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When I take phenibut I only get very positive reactions from everyone. Depends on the person and dosage, I'd say. Too much could make you come across as "high" or "strange", I agree.
definitely. and also the situational context should be huge. if you're having fun with friends in a very warm, social environment, the effect might be very different than when you're creeping alone through malls and libraries. (but now I'm starting to extrapolate from my actual experiences, so I better stfu)
it sounds like you keep touching girls even after you get yellow/red flags. That's when you arrive into the creep zone. My advice is when you get yellow flags (the girl is unresponsive to your touch), move on to the next girl.
Again, put things in order of importance people. What's the use of being super aggressive if you're sitting in jail? If the girl doesn't like it, stop fucking touching her and move on. Common sense. You really ought to be able to learn to read the reactions after a while.
I don't claim to know anything about cold approach because my experience with that has been limited (but I approached thousands of chicks during the AA program).
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stop being passive aggressive, you've had experienced guys commenting on your situation, not agreeing with you doesn't mean they don't know what they're talking about.
I've never used aggressive stuff during the daytime since it didn't seem necessary but just approaching a girl normally has never yielded reactions like you experienced. That seems to be the case with everyone who commented here. Clearly, you're coming off to strong.
I also don't have experience with Phenibut but if it makes you forget normal social conventions, maybe try going without it? Having more balls than most people and being able to strike up a conversation and touch the girls if she responds well is a good thing but being able to fearlessly be weird and creepy is not.
This is a pretty interesting topic, for some time I wondered: What happens when some day an insecure 19 year old kid sits at the police station with his dog tags and his dick bruised from non smart PE, all sorts of supps and compounds in his blood, crying and dealing with his harassment charges, saying: I was just following this website?
an analogy: if someone with very little driving experience gets the keys to a race car--parked on an ordinary city street--and misinterprets the advice "go fast!", he'll crash; now, if someone with very little pickup experience gets superhuman confidence (phenibut)--during the day in ordinary locations--and misinterprets the advice "screen aggressively!", ...
I've never taken phenibut but it sounds similar to kratom. And it's already become clear in past posts that you have a problem with aggression. My money is on that. I'm also sure the piss poor attitude you're exemplifying here whenever you aren't told what you want to hear certainly doesn't help... and as i told you in the past, holding blatantly sexist beliefs will only make this stuff harder for you.
If you're getting banned from multiple places, something you're doing needs to change. It's not the "feminazis" or whatever the fuck. Find a way to record the audio and/or video of your interactions. If that's not doable, then make a video log so guys here can get to know your personality better. That is the #1 most effective thing you can do right now.
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This is a weird topic; has the op ever heard of calibration? You don't just go up and manhandle girls exactly, you touch incidentally (handshake, how are you? hold hand etc.) and then if you can tell the girl is interested or rather, not weirded out completely then you go up the escalation ladder. I mean I know its PUA-type stuff but that's really all this GLL stuff is, talk to alot of girls -> see which are interested -> follow escalation ladder to sex aggressively.
For the op I would suggest starting off with more semi-platonic touching (like touching in a way that isn't immediately obviously sexual) to test a girls vibe before going in whole hog. That's what I usually do and I've never had a girl flip on me for touching them. I've had girls tell me they don't like it when I'm so flirty in public places but that's about the worst I've gotten. Also I wanna also suggest you maybe slow down on phenibut; maybe try approaching dry? It may be harder for you but I'm willing to bet your senses of what is or isn't rapey will be better.
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Phenibut God wrote: Tyson, thanks for telling me to give up. I appreciate your veiled advice to give up so that you can be comfortable knowing someone working hard will fail and not be competition for you in the future.
minus Chris, the advice in this thread is: stop touching girls.
that's great. naturally , I will be doing the OPPOSITE. thanks Chris for your real advice. the rest of you, sorry to make you cry when I get laid and you don't.
He also said screening is not for everyone. And we are all pretty positive that you fall into that category. if you are having the police called on you not once, but multiple times, you need to really consider what you are doing.
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Hello Mr. Phenibut God -- I think I ma have some decent advice for you
Last year I was being way too pushy/aggressive with girls because I thought "you have to screen aggressively"... but I had no swag factor or killer instinct and now sense of entitlement or experience with hot women so my aggressive game plan was scaring away a lot of girls that probably would have fucked me (looking back on it)
So I started using something I now call "nice guy game" which is basically "nervous guy game" (just my own version of it.... and I started being super polite to women and just trying to act like the man of their dreams instead of the man they want to fuck that night... Sure I had to go on 3 plus dates before I got laid but that was perfect for me back then because I was just way too nervous to get physical with a hot girl right off the bat... Shortly thereafter I eventually landed a hot girl into my bed after 3 dates and retained her for 8 months... That really changed everything for me
Slowly I started developing legit confidence and eventually decided to integrate and (small) amount of touching into my interactions... Every month I became more and more comfortable with hot girls
I suggest you walk up to girls and just think to yourself... "Im am the most polite person on earth and everybody loves me... but I am also masculine and sexy so girls probably want to marry me because Im such a rare combination" and then 1. introduce yourself politely 2. compliment the girl 3. small talk/questions for at least 1 minute 4. ask for number 5. call her that evening or the next day 6. make a date (notice... no touching besides a polite handshake [for now])
If you like to use role models I have the perfect one for this... The guy from Boyz In Tha Hood who grows up to be a star high school football player... He's the perfect example of a handsome masculine man who is extremely polite who girls would want to marry... Act like that when you are approaching girls and they will have no choice but to be nice to you
And even though you might not like being such a "nice guy"... Eventually you will get laid no matter how "nice" you are... If you can look good and talk to lots of girls (without getting arrested)
Ad its just temporary... Once you get a few lays from nice guy game/nervous guy game, you will have the confidence to start touching girls more socially appropriate
"I realized, however, that the way I talked and acted came off as completely psychopathic. having absolutely no fear means you're no human any longer. and then they're gonna lock you away from society, and rightly so."
you have no idea what the FUCK youre talking about.
people LIKE uninhibition. they LIKE sociopaths.
never have i EVER had a less-than-exemplary experience on phenibut. people gravitate toward you like you are a god. that's why i named my site-- Phenibut God.
sounds like FUD on your end to me.
"At least you've got boldness on your side. Most people don't have the balls to do anything that would get them banned from a store. You'll just have to use it to your advantage."
youre fuckin right bro. plus you have 26 lays, you sound legit to me. that is exactly my experience.
you are correct, i have not had a problem with touching girls in years. its just my fear.
fuck--i have a massive ego. i have a burning need to correct you. readng your post it sounds like youre giving advice to virgins. im experienced, im well beyond the point you speak of. that said, anybody reading this Hunk's advice is good. that's not really the way i did it--everybody finds their own path of course.
but if you wanna start off nice polite guy and "work your way up" thats definitely an option.
my problem is i just still have lingering fears of cops. not even the girls themselves! just cops. not surprising to me others dont share this fear. ive always had bigger balls than the average internet virgin
That said-- to all the internet virgins in this thread:
you have to have balls to get what you want, Scotty gropes girls in full daylight. hes not in jail.
y'all can shit on me all you want, i see right through it.
it's stuff like this:
"He also said screening is not for everyone."
right. as in screening is not for ugly/losers who are doomed to play video games at home instead of fuck pussy. but im not a loser and i do not aspire to be one, so "screening" is definitely "for me."
i regret making this thread, i feel a lot better from some of the responses but these fears get in your head when you stop using judgment and get lost in dogma or bad past experiences. to be honest listening to some of the guys in this thread bashing me for "aggression" is probably worse for my game lol.
also i am convinced 90% of the people on this forum do not get laid. aggression is attractive to women. they like jerks.
sorry nice guys.
/not posting or looking at this thread ever again, dont want it to affect me. but phenibut has NEVER caused a negative reaction from people. quite the opposite. its like cheating. i recommend it to y'all.
and finally to the people in this thread with no positive value to add who just want to hope i somehow end up in jail to excuse themselves from having to better themselves (not talking to hunk gll or beast here),
i have something to say to you
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