TOPIC: End of 2015 Help Idan to get laid last stand thread

This year I approached 220+ girls on the street throughout the year. I was in and out of a relationship (finally out) and so far have managed not to get that 2nd lay (and 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th....). All the approaches were indirect and I managed to get 49 real numbers/facebooks. I've met none of them for a date yet. After losing 27 of these to flaking, text buddy nonsense I now have 17 girls who are potentially on the table. Interesting to note that the first 90 girls I got rejected the most by - this was when I was spending up to 12 hours a day approaching. Once I started the 'rule of 2' I got far better results.

My goal is to date, 2nd date (if necessary) and copulate with just ONE of these girls. This is a success enough for me. I have from until tomorrow until the end of the year when I return to my home country for the winter where I certainly won't be approaching:

So here are the prospects (numbered by order of approach):

#95 - Tall, long haired '7' 18 year old whom I has been ultra busy - not agreed to date yet
#102 - '5.5' soso looking brunette - told me she was too busy for a meeting even though she agreed - next year
#105 - '8.5' 18 year old extremely sexy half Italian/half Polish - started strong, whatsapping each other for weeks - told me she was too busy for date however. Thinking about trying one last time...
#120 - '5.5' Extremely short, nerdy but a bit cute - went for a dinner date which was awkward due to the language barrier - messages me every day but so far not tried to kiss her - a date has been agreed on -not arranged yet
#130 - '5.5' Soso looking brunette I approached at the airport bench - very blunt texts but gave me her numbered and agreed to a meetup - to be arranged
#138 - '6.5' very short brunette I met through mutual friends at a club - went for a club night with her - i didn't try to kiss her - agreed to a date with me - to be arranged
#140 - '6' Tall, brunette who gave me lots of long messages - agreed to meet for date
#141 - '7' Tall, hot brunette who had broken with her ex when I approached - agreed to date finally but takes ages to respond to messages
#145 - '6.5' very tall, fit outdoor sports girl who took her sweet time replying - said she is too busy to meet this year
#147 - '6.5' Cute, little brunette who is friendly but has gone back to her family for xmas sadly
#156 - '6.5' Tall, curly brunette - messaged back and forth, complimented her as a prelude for asking for a date - no reply yet
#157 - '6' Blonde who had just broken up with her bf when we met - agreed to date - to be arranged
#162 - '6.5' Cute brunette Ukrainian whom I approached after coming back from a terrible night at the clubs - takes fucking ages to respond - going to ask her out soon
#164 - '7' Cute brunette. Witnessed by SSK7. Was friendly in person but gives short, curt answers - not yet asked her out
#165 - '6' Brunette with a sexy demeanor - also witnessed by SSK7 - not responding to any of my fb messages - I will keep trying
#167 '5.5' Brunette whom I approached at the subway - lives in a town 3 hours away - trying to get her to visit my city...
#1 (social circle) '8.5' Brunette Ukrainian - by far the hottest girl whom I met through these mutual friends at an expat event. I added her on facebook 2 weeks later and asked her out right away - she agreed. Actually really nervous because she is so hot - date to be arranged

So there you have it! The fruits of my labour of approaching this year - not many to be sure. But having not long split from my girlfriend my goal for the next 2 weeks is to put my penis into the vagina of at least one of these 14 girls. Just one. I will update my progress in real time... Any help and advice along the way would be much appreciated...

I have a basic game plan:
Step 1: Approach COMPLETED
Step 2: Verified contact COMPLETED
Step 3: 1st date
Step 4: Kiss
Step 5: Copulation

One concern I have right off the bat is that for all these girls you have them listed as "agreed to a date" but you don't actually have a date scheduled. I don't understand this. If they have agreed to meet you at X location at X time, THATS a date. But what exactly are you saying to these girls? I hope you aren't asking them if they're willing to go on a date with you, because that's not the way to go about it.

220 girls is nothing.

Anybody on this forum that is experienced would have gotten only 2-3 lays out of this. And you are a rookie.

Do you do online btw ? Daygame can be very exhausting and shitty for no reason, while you could easily do online from home.

Even online you have to play the numbers game. I managed to get 6 lays from tinder in december. Do you think I only talked to 50 girls ? No ! I have 480 matches and fucked 6 of them. 1 lay out of 80 matches.

@Bad idea bear:
I've been on a ship away from all civilisation for the last 4 weeks- finally getting home tomorrow- will need to recover from night shift during the weekend. So far I have #140 for Sunday night, #1 the 8.5 Ukrainian on Monday, #157 the blonde girl Tuesday, Hopefully I'll manage to get a girl for each night of the week. It's a constant work in progress

@Leopard:
Yes day game is EXCRUCIATINGLY draining for me especially as an introvert with low serotonin levels. I remember the days in April where I approached for up to 12 hours a day and they almost killed me- I completely burned out. I was also having the same bad experiences with night life I've always had concurrently. In the end I decided a more sustainable approach would be to have a 'rule of 2' which means that every single day I approach as many girls as it takes to get 2 numbers (ranging from 2-10 daily attempts) fitted into my daily schedule - gym, shopping etc. In theory that would give me 365 numbers in a year. I work on a ship 183 days a year so if wanted to bang a girl each month this should definitely provide enough odds to make this possible. I have very limited energy for day game but I find it is the only way that works for me for getting girls numbers at least.

Online is a complete disaster. I paid for the pro versions of tinder and Badoo and despite using the best pictures I can find (even with the recommendation of total pros like SsK7) I get virtually no matches or responses at all. No where near enough to make the numbers game work. What is your routine for online? 5 messages to get her number sort of thing?

You really get no matches ?

My routine is that I just like every girl I am attracted to and wait for them to start the convo (1 out of 6). Then I wait for her to give me her availability (she says "we should meet", "if you want to meet, tell me", etc.) and I set the date at my place (1 convo out of 15). I fuck 90% of the girls that come to my place.

Do you live in a city with enough people ? I am currently in a city of 10 million. I have found it is hard playing the numbers game under 1 million.

you need to be way more agressive buddy

today you need to call up EVERY SINGLE GIRL, plan a date with them, pick them up at a station/busstop/place near you, go STRAIGHT back to your place and go for the kill on the 1st date

your attitude is not that of a killer - I hardly ever go on a 2nd date, I either close on the 1st or move on

Leopard can you go into greater detail with your tinder method? Like what exactly one of your tinder conversations looks like with these girls

Simple.

The girl starts the convo.

I let her lead the convo and ask me whatever she wants. If she drops the convo, I drop it too.

I wait until she gives a clear sign of her availability. Like after asking me a lot of questions about me she says "if you want to meet someday, just tell me ".

At this point I say she can go to my place whenever she is free. If she says something negative about meeting at my place I drop the convo. If she is game to come here, we decide the day of the meeting.

Wow is all I can say You live in Belgium right? Girls are quite forward over there? Here in Poland it is not the case. Yesterday I swiped maybe 150 girls on tinder and got 5 matches. I opened each of them "Hi you are pretty cute, what are you up to?" I don't know why I chose that opener - a member on this forum recommended it and anyway i've experimented with dozens of openers. 3 of those 5 unmatched from me. The odds of a girl starting a conversation with me seem like 1/20000.

I can hazard a guess as to why I have so fewer matches compared to even last year. My hairline receded so badly I had no choice but to shave it off. It seems it is now impossible for me to be any more than a 6. To get tons of matches on online you need to be at least a 7.

Well in January i am going to try one last time to be good looking. I've got the body and now a thoroughly unwanted shaved head, soon to be tanned skin. So i'm going to pay a professional stylist to help calibrate my wardrobe. I can't go back to square one take contrasting advice from many (well-meaning of course) members and keep taking 2 steps forward, 1.5 back.

Well well update time.

#164 was giving one word replies and when I sent a message saying 'wine or beer?' she said she can't drink yet and that she was 17. i deleted her number after she continued giving 1 word answers.

Today's date with #140 flaked - said she had a cold. Tomorrow's date with the 8.5 Ukrainian still on. Wed and Thurs dates still on though I am expecting at least one to flake.

Leopard makes a good point. 220 girls ain't shit for a beginner, especially considering that's how many you did in 2015. You remind me of myself when I was just starting (2013 - mid 2014). I expected to get all this pussy from barely any approaches. I was probably approaching 2 girls a week and I was expecting to get insane pussy from that. For about a 8 months after that, I fucking hustled at approaching man. I was approaching 150-200 girls per month for about 5 months.

I approached 294 girls in July of this year, more than your entire year combined. Ironically, I only got 1 lay from those approaches haha.

Like most beginners, you're frustrated because you're not seeing insane results from a little bit of work in the beginning. Although, I would expect at least 2-3 dates from 220 girls (for a beginner).

Also, I second what The Zuberi said about being more aggressive. You need to schedule dates with girls, and not just say "Are you down to hang out sometime?". You have to be like, "how about tomorrow at 7:00 at starbucks. Sound good?". Then take her back to your place.

Also, post pictures of what you look like and post the pictures you use for Tinder.

Tinder is lame by the way. It's only amazing to use when you're pictures are TOP NOTCH, or when you're outside you're home country and all the girls are fresh on your radar, or when you live in a massive city (over 2 million)

Hi Rousseau! Good to hear from you mate.

Honestly, working out how to play this game has been like playing tennis with a brick wall. How do you managed to approach 300 girls in a month?

I mean don't get me wrong, I have done the whole 12 hours a day approaching until you drop from exhaustion thing back in April. But it completely wiped me out. It was as if girls could sense I had no life and all I did was troll the streets all day. I would end up feeling completely burned out. Sadly kratom or other pro-social drugs are not legal here. I can only use phenibut once a week. So how do you do it personally? What does your daily schedule look like? You work 8 hours, go to the gym for an hour and then approach or what? I got criticized quite a lot for posting a thread asking how I should split my day to be as productive as possible and make the approaching as effective and efficient as possible. You clearly are getting major results from this even if you are having to approach a lot to do so, so I am very curious. And I guess you are using direct approaches right? Basic guy game and so on? I guess you get blown out more often outright but get flaked on less because the girls who say yes are dtf? I definitely get the point about approaching more - for sure. But it needs to fit a lifestyle that is sustainable somehow.

Yeah tinder sucks donkey ball asshole juice soda. Ok so here are my pics.

s932.photobucket.com/user/IdanXXX/librar...20pics?sort=3&page=1

I usually use 3 of these: especially these:

Yeah, I've followed Zuberi's advice (thanks Zuberi!!!). I have no idea how tonight's date with the 8.5 Ukrainian will go - I've not had a date in over a year now - no idea what to do but I am not attaching much weight to the outcome. All I know is I need to escalate as much as I can somehow. If she doesn't flake of course.

#4, #6, and #7 look to be the best pics to use for online dating. Not the tank top with headphones one.

Also, its hard to tell how your style is because you dont have full body pics.

Try and get a picture where you're with your friends so you look like you have a social life.

In july, I had recently quit my job so all I was doing was going to summer school so I had a lot of free time. July was an exceptional month though.

When I was working fulltime and going to school, I still managed to approach 150-200 girls per month.

Nowadays I approach 100 girls per month and expect 1-2 lays from that.

This is what my routine looked like:

1: Wake up at 6:00am and get ready for work.
Take public transit to work.

2: Work until 4:00pm.

3: I had a change of clothes at my work, and I showered at work and changed into them so I looked and smelled good when I went to the mall. I took the bus from work right to the mall.

4: At 4:30 I would be at the mall at its busiest time.

5: from 4:30 until 5:30 I would approach from 3-10 girls.

6: At 5:30 I take the bus to the gym.

7: im at the gym at 6:25, and I approach 1-2 girls on the bus on my way to the gym, and I approach 1-2 girls at the gym

I have a locker in the gym and clothes there to save a lot of time.

8: its 8:00 and im leaving the gym.

I stop at the grocery store and grab groceries, and maybe hit on 1-2 women there.

9:00 im at home, and Im ready to 1) relax, 2) read, 3) log my progress that day or 4) homework.

It might feel like there isnt time to do approaches, but the reality is that we all have plenty of time, and we just waste it. Time management is crucial.

I use direct, and ya, in your first year of approaching more is better.

Consistency is the key. Approach 3-5 women a day.