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M.C. Solaar wrote: Though having "status" will universally work in everyone's favor, I think it's more important for black guys. A latino or an Asian guy without status will tend to do better than black guys. Just my Opinion and some things I've observed since I'm black.
completely unrelated but I don't really feel like asian or indian men have it that tough, was going to make a thread about this but I saw this race thread up and decided not to post it. The ones that do awful have some obvious issues (fat, short, extremely ugly, very nerdy, very awkward, etc.). I bet these are the same guys that complain about their race online. As a whole those races might be less desirable but almost every single asian or indian I have known that was somewhat jacked had success with going interracial (with white girls and particularly latinas).
I am starting to see a lot more asian men with white women these days, not as common with indian men but I have known some that attracted strong interests from white girls.
Being a light-brown-skin guy (far from lightskin but not extremely black) I have experience EXACTLY what some of the guys are describing here(M.C Scholar and Fernando)
Growing up in the South(South Carolina to be exact) it was a big thing for white girls to date black guys. In the South this was FORBIDDEN for years and years. Due to the media and todays access to information, southern white girls are opening their eyes to this and venturing out. Consequently, they are simply venturing because it is a taboo. Their parents wont like it, and they know southern society does not accept it.
As time go on, people naturally want to venture into unknown territories(ESPECIALLY if it is forbidden). However, the guys who did bang some of these girls were typically athletes(Ripped, athletic, well-known, etc). Keep in mind this is high school i am speaking of but the same principle applies.
Now, fast-forwarded to today. I now liv in the Northeast(Maryland) and go to the Flagship school of the state.
When i first started to learn "game* i was too naive to understand the dynamics of things. All i knew was i would approach any and everything, while race never came to mind.
I eventually realized that race plays a factor whether people want to realize it or not.
There is a big misconception around "Black guys do well with women". Yes(Some of us) do, do very well with women. However, this is very niche based for us. For example, if i go to a bar here in my college town(or a house party) out of lets say 75 girls there(White girls) only 5 of those girls are willing to actually fuck or date a black guy.
Sure this is not a concrete example, because a lot of factors play in. For example, Location, status, etc.
Typically, Black guys with STATUS do well with white women. Sure, i'd ave banged a few white girls this semester but it was VERY niche based. And beyond sex, i don't even associate or talk to most of these girls any longer. However, I have met some new ones and have them in the works.
The football players tend to do well. And EVEN THEY(Except the guys NFL bound and everyone on campus knows it) don't bang THAT many white chicks. It is still "niche" base for them too.
All in all, we can analyze all day. At the end of the day, I always shoot my shot. Regardless of race, color, age etc. If i am attracted and the opportunity presents itself, I shoot. Simple as that.
As GLL says, status is important for black men because it goes against the "status-quo" for us. For example, over half of the men in jail are black men. The media does not help this cause either for example, the whole thing with Eric Gardner, and the fergeson issues. Even a lot of the black girls here are more inclined to a white, latino, or asian guy. I've seen it countless time.
Bottom line is, This is just the way it is.
When you have status OR Have something going for yourself, this speaks out. and EVEN THEN it is still niched base and basically numbers.
White men especially are thought to be "Superior" due to the early days of our country. So this still comes into play even today.
As time goes in, we will see the bonds of this old mentality start to loosen and eventually break.
I will say, this is not an excuse not to step up and always shoot your shot(AKA step to a girl you like).
I am at the point now where i can point out girls who date black guys and girls who don't. Its just how it is. Often times, i will still approach these women given the right situation and opportunity. Just to shoot and see what happens.
All in all, just know that for black guys, you may simply just no be able to get some of the women a white, asian, or latino, guy would simply because of this reason. So in the end they will have a bigger pool to pick from.
Its not races, and its not the girls being "bitches" its just a matter of nurture vs. nature.
SupaDorkLooza wrote: During my time in the Army I learned why Black guys did well with women.
1. They start way earlier. The age they first had sex was from 13 to as low as 6 years old.
2. They have Don't Give A Fuck attitudes because they understand that it's all just a game. (outcome independent) They really don't care if they get rejected.
3. Many Blacks I've met are able to intuitively read people. There was a German anthropologist whose name I can't remember, who spent his entire career in Africa. He wrote that "Blacks are natural psychologists".
4. They have Savoir faire and what I think is called 'High Verbal Acuity'. An example of this is how American Blacks always seem to find a cool way of saying something, rarely are they unable to come up with a response. Their culture trains this at an early age where they trade creative insults, they call it 'Jone - In'.
Also compare the response to "Great job on the last work detail"
Typical White/Asian "Oh yeah, uh thanks man"
Black "Shieeet, ain't nuthin to it but to do it"
5. They do not believe that women are their equals. "Don't put the pussy on a pedestal"
6. Positive mental attitude even in bad situations. They didn't complain about things but if they did, it was in the form a funny joke or humorous observation.
They also tend to be taller, naturally muscular but these didn't seem to matter as much as the other things I listed. Two Black guys I knew who killed it the most were under 5'7" and skinny. There were Black dudes who didn't have traits 2,3,4 and 6, these men were not successful with women.
It's don't think most of these things are true. I mean number 6, come on. Black people tend to be more positive? Not at all. If anything they tend to have more of a negative, "I'm a victim attitude." A ton of them put the pussy on the pedestal and let their women walk all over them. High verbal acuity? Are you joking? No way that's higher than the average white guy. Definitely start having sex earlier though in general (I think this goes for hispanics too).
In my experience it seems like there are a ton of feminine black guys, even more than other races. However, the top black guys tend to be more "alpha" than any other race. In general they definitely have a better build, but they are shorter than white people by a few inches on average. It seems some girls (thought not nearly as much as it seems) want to fuck a really alpha black guy for one night stands (without their friends knowing in many cases) but dating a girl is much harder for black men. However, this advantage is destroyed if you're more of a "white" black man.
Not saying it's right. It pisses me off that awesome black guys (that prefer relationships) often seem to have a tough time. I can almost guarantee girls would be all over some black guys I know if they were white
I still stand by my statement that it's harder to get girls as a black man. Honestly a lot of girls are immediately turned off by black guys, even a lot of black girls. Multuple girls have told me this (when they're alone with me usually). Of course, I'm in the south so I'm sure things are different in say NYC.
Can't wait until someone gets mad at me like the last time I had the "audacity" to say being black can be a weakness in getting girls, especially if you don't fit the stereotype of a "forbidden fruit" type black man. Meanwhile the main reason I say this is my above average 6 foot friend who has the confidence to approach tons of girls (at least in nightlife) found it incredibly hard to get laid. Saw this repeated with other above average black people I partied with.
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