipino in the grocery store
Direct approach. Has bf, gives me props for the approach....which doesn't really mean much.

Pc

Yo,

Finally made some progress with the approaches yesterday. Did some work during the day and decided to go some day game.

1) Middle Eastern Chick
I approach this girl. Tell her she's cute. She smiles and turns away.

2) Armenian Chick
She was walking towards me with her headphones in. I gesture her to take her headphones out. She takes them out. I tell her she's cute. I shake her hand and she holds on a little bit but pulls away. She's still standing in front of me at this point so she may still be interested. I ask her to come sit down at the Starbucks with me. She tells me that she has a boyfriend but says she liked the way I approached her. Didn't get anything out of this except a nice ego stroke.

3) Chick in the subway.
I approach her directly. She's seems uneasy and uninterested. I ask her to come grab a coffee with me just to see if it works. It doesn't.

4) Austrian Chick
I approach this chick directly. Hold on to her hand a bit. She holds it for a bit. Pulls away. She's still standing in front of me. I talk to her for a bit and I lead her to to a local coffee shop. She's in town for another week. I try to get her to come grab a drink with me then and there but she says she has to buy a gift for her family before she leaves.

Grab her number. Will try to set something up tomorrow or Tuesday. Doubt something will come of it which is unfortunate cause I'm going to Austria in a few months. Would be cool to have a girl there to travel with.

(5) Egyptian Chick at the subway

Approach this chick directly. In front of a lot of fucking people. 0 fear. Focused on going after what I want and letting the rest of the world adjust.

She loves it and is instantly responsive. You know from the get-go that it's on. She just finished grocery shopping. I take her to a local Starbucks. We sit and chat and she's all over me. I decide to move things forward and ask her to come grab a drink. She says no and has to go put her groceries away (I should have invited myself over at this point in retrospect).

I grab her number and we make plans to meet later that night. I said "lets meet a bar" and she instead invites me watch Netflix and chill at her place lol. Never have had this happen before but okay. I go over. This reminds of what Scotty says about "if a girl will go home with you at the end of the night, she'll go home with you at the beginning of the night".

I'm at her place and we watch the movie for 10 minutes. I get a little too into the movie and she eventually spoils the ending. So I turn it off and we start making out. Take things to her bedroom. I'm ass naked but she won't take her panties off . I try and try but she can't get over the fact that we just met. Smart girl.

I chill for a few hours and then peace back to my apartment. We'll see what becomes of this.

2017-09-01

Yo,
Two approaches today after the gym.

1) White chick on subway - Taken but she enjoyed the conversation.
2) Brown chick outside of subway - not down at all.

Lately I've thinking about getting a hair transplant to fix my fucked up hairline. Long story about that, but pretty much my hair used to be tied into a turban (religious headpiece).
I lost a lot of hair because i used to tie the hair really tight before putting the turban on.

It caused me years of insecurity in high school and still tormented me throughout university. I have a huge missing patch of hair right now.

Now that I'm working I can get it fixed but I'm still getting laid without the hair so maybe not.